• SONAR
  • To New Members; Please read (p.2)
2015/07/23 12:19:16
mudgel
So if members and forum hosts aren't familiar with what's in the current lot of sticks why should we have an expectation that new users will read the sticky before posting.
2015/07/23 12:21:02
Doktor Avalanche
mudgel
The information in the first post is already in the Cakewalk Product handbook which is a sticky post already. Here's an excerpt from it.....

Follow these pro tips to help ensure that your question/comment/concern gets help from the community.

1. Be descriptive!
The exact version of the Cakewalk software (found under Help > About SONAR) or model of hardware you are using is really helpful.
Do: "SONAR X3 Producer (X3e build 352) - x64"
Don't: "SONAR"

Your computer and hardware specifications such as CPU, GPU, RAM, Operating System, Audio/MIDI Interface and external peripherals are important pieces of information to know when troubleshooting.
Do: "Intel i7-5960X, 8GB Ram, Windows 8.1, MOTU 828mkIII, Awesome mouse and keyboards"
Don't: "Laptop"

Any additional software you may be using (third-party plug-ins, hosts, etc.)



Right, that's where it belongs.. the forum handbook. It needs to be tweaked a little IMHO, it should always at the top (not hidden in the middle of stickies), and the subject title renamed "New Users Please Read"... the current subject title hardly reaches out to the eyeballs... Well that's my opinion anyway FWIW (which is probably not worth anything as per usual).
2015/07/23 12:22:10
John
Doktor Avalanche
John
I'm assuming when you say "stick it in your signature" you're telling the new member to do that, Alex, about their specs? You will notice I don't do that. 



This is probably a cultural US thing. I am not telling anybody to do anything, I am advising... of course. Why the heck would I tell them I'm not a Nazi am I? Try to image every time I post I do it with a smile. It's really helpful not only to know specs, but to know where they are placed for speed reading. If six different posters have similar problems, if they have sigs you can speed read down and read each post, and possibly identify similarities in their specs straight away. If you don't want to do it fair enough. but the question really is - why wouldn't you want to do it?


Why wouldn't I want to do it? Because how many times have I asked for help here or anywhere?  To me it is a waste of space with no practical use. When I have asked for help I have always added the pertinent information. That information changes over time and I don't want to update it either.
 
I am not advising anyone to add or not add their specs to their sig. Its up to them. 
2015/07/23 12:23:44
Doktor Avalanche
John
Doktor Avalanche
John
I'm assuming when you say "stick it in your signature" you're telling the new member to do that, Alex, about their specs? You will notice I don't do that. 



This is probably a cultural US thing. I am not telling anybody to do anything, I am advising... of course. Why the heck would I tell them I'm not a Nazi am I? Try to image every time I post I do it with a smile. It's really helpful not only to know specs, but to know where they are placed for speed reading. If six different posters have similar problems, if they have sigs you can speed read down and read each post, and possibly identify similarities in their specs straight away. If you don't want to do it fair enough. but the question really is - why wouldn't you want to do it?


Why wouldn't I want to do it? Because how many times have I asked for help here or anywhere?  To me it is a waste of space with no practical use. When I have asked for help I have always added the pertinent information. That information changes over time and I don't want to update it either.
 
I am not advising anyone to add or not add their specs to their sig. Its up to them. 




Right so when I wrote " If six different posters have similar problems, if they have sigs you can speed read down and read each post, and possibly identify similarities in their specs straight away. " that absolutely has no use whatsoever. I already wrote "I am advising".
 
Thanks for clarification John. Apologies as per usual for having an opinion.
2015/07/23 12:27:40
John
Mike thats not what is in the OP. Some of it is but I also added more specifics and I added the need to stick around for answers. Also it can't hurt to make the point again. 
 
Mike I should tell you the hosts help write the COC.  
 
2015/07/23 12:32:34
pwalpwal
Doktor Avalanche
Also there is still a misunderstanding about the problem report forums, it is there so that people can validate their bug with other members of the community before they submit it in problem reporter... then they can alter the subject title with a CWBRN. Otherwise what's the point of it
cough cough
2015/07/23 12:42:49
Doktor Avalanche
Doktor Avalanche
Also there is still a misunderstanding about the problem report forums, it is there so that people can validate their bug with other members of the community before they submit it in problem reporter... then they can alter the subject title with a CWBRN. Otherwise what's the point of it

 
pwalpwal
cough cough

 
Well here is it in official speak (edited for just my points above):


http://forum.cakewalk.com/Feedback-Loop-Handbook-Please-read-before-posting-m3151738.aspx
 
Handbook
Please note that this is a forum for reporting issues, and verifying that what you're experiencing is or is not a bug. If you are seeking troubleshooting help, your thread would be more suited for the corresponding forum for that product. If your thread is better suited for another forum, or is found to be an issue that can be resolved through troubleshooting, your thread may be moved to the appropriate forum.

 
Handbook
  • A problem has been identified and is reproducible by another member of the community. -> Once a problem has been submitted through the Problem Reporter, then the forum host, a Cakewalk staffer, or the person posting will modify the title in the format "[CWBRN-566789] - Topic title". 

 
Please pay attention to the "A problem has been identified and is reproducible by another member of the community." where you then modify the subject title afterwards, and the bit that says " "verifying that what you're experiencing is or is not a bug." and the bit that says "If your thread is better suited for another forum, or is found to be an issue that can be resolved through troubleshooting, your thread may be moved to the appropriate forum."
 
Anyway regardless what I paraphrased came from me so please ignore or post some other stuff about how wrong I am even though the forum handbook says it, I am always wrong by default. In fact please put in the forum handbook "Ignore Doktor Avalanche he just writes dribble nobody cares about".
2015/07/23 12:46:39
John
Doktor Avalanche
John
Doktor Avalanche
John
I'm assuming when you say "stick it in your signature" you're telling the new member to do that, Alex, about their specs? You will notice I don't do that. 



This is probably a cultural US thing. I am not telling anybody to do anything, I am advising... of course. Why the heck would I tell them I'm not a Nazi am I? Try to image every time I post I do it with a smile. It's really helpful not only to know specs, but to know where they are placed for speed reading. If six different posters have similar problems, if they have sigs you can speed read down and read each post, and possibly identify similarities in their specs straight away. If you don't want to do it fair enough. but the question really is - why wouldn't you want to do it?


Why wouldn't I want to do it? Because how many times have I asked for help here or anywhere?  To me it is a waste of space with no practical use. When I have asked for help I have always added the pertinent information. That information changes over time and I don't want to update it either.
 
I am not advising anyone to add or not add their specs to their sig. Its up to them. 




Right so when I wrote " If six different posters have similar problems, if they have sigs you can speed read down and read each post, and possibly identify similarities in their specs straight away. " that absolutely has no use whatsoever. I already wrote "I am advising".
 
Thanks for clarification John. Apologies as per usual for having an opinion.


Alex I don't think you understand my position. I have the option to add specs to my sig and I chose not too. I was addressing only your question of why I don't have them in mine. What you have in yours is your business.  
2015/07/23 12:50:59
pwalpwal
Doktor Avalanche
Doktor Avalanche
Also there is still a misunderstanding about the problem report forums, it is there so that people can validate their bug with other members of the community before they submit it in problem reporter... then they can alter the subject title with a CWBRN. Otherwise what's the point of it

 
pwalpwal
cough cough

 
Well here is it in official speak (edited for just my points above):


http://forum.cakewalk.com/Feedback-Loop-Handbook-Please-read-before-posting-m3151738.aspx
 
Handbook
Please note that this is a forum for reporting issues, and verifying that what you're experiencing is or is not a bug. If you are seeking troubleshooting help, your thread would be more suited for the corresponding forum for that product. If your thread is better suited for another forum, or is found to be an issue that can be resolved through troubleshooting, your thread may be moved to the appropriate forum.

 
Handbook
  • A problem has been identified and is reproducible by another member of the community. -> Once a problem has been submitted through the Problem Reporter, then the forum host, a Cakewalk staffer, or the person posting will modify the title in the format "[CWBRN-566789] - Topic title". 

 
Please pay attention to the "A problem has been identified and is reproducible by another member of the community." where you then modify the subject title afterwards, and the bit that says " "verifying that what you're experiencing is or is not a bug." and the bit that says "If your thread is better suited for another forum, or is found to be an issue that can be resolved through troubleshooting, your thread may be moved to the appropriate forum."
 
Anyway regardless what I paraphrased came from me so please ignore or post some other stuff about how wrong I am even though the forum handbook says it, I am always wrong by default. In fact please put in the forum handbook "Ignore Doktor Avalanche he just writes dribble nobody cares about".

You previously said the handbook needed updating lol
2015/07/23 12:52:05
charlyg
And thanks again for the block feature....
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