Hi guys, I'm new here.
I write from Italy, so English is not my main language; sorry for any mistake.
 
Here we are: I'm planning to build my new DAW, but I'm not sure about the system I need; I'm using Sonar for years, and I'd like to use it in my new PC, too.
 
I don't know if in this case it is better to choose an Intel i7-7700 non K or an AMD Ryzen 5 1600; from the reviews, I see that an i7 has better IPC than R5, but this one performes better in multi-threaded applications. So, basically my doubt is if Sonar works better with a CPU with "stronger" IPC (such as Intel's i7) or if more cores are better for Sonar.
 
I already have 16 GB of Corsair LPX 2400 MHz memory, I got that kit for 70 euros and I'd like to re-use it.
 
Thank you in advance for any reply.

Hi Matteo,
 
Ran audio stress-tests with the Ryzen 1800x with two different X370 motherboards.
http://forum.cakewalk.com/i76850k-vs-i77700k-vs-Ryzen-1800x-m3578609.aspx
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Ryzen-1800x-test-quick-revisit-m3577909.aspx
 
In short, the 7700k is a much better choice for working with audio (especially at low-latency).
 
Ryzen is great at multi-threaded applications (video rendering)... but not for low-latency multi-threaded applications (mixing audio at low-latency settings).

This helps with my research, thanks!

Jim Roseberry
Hi Matteo,
 
Ran audio stress-tests with the Ryzen 1800x with two different X370 motherboards.


 
In short, the 7700k is a much better choice for working with audio (especially at low-latency).
 
Ryzen is great at multi-threaded applications (video rendering)... but not for low-latency multi-threaded applications (mixing audio at low-latency settings).

Thank you for your reply, Jim.
So I'm gonna choose Intel this time, can't wait to build my new system 

What kind specific of performance improvements / differences can one expect to see in general, when actually USING the application, I mean (not so much self-assessments, but on the GUI user-end)?
 
I ask only because I just finished my new DAW with an FX-8300 - that's a 8-core processor, but it seems audio-editing apps are more fond of greater clock speed than harnessing more cores.
But what do I know?

You don't want to sacrifice significant clock-speed for more cores.
In a perfect scenario, you want high clock-speed with more cores.  

Jim Roseberry
You don't want to sacrifice significant clock-speed for more cores.
In a perfect scenario, you want high clock-speed with more cores.  

But second best is certainly fewer cores and greater clock speed, presumably? Makes sense!

Very exciting Vi control thread on ryzen... Latest results...with bios upgrades. Thoughts?
http://vi-control.net/com...90/page-4#post-4078843

Interesting related post from today...
https://youtu.be/xama-Np0yKo

Yep, see my posts earlier.
Ryzen is great at multi-threaded applications (video rendering).
What it's not great at is multi-threaded applications at low latency settings.
Try those same tests again at a 32/48/64-sample ASIO buffer size.
 
Using DAW Bench, the 6850k (also $500) slams the 1800x.
The 7700k also handily bests the 1800x (The 7700k is $300).
 
We all had high hopes for Ryzen.
It's nowhere close to living up to the hype (for low latency audio).

 
 I agree, I have an i7 7700 and a Ryzen 1700 both with best motherboards and Fastest supported RAM. Yet when it comes to VSTi i7 is still King! best option is 6 core i7 6850 so I was told. Ryzen is no slouch, I have it over clocked and the RAM running at 3200Mhz but for some reason when it comes to running lots of VSTis, at low latency, i7 does a much better job at scaling under load.