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  • Why doesn't Sonar have an iPad or Android app? (p.6)
2016/03/13 13:24:07
vintagevibe
Thatsastrat
For remote control of Sonar I have been using Team Viewer on a Fire HD6. The program running on the main daw is duplicated on the hd fire. You are forced to use the mouse cursor on the HD Fire, but I can control anything I can control on the main daw with the Fire HD. You get no sound from the Fire HD, but what ever can be controlled in the daw can be controlled by the Fire, which with Team Viewer the daw is acting like a server to the  Fire HD, and it works great. I learned about this here.


That's absolutely brilliant!
2016/03/14 00:22:50
Anderton
vintagevibe
That's absolutely brilliant!

 
Agree 100%!! Check out my experience in the other thread that's dedicated to Teamviewer. There are still some things I need to figure out regarding using dual monitors with an extended desktop - I'm not sure it likes that - but when used as intended, it's pretty impressive.
2016/03/14 06:59:09
Wood67
mdages
A nice idea would be some voice controlled commands for Sonar, maybe a little bit Siri to Sonar?

 
VoiceAttack will give you all that and more for very little outlay, but it's still a bit gimmicky at the end of the day.  I think the point here is that 'options' should be the key - everyone works in a different way and if Sonar provides flexibility to accommodate that then it should.
 
On my setup I have 3 screens, an X-Touch controller, and an additional wireless mini-keyboard that sits on my main midi controller keyboard to save me twisting at 90 degrees to change patches or transport.  I don't really need an app in addition, but it could be useful for some.  Spectrasonics have a great app that sits alongside Omnisphere to give control over the multi's as well as the Orb.
 
I'd like to see the obvious transport controls in a Sonar app, but also something more innovative such as sliders for eq, panning, ACT for synth filters etc.  That would be great for automation writing.
 
I also predict that before the year is out people are going to be asking for Rift and Vive support.  Anyone fancy something like 'Fract OSC' as a genuine DAW?
 
2016/03/14 08:30:11
Vastman
SEE This Thread:  http://forum.cakewalk.com/Anyone-using-Lemur-to-control-Sonar-SOLVED-WORKING-PERFECTLY-m3385011.aspx
 
The Lemur template seems to be amazing and works for both ipad and android
 
2016/03/14 13:59:59
GaryMedia
Now that Humatic has updated their (ugly) TouchDAW product to include a better GUI (they call is pseudo hardware) I am now much more willing to use it. It's shallow, perhaps, but we've been spoiled by great GUI's, and it's one of the things that I find depressing about using Logic Pro X; and I cheer up when I'm back in SONAR.
 
TouchDAW runs well on my 2011 vintage 10-inch Toshiba Android tablet that connects through WiFi to SONAR.  So far, it seems the time display when stopped is 200ms off from the Windows/SONAR displayed time, but other than that, the responsiveness seems good with the new (beta) mnet driver.  I haven't yet tested long enough to make any observations about stability. 
 
All of this remote stuff (I also use the X32 app called Mixing Station) is leading me to buy a 13.3-inch Android tablet to fully take advantage of the workflow options this offers.  
 
My parochial view of the top two things the Bakers should make is as follows:
  • Dedicated Android and iPad remote apps that do a large fraction of what TouchDAW does, but offering a high quality integration of ProChannel remote control along with convenient use of FX Chain VST's within the ProChannel.
  • A Virtual Mix Engine that takes over two or more cores like a hypervisor, to run VST's and ultimately super low-latency (sub-millisecond) ASIO devices.  Take a cue from what Pyramix does.
2016/03/14 15:10:18
azslow3
GaryMedia
My parochial view of the top two things the Bakers should make is as follows:
  • Dedicated Android and iPad remote apps that do a large fraction of what TouchDAW does, but offering a high quality integration of ProChannel remote control along with convenient use of FX Chain VST's within the ProChannel.

The last sentence is a feature request since long time
 

  • A Virtual Mix Engine that takes over two or more cores like a hypervisor, to run VST's and ultimately super low-latency (sub-millisecond) ASIO devices.  Take a cue from what Pyramix does.

A&H Qu24 has 1.2ms XLR to XLR documented latency.
 
MassCore: "1.33ms Latency from Live in to Live out", no "issue with investing in DSP cards". Ovation MassCore requires "nothing more than a 2U rack-mounted chassis". I do not know what people should think about it after reading the advertisement 
 
I have not tested last 10 years, but 1.3 GHz Celeron on specialized board could do ~0.05ms accurate processing in hypervisor. But without external devices and directly written <100 CPU commands "processor". Any "bad" (from latency perspective) device on the board could "ruin" that number by a factor of 10. While rather old information, do not forget that synchronization rates are bound to physical laws (compare "CL" values for DDR2-DDR5 to get an idea). I still believe that while modern PC outperform any DSP in operations per second, in guarantied operations per ms PC with its throughput primary target is not getting closer to hardware RT solutions.
2016/03/14 16:03:19
John
Lets not forget a windows app for remote control of Sonar.
2016/03/14 18:40:59
Paul P
John
Lets not forget a windows app for remote control of Sonar.



Don't most tablets offer a remote desktop connection to a pc ?
I'm pretty sure my wife's Samsung Tab S2 has one.
Wouldn't that be enough ?
2016/03/14 19:00:38
John
No Paul. After using the Studio One remote for Windows and touch its clear to me that an app designed for the job is the proper way to do this.  In the picture I posted I only showed one screen. There are others that control all sorts of things. From sends to FX to in and outs. It has very little to no documentation yet its very intuitive and easy to use. Only an app that is thoughtfully created to do the single job of remotely controlling a powerful DAW is going to do the job properly. That is what Studio One Remote is. 
 
I have tried many other general purpose apps for controlling Sonar and none of them are worth the hassle. 
2016/03/14 19:07:46
Anderton
John
I have tried many other general purpose apps for controlling Sonar and none of them are worth the hassle. 



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