MusicXML support

Please,
Integrate musicXML with Staff View.
Add full musicXML import capabilities. Currently there are none.
Fix musicXML export bugs.

Yes, this would be great. I would then have no reason to consider leaving Cakewalk.

Fourthed. :)

+1

pbognar

microapp
Please,
Integrate musicXML with Staff View.
Add full musicXML import capabilities. Currently there are none.
Fix musicXML export bugs.

Sounds reasonable - I second the motion.

I gave a more detailed explanation of how MusicXML could benefit external notation users (e.g. Finale, Sibelius) at http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3156971

microapp
Fix musicXML export bugs.

I was not aware MusicXML was supported in any form.  That is good to know.  My interest is on the import side, but export would be useful for somebody who composes in Sonar and wants to produce a polished score in a proper notation program.
 
Can anybody share real world experiences exporting a Sonar project into an external notation program with MusicXML?

Hard to tell if this one is SOnar or MuseScore issue.
http://musescore.org/node/18892
These are definitely Sonar related
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Sonar-X1-Expanded-Problem-with-MusicXML-Export-and-MuseScore-m2418439.aspx
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Sonar-MusicXML-gt-Sibelius-m2435599.aspx
http://forum.cakewalk.com/MusicXMLAnyone-having-any-luck-m2437717.aspx
 

A true implementation of musicXML would need to convert articulations to MIDI and vice versa.
Also meter and accurate interpretation of things like dotted notes,triplets and ties.
Without this, you may as well import/export MIDI which is not very accurate as far as notation goes.
 

It applies to both although I would prefer musicXML import be more robust since a composition done in Finale and imported to Sonar Staff View/MIDI is likely to be more notationally complex than the other way round.
I doubt SV will ever be much more than it is now unless Cakes pairs up with a 3rd party notation company.
This brings up all kinds of issues. Would XML import even involve the staff view (a simplistic SV) ? Would XML import be to MIDI and then the MIDI is displayed in SV (the limited one we have now)? I am not sure if I had a robust XML import, I would even care about SV.

Here is a summary of a test I did last night.  As I have mentioned up-stream, my greatest interest is on the import side in order to get the best sounding renderings of compositions I do within a notation program -- Finale 2014 in my case.  Finale can do a pretty good rendering when using the Garritan libraries.  Finale proper allows precise control over interpretation of articulations like staccatos and marcatos.  The Human Playback feature does a great job of introducing volume control and tempo variations to interpret most of the markings in the score.  Finale includes a basic mixer and the Garritan Aria player has a basic reverb.  The results can be acceptable, but nothing like what you can do with fine-grained control in a DAW.
 
I was always afraid of of importing Finale's MIDI into Sonar because:
 
a) That takes a lot of project set-up
b) I was afraid it would be a real mess and would require a lot of touch-up after importing.
 
So as a result, I have done my rendering in Finale, and sometimes send the resulting WAVs into Sonar or Ozone for some refinement.
 
I had an arrangement that just wasn't working out using the Finale rendering.  I could never get anything like a good mix.  So last night I bit the bullet and did the process of sending all that MIDI into a Sonar project.  Here are my observations:

1. It took about 2 hours to get the Sonar project set up with all the right routing.  But the next time I do a project for a similar instrumentation, I can reuse that template.
2. The MIDI actually was pretty clean.  The keyswitches for mutes did not come through.  I had to add those manually.  There were a few cases where the volume controller actions didn't work out, but they would be fairly easy to edit within Sonar.
3. The overall result was very successful, with the end product being a far better mix than I could get through Finale.

So it is definitely viable.  The issue is the amount of work involved.  I don't believe that tempo changes or meter changes come through.  I had none of that on this project, but if I had to fix that manually, it would be a lot more work.  IMHO, this is too much work to do at intermediate steps of the project -- and that is when I really need good renderings to review with the client.  It is probably worth the effort for a one-time process once the Finale project is frozen as a final deliverable.
 
So I believe more than ever that this is a perfect candidate for automation to make it quick and easy to render into Sonar at any stage of the Finale (or any other notation program with good support of MusicXML and MIDI) project.
 
If anybody is interested in comparing, here are the two MP3s.  Please note that I am not going for the perfect mix, just a mix that reasonably illustrates the arrangement, making all the parts audible.  I can't do much better on the Finale version, but I could do a lot better on the Sonar version with another hour or two working on it.
 
Render in Finale: https://app.box.com/s/t7h24tjnub0fn59p9b7mq0qpbhhx5j5y
 
Render in Sonar: https://app.box.com/s/b76wfqky74no3drnxo2rsgojv95n94n0