I don't even know where the 'Staff view to end all Staff views" meme came from. I think one guy wanted music publisher quality printed scores. For him the musicXML interface to notation software would solve his problem.
Sounds like a straw man argument to me.
 

what I would really like is somethnig similar to VST Expression maps in Cubase and the link to notation. This way we could manipulate midi data with standard musical notation to change articulations, nuances, tempo changes, song markers, etc.
 
Just look for some VST expression maps videos on You Tube and you will see what I mean.

cityrat

joden
And I very much doubt that the other folks are asking for more than that either sonartist...so don't alienate your support for this. 

Agreed.  Most of the people asking for updates, etc are careful to state this. But it seems that there are some people (who generally don't use SV) who do need to chime in and say that CW should not spend all it's resources on a full on Sib/Finale competitor - implying or thinking that's what we want.
 
But as was said - glad Craig gets it. I think we're trying to be clear enough.
 
 

exactly...
 
just fix the 5 or 6 SV limitations
 
no need to torque off the rest of the Sonar customers or drain the Sonar resource pool

mcouture1961
what I would really like is somethnig similar to VST Expression maps in Cubase and the link to notation. This way we could manipulate midi data with standard musical notation to change articulations, nuances, tempo changes, song markers, etc.
 
Just look for some VST expression maps videos on You Tube and you will see what I mean.

Please put this in the Ideas and Features forum so we can vote on it.
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Features-Ideas-f76.aspx
Thanks

microapp
I don't even know where the 'Staff view to end all Staff views" meme came from. I think one guy wanted music publisher quality printed scores. For him the musicXML interface to notation software would solve his problem.
Sounds like a straw man argument to me.

 
No one else said that, I said that - "I thought it would make sense if Cakewalk made the SV functional for the majority of users who need SV, and not worry about making the 'staff view to end all staff views.' They're too far behind in that race to catch up, without a lot of additional resources."
 
I'm just saying I think they should make it functional for the majority of users, and not worry about anything heavier-duty than that in order to try and compete with, say, Sibelius. I never said that's what other people were asking for, just that I don't think they should go down that road. 

Anderton

microapp
I don't even know where the 'Staff view to end all Staff views" meme came from. I think one guy wanted music publisher quality printed scores. For him the musicXML interface to notation software would solve his problem.
Sounds like a straw man argument to me.

 
No one else said that, I said that - "I thought it would make sense if Cakewalk made the SV functional for the majority of users who need SV, and not worry about making the 'staff view to end all staff views.' They're too far behind in that race to catch up, without a lot of additional resources."
 
I'm just saying I think they should make it functional for the majority of users, and not worry about anything heavier-duty than that in order to try and compete with, say, Sibelius. I never said that's what other people were asking for, just that I don't think they should go down that road. 

And this is what everyone else is saying too.
For those who want more ...Add/fix the musicXML interface.

Another improvement for SV that would be huge: being able to print only the instruments playing at a given time. For example, in a symphony, if only the strings are playing, only the strings are displayed/printed. So that when you go to print, the first page has all the instruments (so you know what they are), and then the score gets tabulated so that each page has only those instruments currently playing. I shouldn't think that would be too hard to do. It's a distraction to have every instrument showing on every page, regardless of whether they are playing. A conductor would not waste his time looking at such a score.

Michael,
Currently SV is not capable of handling even simple triplet notation correctly. A full orchestral score is not really possible currently to display correctly let alone print. Such a score would best be done in software designed to handle such things (Finale,Sibelius,Notion). Notation programs should have no trouble handling what you describe since that is what they are designed for. 
However, there is some interest in getting Cake to fully implement musicXML which allows notation programs to exchange musical notation with Sonar. You could export a piece composed in Sonar, then import to say Finale and print it like you describe. Cakewalk has shown no interest in what you describe for SV and we are just trying to get them to fix the bugs in SV that have been ignored for years.
If you are interested in musicXML support for Sonar, go here
http://forum.cakewalk.com/MusicXML-support-m3152945.aspx
and click on the 1-5 stars to the right of the thread title to vote to add this feature.

I added feature requests for the things I think would improve the staff view the most, please vote for them if you agree. If I missed something that is really important, please add your own.
Thanks

SONARtist
I give up ... I was not speaking about a fully-blown and public distributable immaculate sheet music printout.  All I need is a basic "handout" print-off which is given to musicians and then discussed (and manually corrected) before recording.  I could accept what is currently available in SONAR .. IF it printed correctly (e.g. triplets).  But there could be further enhancements, not just bug fixes, and I have voted on most of the ones submitted.
Thanks to all who added their requests.

This is all I am after really. Having done a few searches about MusicXML, I started to realise that even asking for a PNG file requires formatting and Rasterisation processes, something probably outside their skill set, and whilst this could be developed, maybe a can of worms. A workable MusicXML file is different though. It''s seems their are programs like LilyPond that could handle them, that are free, and probably some cheep basic notation programs. Without Music XML I can screen dumo and edit in MSPaint, but it's a fudge.
 
A few years back, when VVocal came out, someone posted a string quartet performance by by a non-pro quartet that was loose to say the least, it sounded all right. Then V-Vocal fixed it, and it sounded pretty damned good. Tools like these mean that for non professionals, amateurs can be an assett, but if they are educated through school, they will most likely need printed music. In Brighton, UK I'd see trombonist's on the bus, and think if they would be interested. I won't find them here, but maybe a cellist. I'd need a print out to have them play. Just to tell them to concentrate on there tone, would probably be enough for me to fix anything after