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2015/01/23 16:40:05
stickman393
I'm not able to configure Track View so that an Rec-Armed MIDI track shows the meter.
I noticed this in SONAR X3, but the same problem seems to exist in SONAR Platinum.
 
I like to have Track Meters set so that they only display when armed for recording. Audio tracks work fine. MIDI tracks won't show the meter.
 
Am I missing something?
2015/01/23 17:10:36
brundlefly
Yes, this appears broken going back at least to 8.5.3, the oldest version I still have installed. I've never suppressed playback meters, so never noticed it. My guess is it has something to do with the fact that MIDI meters are strictly output meters. They only register on recording if Input Echo is enabled. But even when that is true, they still don't show up if playback meters are disabled in TV Options.
 
I participated in a long thread about issues with MIDI meters disappearing when arming tracks back in S7 (!) related to projects born in S6. Possibly some fix related to that caused this new behavior. For the curious:
 
http://forum.cakewalk.com...enabled-m1349370.aspx?
2015/01/23 17:11:25
John
I just tried this and I see the MIDI meter showing activity as I hit keys on my MIDI keyboard.  This was also the case with X3
2015/01/23 17:13:30
John
Are you guys using the Inspector to see the record MIDI meter?
2015/01/23 17:15:55
brundlefly
Hi John. The issue is if you go into TV Options > Meter Options, and uncheck Playback Meters, Record Meters will not show up on MIDI tracks when you arm them.
 
Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as a Record Meter for MIDI since SONAR doesn't monitor the MIDI IN, only the MIDI Out. But it's a little problematic if you're trying to confirm MIDI activity before recording.
 
2015/01/23 17:17:11
John
OK I see the meter in both the Inspector and in the track header and its working as expected to. 
 
2015/01/23 17:24:31
John
brundlefly
Hi John. The issue is if you go into TV Options > Meter Options, and uncheck Playback Meters, Record Meters will not show up on MIDI tracks when you arm them.
 
Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as a Record Meter for MIDI since SONAR doesn't monitor the MIDI IN, only the MIDI Out. But it's a little problematic if you're trying to confirm MIDI activity before recording.
 


I'm not understanding this I always believed those options apply to audio not MIDI. The options have no real meaning if applied to MIDI. 
 
Also I'm not all that sure that inputing MIDI is not monitored.  How could it show activity on mine if it didn't? How could it become recorded and in a track if Sonar didn't see it?
2015/01/23 17:43:50
stickman393
I rarely have the Inspector visible so it is quite possible the the MIDI track recording meter is visible there.
But it should be visible in the track strip, I think. Just like audio record meters do, when armed, even if "Display Playback Meters" is un-checked.
 
Thanks guys. I will work up a "steps to repro" and submit this in the Problem Reporter.
 
2015/01/23 17:53:17
Bristol_Jonesey
I've just tested this on my system, doing exactly what you suggested and the record meter on bothe the Midi track and the associated Audio track both respond when armed for recording.
 
They also respond as expected : The Midi track shows a very sharp transient to indicate Note On an d then drops to 0, the Audio track follows the envelope of the audio
It might be necessary to right click in the space below the track header and select "Show Playback Meter"
2015/01/23 17:55:15
Bristol_Jonesey
Incidentally, the Midi track doesn't have an option to switch a Record meter on/off, just Playback
 
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