i don't think there's anything official beyond the cakewalk and gibson statements

luizvitor89
Guys you give me wrong... I'm just asking...

I am not angry or regretful of my acquisition. I do not want a refund.
How I say: "I will continue to use as long as the operating system allows."

I wanted information.
Like the Overloud announciment: overloud.com/news/overloud-welcomes-cakewalk-customers

I want to know if you have some notice to Lifetime holders.

Answser is: No!?

Ok, alright.

 
I don't think anyone is angry about your question, it was a legitimate one. I think the best we can hope for is to contiue to use the software until it stops working for some reason. Also, to get activation codes from cake to be able to move to other/new computers but this is not a given even though stated we would get such codes. Other than that I think the offers available are those from others found in this thread for example http://forum.cakewalk.com/3rd-party-offers-made-to-Sonar-users-m3701893.aspx
 

Leee
You know, when my late wife was planning to divorce me ten years ago, I was flooded with well-meaning advice from friends, family, and people I barely knew.  And if I followed some of the advice that was offered, I would have made the situation 10 times worse for myself.   Because what was happening was people were giving me advice through their own perspective and experiences, most of which didn't apply to me.

The same thing is happening here, right now.   EVERYONE'S situation is different.  We have a range of Sonar users that are hobbyists all the way to professionals who use Sonar to make a living.  
I ran into a guy on a Facebook Cakewalk group who claimed that "anyone moving to a different DAW was never a true dedicated Cakewalk user", and that anyone "jumping ship" is a traitor.  He continued to respond that only good studio engineers and producers would know how to fix any problems Sonar might encounter in the future.

That's an example of the most ludicrous, self-centered opinion I've read so far. 
The bottom line is, each individual Cakewalk user must decide for themselves what is the best course of action.
It's okay to ask questions and give solicited advice about various options, but by NO means should one solution be applied to every single Sonar user.  And certainly no one should stand in judgement of choices being made that differ than their own.

If you want to try and get a refund, then good luck to you.  But trying to incite a lynch mob against Cakewalk or Gibson is a total waste of time.  Especially during these times where there is so much injustice in the world, you have to pick and choose your fights very carefully.   We're faced with an unexpected loss.  A loss that is very emotional that brings up feelings of losing a loved one or best friend.  A loss that could mean personal financial losses.  And a loss that is something that is almost totally out of our control.  

Do what you need to do.  If writing a letter or sending an email to Gibson or Cakewalk, relaying your feelings or requests, then do that.  But don't expect everyone to fall in line behind you just because YOU think it's what we should be doing.  Every single person has a different situation that calls for different solutions.  Once we realize that, it should eliminate a lot of the useless negativity that is flooding these forums and user groups.
 

True and by the same token, I am tired of the people just trashing Plat and getting down on others , like me, who are staying with Sonar.
Works both ways, you showed one side only. But a good post.

Matron Landslide
 
It's software, get a grip. It's a piece of software, anyone who develops such an emotional attachment to a piece of software has far greater issues than the end of the line for a piece of software they use, get some perspective please. 

Here's some perspective. I learned to use sequencers with hardware units. Then I bought a computer and bought a program called Cakewalk and learned to sequence in that. Although I've learned and used a few other platforms while working in friends studios over the years, Cakewalk and everything it developed into is what I've used for my own work since I've been using computers to make music.

Yep its just software. But this particular software and its particular feature set and its particular work flow form what has become my native language when it comes to DAW's. And that native language is going away. Yeah sure I'll learn a new platform and I'll come to be just as productive in it as I was in Sonar. But I will never again have a native language when it comes to DAW's. For a very long time into the future I will have to transpose everything on the fly through the filter of 'I want to do X (freeze a track, insert blank measures, use an external reverb etc) so how do I do that in this????'
 
And this will go on even after I've become an expert on the new platform. I'll know just how to do what I need to do and I'll be able to click right to it. But there will still that little glitch in my head that will say 'yeah but its not called freeze track in this, now its called <insert name> and its four steps instead of one.' Even when its a task that becomes one step instead of four, I will still do that math in my head every time because Sonar will always be my reference base. 
 
From what I've been told, you do get to a point with foreign languages where you begin to 'think' in that new language and no longer have to translate everything. But that will be a long ways off and I will never again have my native language to work in. 

So yeah its just software. But if being a little sad about all that means there's something wrong with me, then I guess I'll just have to find a way to live myself knowing I'm not as cool as everyone else who can just dump their platform and move one without any emotion.

Doesn't matter if it's a piece of software, or your house burned down and you didn't have insurance, or your dog got hit by a car, when you lose something that was yours it's going to hurt.  Some people don't care about dogs and say it was just a dog. One can go as deep as they want with this, even to the point of saying, it was just a person.  Only a person who is sensitive to other will be able to console them and even direct them, but if that sensitivity is absent, it will be an impossible connection for both parties involved, so read people, see where they're coming from, and see if you want to listen, or ignore. but to get them to see your point of view, and agree, you're going to need more than good luck with that. 

I asked for a partial refound and got offered some ProChannel Tools as a form of compensation:
 
 This is what I wrote:


"I just read your anouncement about ceasing development of Cakewalk Sonar and I can't help but I feel ripped off. I bought the yearly subscription on 2/6/2016, which would have bought me updates until February 2017, but I bought lifetime subscriptions 6/9/2016 for the same price of an yearly subscription - just to find out now that I got only eight more months of subscription than I already paid for. How will you ensure I still can use my bought products in the future if I need to transfer them to a new PC? Is there going to be a refound for the missning 4 months of updates? "
 
And this was their response:
"My apologies for the delays and any headaches. Our activation, download and authorization services will remain up indefinitely so that you can continue download and installing SONAR on your future computers.
I'm not able to refund purchases past 90 days however I can set you up with some ProChannel modules that you can find in your account now. They don't all installed with Command Center so some of the installers you will need to grab from our site.
Thank you for all your support over the years and keep making music!"
 
I would have prefered to be able to get back to the subscription model if that meant they would keep on developing the software, but it is what it is.
 

luizvitor89
With the very sad announcement about Cakewalk development will no longer be made.

Have any news for who is Platinum Lifetime holders?

Some compensation or something like that. (Cakewalk DLC's or 3rd party software partner)

Because I believed in Cakewalk, in Sonar. And I still believe!

I will continue to use as long as the operating system allows.

 
Please read the information posted on the Cakewalk question and answers page regarding your questions:
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2016000087/Gibson-Cakewalk-Announcement-FAQ
 

I'm hoping for some entity to step in and take this ship and pilot it the right way.  A lot of ready to go and loyal users are waiting and hoping for that.

frankjcc
Doesn't matter if it's a piece of software, or your house burned down and you didn't have insurance, or your dog got hit by a car, when you lose something that was yours it's going to hurt.  Some people don't care about dogs and say it was just a dog. One can go as deep as they want with this, even to the point of saying, it was just a person.  Only a person who is sensitive to other will be able to console them and even direct them, but if that sensitivity is absent, it will be an impossible connection for both parties involved, so read people, see where they're coming from, and see if you want to listen, or ignore. but to get them to see your point of view, and agree, you're going to need more than good luck with that. 

Ditto.

PS I've spent more on our dogs than all the software I own, including complete MS Office for 20 yrs, many others, through the years.
Heck, more than my first couple cars.
Multiple thousands in 30 years. Money well spent though. 😊.

stratman70

Leee
You know, when my late wife was planning to divorce me ten years ago, I was flooded with well-meaning advice from friends, family, and people I barely knew.  And if I followed some of the advice that was offered, I would have made the situation 10 times worse for myself.   Because what was happening was people were giving me advice through their own perspective and experiences, most of which didn't apply to me.

The same thing is happening here, right now.   EVERYONE'S situation is different.  We have a range of Sonar users that are hobbyists all the way to professionals who use Sonar to make a living.  
I ran into a guy on a Facebook Cakewalk group who claimed that "anyone moving to a different DAW was never a true dedicated Cakewalk user", and that anyone "jumping ship" is a traitor.  He continued to respond that only good studio engineers and producers would know how to fix any problems Sonar might encounter in the future.

That's an example of the most ludicrous, self-centered opinion I've read so far. 
The bottom line is, each individual Cakewalk user must decide for themselves what is the best course of action.
It's okay to ask questions and give solicited advice about various options, but by NO means should one solution be applied to every single Sonar user.  And certainly no one should stand in judgement of choices being made that differ than their own.

If you want to try and get a refund, then good luck to you.  But trying to incite a lynch mob against Cakewalk or Gibson is a total waste of time.  Especially during these times where there is so much injustice in the world, you have to pick and choose your fights very carefully.   We're faced with an unexpected loss.  A loss that is very emotional that brings up feelings of losing a loved one or best friend.  A loss that could mean personal financial losses.  And a loss that is something that is almost totally out of our control.  

Do what you need to do.  If writing a letter or sending an email to Gibson or Cakewalk, relaying your feelings or requests, then do that.  But don't expect everyone to fall in line behind you just because YOU think it's what we should be doing.  Every single person has a different situation that calls for different solutions.  Once we realize that, it should eliminate a lot of the useless negativity that is flooding these forums and user groups.
 

True and by the same token, I am tired of the people just trashing Plat and getting down on others , like me, who are staying with Sonar.
Works both ways, you showed one side only. But a good post.

stratman70

Leee
You know, when my late wife was planning to divorce me ten years ago, I was flooded with well-meaning advice from friends, family, and people I barely knew.  And if I followed some of the advice that was offered, I would have made the situation 10 times worse for myself.   Because what was happening was people were giving me advice through their own perspective and experiences, most of which didn't apply to me.

The same thing is happening here, right now.   EVERYONE'S situation is different.  We have a range of Sonar users that are hobbyists all the way to professionals who use Sonar to make a living.   
I ran into a guy on a Facebook Cakewalk group who claimed that "anyone moving to a different DAW was never a true dedicated Cakewalk user", and that anyone "jumping ship" is a traitor.  He continued to respond that only good studio engineers and producers would know how to fix any problems Sonar might encounter in the future.

That's an example of the most ludicrous, self-centered opinion I've read so far.  
The bottom line is, each individual Cakewalk user must decide for themselves what is the best course of action.
It's okay to ask questions and give solicited advice about various options, but by NO means should one solution be applied to every single Sonar user.  And certainly no one should stand in judgement of choices being made that differ than their own.

If you want to try and get a refund, then good luck to you.  But trying to incite a lynch mob against Cakewalk or Gibson is a total waste of time.  Especially during these times where there is so much injustice in the world, you have to pick and choose your fights very carefully.   We're faced with an unexpected loss.  A loss that is very emotional that brings up feelings of losing a loved one or best friend.  A loss that could mean personal financial losses.  And a loss that is something that is almost totally out of our control.   

Do what you need to do.  If writing a letter or sending an email to Gibson or Cakewalk, relaying your feelings or requests, then do that.  But don't expect everyone to fall in line behind you just because YOU think it's what we should be doing.  Every single person has a different situation that calls for different solutions.  Once we realize that, it should eliminate a lot of the useless negativity that is flooding these forums and user groups.
 

True and by the same token, I am tired of the people just trashing Plat and getting down on others , like me, who are staying with Sonar.
Works both ways, you showed one side only. But a good post.

So this is your comment 3 weeks ago Stratman70:


Re: Cakewalk Announcement 3 weeks ago (permalink)☄ Helpful

anxiousmofo
It would be nice if Cakewalk users boycotted Gibson from here on out, to give them some extra help easing into that grave they've so capably dug for their brand.

STRATMAN70 SAYS : "I agree. Been here since CWPA 6-late 80's, early 90's I guess, who knows. "
Original link to a this and few of your previous comments
 
 
 
And now you have appointed yourself defender of what you see as people trashing Plat. When in reality no one was really trashing Plat., it was mostly commentary on the way that the cakewalk business handled (or didn't handle) this situation.
You're entitled to your opinion, and so is everyone else<.
Just try to lay off your "advice" on people not giving "advice".
By the way, you have also been slinging around the word troll (to a few members), referring to people who have been around the forum for years and have contributed to the forum.
 
Sincerely and respectfully as possible,
Kingsmix