• SONAR
  • Important question still (p.2)
2018/03/23 14:36:14
azslow3
scook
The activation process will not change. Noel's post made it very clear:
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
...nothing is going to happen to existing activation's during or after the transition to BandLab. If you choose the reinstall the software the same activation process with apply as before.

What will change is the server maintaining your account information the activation process uses.

That is exactly what has to be clarified.
 
Meng
Signing up for a new legacy Cakewalk account is no longer available and for those who have accounts, the reason for this is that we will be tagging your Cakewalk ID to your new BandLab account as we migrate databases and wind down the legacy server. Starting very soon, your BandLab account will be what you use to authenticate and activate TDFKAS and replaces the old Cakewalk account.

On one side, there is "we migrate databases and wind down the legacy server".
But only TDFKAS is mentioned explicitly. I do not see "Sonar and other legacy Cakewalk products authentication".
I see only "replaces the old Cakewalk account", whatever that means.
 
 
 
2018/03/23 14:40:12
azslow3
mettelus
 A database migration is so simple that this isn't even humorous to me.

Except transferring password hashes, in case they do not want to use the same encryption. That can explain why they can not transfer. But they could tell that more or less explicitly (at least the way people which want to understand the reason can understand it).
 
2018/03/23 14:56:51
scook
Noel's post is unambiguous. The activation process for SONAR will not change during or after the transition. The BandLab account migration is similar to the Cakewalk SSO migration a few years ago.
2018/03/23 14:59:10
Karyn
The Speculation Game (tm)
 
Easy to enter,  just post your best guess at the number of accounts that are inactive due to...
   Lost passwords
   Forgotten which email address used
   Multiple accounts
   No access to email account
   Signed up but never used
   Lost interest
   Didn't know what was signing up to in the first place
   Any other reason the account is a waste of disk space
 
 
The actual numbers you post are irrelevant,  the winner will be determined as the most convincingly true, as if you've had actual access to Gisbon servers and run the relevant reports.
Plenty of narrative as to why your answer is more authoritative than any other (I read tea leaves,  I saw it in a dream, etc...) is a must for your entry to be even considered.
Bonus points may be given for alternative answers to what has already been posted by Bandlab re: the future of all Cakewalk software,  but only if it sounds like you really know for sure...
 
 
Instant Win
If you can make your answer so convincing that someone else creates a new thread complaining about whatever fact you've made up, then you instantly win the internet.
 
 
Rules of entry:
There are no official rules,  but feel free to post your own rules as if there are official rules.
Forum Hosts are not barred from entry,  we know no more than anyone else. We just re-post what has be posted by BandLab.
 
E. & O. E.
2018/03/23 15:01:38
scook
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2018/03/23 17:00:07
azslow3
scook
Noel's post is unambiguous. The activation process for SONAR will not change during or after the transition. The BandLab account migration is similar to the Cakewalk SSO migration a few years ago.

SSO migration was:
* before on-line authorization, so was not affecting products authorization
* with clearly defined time rules
* it was clearly visible when accounts was merged successfully
 
All 3 points are not the case now, when we have:
* on-line authorization which can fail any time in case something is wrong (windows update, "self-reverting" into Demo mode, etc)
* "wind down the legacy server". When?
* I have signed up using the same e-mail / user name. I "should not worry". But how I can see the account is recognized?
 
PS. Trolling hosts in the serious thread without single off-topic statement. That is where we are...
2018/03/23 17:20:13
scook
Sure there are differences between the two migrations. That is why I said they were similar. Users are asked to create new accounts in a different database using the same email address to facilitate the transition to a new system. I do not expect any company to discuss implementation details. I do expect them to provide a way for users to validate the process. The process is not over, it has just begun.
 
The OP asked about activation. The statement regarding activation is clear. When Noel said "nothing is going to happen to existing activation's during or after the transition to BandLab" the only activation's were Cakewalk products. The activation process for Cakewalk products will not change.
2018/03/23 18:24:52
Karyn
azslow3
PS. Trolling hosts in the serious thread without single off-topic statement. That is where we are...

EVERYTHING in the OP was addressed and answered by Meng by in his first couple of posts and announcements.
 
To summarise..  
Bandlab bought everything, including authorisation systems/servers.
Bandlab intend access for existing customers to their purchased products to continue as before.
The Daw Formerly Known As Sonar is undergoing rebranding and will "soon" be re-released.
All current owners of TDFKAS (any version) will get a free crossgrade to the re-branded version.
IT systems previously under the control of Cakewalk (Gibson) are being migrated to systems under the control of Bandlab.
Authorisation servers are being migrated from Cakewalk (Gibson) control to Bandlab control.
 
All this has been stated categorically by either Meng or Noel.    All the many questions being posted are the result of either not reading the posts, not believing the posts, not trusting the posts or believing the many speculation posts that are everywhere, many of which directly contradict what has been posted officially...
 
So yes,  I guess I was trolling.  I'm trying to put an end to people constantly posting false information and/or asking questions about false information as if it were correct (see the "instant win" option above).
 
Short of posting a sticky stating "Please do not post any further speculation" what are we supposed to do?
 
The answer to every question asked in all of these threads is in post 1 of the "Hello" sticky.  If the answer is not there, we have not been told....
 
p.s.  The Hosts are users just like everyone else. We have the same information as everyone else.  Unlike everyone else we're expected to read just about everything that is posted.  Seeing the same questions based on false rumour and speculation asked over and over is very frustrating...  Yes we are (mostly) human.  No I do not apologise for a feeble attempt at adding a little humour.
2018/03/23 18:34:07
Anderton
A little humor is welcome.
2018/03/23 19:13:33
spacey
Everything that I've purchased and is in my Cakewalk account history will be available to download and activate from my BandLab account after the migration.  Confirmed on behalf of Noel and Meng by Karen and scook .
 
Thanks. All I needed.
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