• SONAR
  • Time to start talking about the new year subscription options/changes? (p.8)
2016/01/07 21:13:33
Andrew Rossa
Psychobillybob
Anderton
Psychobillybob
I think you have to determine the value of the monthly fee vs the product provided...as of the end of this month I will "own" SPLAT but beyond that I cannot see a monthly fee as being worth it for the content provided, the Craig Anderton stuff I would never have purchased...

 
I really don't know how many times I have to say that no Cakewalk dev time is spent on content and you are getting it as a bonus, but clearly I need to say it once more. It is all material I develop for my own needs and use in projects for me or various clients, which I am happy to share with the Cakewalk community.
 
It's obvious from reactions in the forum that many people find the content an extremely useful addition, whether it's something that makes it easier to mix music on headphones, an amp sim that guitarists find better than commercial alternatives, a percussion loop library to fill out a song, tools to make acoustic guitar recordings sound much better, etc. etc. I don't care if you don't need any of that; I care about the people who do.


You obviously care enough to respond every-time you see a thread mention your stuff...methinks you protest too much.
 
Frankly I tried to use the amp sims and found them simply horrible, but then again I build vintage amps and use S-gear...to each their own...my point is I do not find the need to upgrade on a monthly basis for stuff I will not use and I think that is not an unusual or extreme posture, if Cakewalk is providing a new recording tool every month some might find that useful, honestly I doubt if most people use the the entire package a it is, it is plenty of product out of the box.




That is certainly your right. That's what great is that you can choose when to upgrade. I think having that power is good for the consumer and makes us continually work hard to make the product awesome. If you like what you have now and want to continue to use it, you also have that option. Win-Win!
2016/01/07 21:14:36
Andrew Rossa
ampfixer
We've had this glitch at the 11th hr. regarding renewals but I bet it won't happen again.
 
The updates in 2015 were outstanding. You could literally see the progress as Sonar matured and glitches melted away. All versions got the rewards from a lot of hard work, it wasn't confined to Platinum. This is now a tool that competes with anything out their. Now more than ever it's the best deal available for me.
 


Renewal pricing explained here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Please-read-Renewal-pricing-m3348444.aspx
 
Next week should be good as we have some more announcements of new features coming in 2016 as well. Stay tuned.
2016/01/07 21:17:41
BRainbow
NEVERMIND:  Just saw Andrew's response and his other good news post.  Check it out.  You'll like it.
 
 
promidi,  what was the yearly price?  My year is up in March and I don't want to cancel now just to find out what they will charge me.
 
Thanks,
Bill
 
 
promidi said:
<<I wanted to go from monthly to yearly, so I cancelled the monthly membership and just purchased the yearly from the Cakewalk store.>> 
2016/01/07 21:24:38
Leadfoot
Renewal price for Platinum now through March 31st is $99! Nice deal, bakers!
2016/01/07 21:32:53
Andrew Rossa
I should also mention, you don't need to have your membership expiring to renew. If you want to lock in another year at the special price, you can do it today and it will add one year to your current end date. So for example, if you were ending on June 1, 2016 and you purchased today, your new end date would be June 2, 2017.
 
 
2016/01/07 21:40:00
Anderton
Psychobillybob
 
You obviously care enough to respond every-time you see a thread mention your stuff...methinks you protest too much.

 
I care enough to answer any posts I see that contain misinformation, or where I can assist someone in understanding something they don't understand. You said "the Craig Anderton stuff I would never have purchased." I cannot make it any clearer than this: You are not paying for my content, nor is Cakewalk or Gibson. I am creating it for free and giving it away for free. My reward is that many people appreciate it and use it. If people didn't like it, I wouldn't do it.
 
Frankly I tried to use the amp sims and found them simply horrible

 
They WERE horrible initially, there was a glitch with the installation that has since been remedied. If you listen to the guitar sounds on the preview link I posted for my next album, you would realize they absolutely do not sound "horrible" in the hands of someone who knows how to use them, which many people here apparently do. (BTW I like S-Gear too, and you can thank me for its input meters now registering input signal level clips accurately...an issue I pointed out to Mike when I first evaluated version 1.)
 
My point is I do not find the need to upgrade on a monthly basis for stuff I will not use and I think that is not an unusual or extreme posture.

 
I totally agree that isn't an unusual or extreme position. It was your attitude of not considering additional optimizations as worthy of compensation, dismissing features as "eye candy" and "gadgets," and stating the upgrades are "semi-useful" when it's clear many of these features have been extremely well-received and also many of them are the direct result of requests from Cakewalk users and participants in this forum. 
 
Of course you can do a lot with SONAR out of the box, and of course no one uses all the features, just as no one watches all the channels on their cable TV even though they're all paid for with a single bill. There's nothing inherently wrong with offering lots of possibilities and letting people choose which ones they find most useful. I doubt you read every article in a newspaper or magazine, either.
 
I absolutely agree there's no need for you to renew if you don't need anything more than what SONAR already offers. It was other elements of what you said with which I disagreed.
 
2016/01/07 21:53:27
charlyg
here is  how it worked for me today. i clicked on buy now,I went to check out, and my monthly pmt is now $14.99 for the year instead of the $29.99 I was paying since march(upgrade price from Pro), so obviously I didn't pay for a whole year. I am happy with the way it all turned out...on my end!
 
 
2016/01/07 22:33:40
mixmkr
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
I should also mention, you don't need to have your membership expiring to renew. If you want to lock in another year at the special price, you can do it today and it will add one year to your current end date. So for example, if you were ending on June 1, 2016 and you purchased today, your new end date would be June 2, 2017.
 
 


Not to cloud the waters...and I'm sure someone else will probably ask the same...but these are great prices.  My question...  are we limited to just buying ONE year renewal?  IOW, I've already renewed SPlat, but would pay another $99 for a 2nd year.  Don't smack me for asking :-D
btw, great work Cakewalk.
2016/01/08 09:38:29
BassDaddy
mixmkr
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
I should also mention, you don't need to have your membership expiring to renew. If you want to lock in another year at the special price, you can do it today and it will add one year to your current end date. So for example, if you were ending on June 1, 2016 and you purchased today, your new end date would be June 2, 2017.
 
 


Not to cloud the waters...and I'm sure someone else will probably ask the same...but these are great prices.  My question...  are we limited to just buying ONE year renewal?  IOW, I've already renewed SPlat, but would pay another $99 for a 2nd year.  Don't smack me for asking :-D
btw, great work Cakewalk.


That's reasonable question. I can't think of a reason for not taking your money for 2 years but maybe there would be one.
2016/01/08 09:45:05
Karyn
BassDaddy
mixmkr
Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
I should also mention, you don't need to have your membership expiring to renew. If you want to lock in another year at the special price, you can do it today and it will add one year to your current end date. So for example, if you were ending on June 1, 2016 and you purchased today, your new end date would be June 2, 2017.
 
 


Not to cloud the waters...and I'm sure someone else will probably ask the same...but these are great prices.  My question...  are we limited to just buying ONE year renewal?  IOW, I've already renewed SPlat, but would pay another $99 for a 2nd year.  Don't smack me for asking :-D
btw, great work Cakewalk.


That's reasonable question. I can't think of a reason for not taking your money for 2 years but maybe there would be one.


There could be the argument that $99 for Splat is a limited special offer price, and thus could be limited to "One per registered product..."
 
There is also the argument that if there's a special offer next year it may be $49 for 12 more months (though I highly doubt that ) so you'd have paid $50 to much...
 
Try buying ten years worth and let us know what happens
 
 
Don't quote me on ANY of this
 
 
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