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2015/03/28 01:02:03
Doktor Avalanche
Darn right you shouldn't have to go into the registry... I'm sure the CCC will tackle this in future (all it will be is a UI to change the registry entry anyway if you are talking about settings).

Hang on I'm back in the Ubuntu forums it seems...
2015/03/28 01:07:39
Anderton
mettelus
At least you have validated my point of initially offering a workaround as a "solution." Thank you for that.

 
Definition of "workaround" from Merriam-Webster:
 
"a plan or method to circumvent a problem (as in computer software) without eliminating it"
 
Definition of "solution" from Merriam-Webster:
 
"something that is used or done to deal with and end a problem : something that solves a problem"
 
The OP limited his comments to downloading the new help files. His problem was supposedly not having easy and fast access to new help files. Having online help available eliminates and ends the problem of not having easy access to new help files. Sure sounds like a solution to me.

As to whether the PDF should be a separately downloadable file, I've already stated in previous threads that I think it should be. But that wasn't what the OP was about. It was about accessing the newer help files, and at least according to the generally accepted definitions of the words, I provided a solution in post #3 and not a workaround.
2015/03/28 01:48:47
Doktor Avalanche
Each to their own about where they put their OS/apps and their files, but I partition my drives, that way it's fast to access and keeps fragmentation down to a minimum. Plus it makes backups far simpler and more efficient in event of disaster. I always separate resources and data away from the OS partion, and I don't believe it to be an unusual scenario.
2015/03/28 02:05:49
Doktor Avalanche
Also you have to consider dual boot scenarios where you want data to be easy to access no matter what OS you are using. Mounting a windows OS partition in Linux so I can hunt around for data ain't the most efficient way of going about things..
2015/03/28 02:15:48
John
DA you seem to be talking about a totally different issue. If you don't know by now one can install Sonar 2015 manually using the the files in your CW store account. I don't know if you can get patches manually but its possible that once installed C3 may use the paths you used to install manually to update. I don't know this but it maybe worth a try.  
2015/03/28 04:05:15
mudgel
I can assure you that CCC does not learn from previous installations. Even if the registry has been modified CCC will still make changes according to running the default installer for every individual program element. It will not respect registry changes either. I've had the biggest VST mess with installing Cambridge and all the CCC items that had become red lighted even though the items were previously installed through the CCC. Because we get notification through the release eZine, I won't use the CCC again until it has significantly matured.

The Cambridge "Patch" is simply the latest Sonar installer available in your SSO account. It's called Cambridge Update 2 and labelled as 21.2.0.21. If I didn't keep the files on my PC I don't know how to find the first installer and do it manually. I know I can rollback and choose which version there but if I had to start from scratch I guess I'd have to contact Cakewalk support for a download link.
2015/03/28 04:36:14
jih64
I keep a backup copy of everything, multiple backup copies, just in case :)
2015/03/28 05:12:21
mettelus
Um... well, that sort of validates #2 "or worse, a rationalized excuse as to why users should lower their expectations."
Your explanation is truly your interpretation of the OP? Being able to recall content from posts so readily, yet applying assumption (to reach one's own ends) just as readily comes off "rather odd."
 
The reaction to the CCC by all parties (who should be) most intimately involved with "issues" led me to an off-the-cuff comment, which was (in essence), "This all stinks of an out-sourced piece of coding." The CCC came under fire early on (and met with workarounds/rationalizations since day one), which was also why I originally had planned not to redeem Platinum until June, yet now I see workaround/rationalization as the "norm."
 
I was wholeheartedly hoping that my "June deployment maturity" prediction would fall through, but you have successfully lowered my expectations. Congratulations, I guess.
2015/03/28 10:42:37
SilkTone
Guys, we really do need to lower our expectations here. This is what CW's response is to complaints about C3 crapping all over your C drive without even warning you, let alone giving you an option:
 
Willy Jones [Cakewalk]
Because it adds a layer of complexity between a new user making music right away. I'd hate to burst your bubble here - but you are in the minority. The vast majority of users don't specify custom paths. Muddying up the first time/new user experience because [insert your name here] doesn't like it is a poor design choice and counter-productive to one of C3's major goals: remove obstacles to firing up a project and making music fast

2015/03/28 11:02:44
Doktor Avalanche
That comment directly above is in the context of CCC.
 
Please don't get this categorised as a CCC issue, we all know it needs work.
 
CCC does install to the correct areas after you've installed Platinum and have your registry settings set correctly with the exception of the Dim Pro Installer, Rapture and Boost 11 in the latest update. The issue is NOT with CCC it is with the installers.
 
mudgel
Even if the registry has been modified CCC will still make changes according to running the default installer for every individual program element.

 
As far as the lights are concerned - yes they ignore the registry (for example Dim Pro and Rapture) and there's no real logic.
 
In regards to installation I don't see this at all in the latest update if the registry settings are set correctly apart from the 3 installers I mentioned. Might want to check them. If you see other areas I may have missed let us know in regards to this update.
 
In regards to Boost 11 they are clearly building it as part of Sonar package rather than stand alone hence the version numbers are incrementing as though it's a new release on every update - this is a developer error. And regardless it's resetting the registry path as though it's a brand new install every time, there is no upgrade logic.
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