• SONAR
  • Copy, Paste, Split MADNESS!!!!!!! (p.3)
2017/05/23 14:05:28
Slugbaby
chuckebaby
 
good point.
I've look for alternatives in the past (if just for certain things like editing, exc) but somehow find myself back here in Sonar because, while it isn't perfect, it does what I want it to. ...



I think that's an important thing to mention - DAWs are usually designed to appeal to the masses, so they will each have benefits and drawbacks for us depending on our workflows and plans.  I find myself using Sonar because it fits better; the downsides and flaws don't really affect me, while I appreciate what it DOES provide.
Then again, 90% of my personal recording has been done with CW products, so my workflows have evolved with heavy Sonar influence.   
I try other DAWs, and can't get past the learning curve.
2017/05/24 14:49:28
konradh
This may not be the place for yet another Pro Tools v Cakewalk thing, but I will say the one thing that troubles me as a long-time Cakewalk user, is how many products list their compatibility as Pro Tools, Logic Pro, Cubase, Studio One, Ableton, etc. but no Sonar.
 
Sonar is conspicuously absent from a lot of the lists, and I am not sure why.  Surely there is a large user base.  Is the architecture radically different?  Is Cakewalk hard to work with?
 
So far, no product I needed urgently had this problem, but it is odd.
2017/05/24 15:22:07
scook
konradh
This may not be the place for yet another Pro Tools v Cakewalk thing

you are right about that.
2017/05/24 16:52:50
brconflict
konradh
This may not be the place for yet another Pro Tools v Cakewalk thing, but I will say the one thing that troubles me as a long-time Cakewalk user, is how many products list their compatibility as Pro Tools, Logic Pro, Cubase, Studio One, Ableton, etc. but no Sonar.
 
Sonar is conspicuously absent from a lot of the lists, and I am not sure why.  Surely there is a large user base.  Is the architecture radically different?  Is Cakewalk hard to work with?
 
So far, no product I needed urgently had this problem, but it is odd.


Sadly, at least in the Nashville area, the industry is still clinging to Macs with white-knuckled fists and foaming mouths. I think Windows 10 and the super high-performing hardware available is all working hard to perhaps change that. Until they succeed the reality is, what people are taught on or exposed to in studios tends to remain the hard-core standard. I've not seen one person in this area at any studio use Windows, other than me.

I was at a Waves SoundGrid demo last night, and one thing echoed, as much as presenters wanted to beat up on PT.
Most studios just don't have anything else, aside from Logic. If you produce a song or album in another DAW, and you want to bring it to a studio to mix or add to, get ready for mass exporting/importing work.

Waves came up with a brilliant solution to that, where, you can simply use SoundGrid to create output and input audio interfaces on two different types of DAWs simultaneously. You can export audio in real time from one (Ableton, for example), and have a PT rig recording that output (as its own input), not even aware the audio is coming from another DAW. However, the theme remained that this was necessary because the at-home producer uses different DAW's, but studios use PT.

Obviously, this can all be argued, but several DAW's were mentioned a few times during the demo, but there was absolutely no mention or even hint of Sonar the whole time I was there.

Sonar has serious capability, and perhaps adaptability to pretty much anything useful out there. They're just foreshadowed by the foray of Mac-clingers, unfortunately.
2017/05/24 17:58:33
Joe_A
I've been copying/pasting for fifteen years and never had this happen.
2017/05/25 21:21:57
williamcopper
Lots of reasonable and unreasonable answers above.   One thing that I didn't see, which might contribute to the difference between those who see errors in paste and those who don't:   CUT in Sonar is NOT the same as COPY.   A cut is going to change the selection range, while a copy will not.   Imo a lot of the paste difficulties can be traced to this difference.  
2017/05/25 22:32:25
brconflict
williamcopper
A cut is going to change the selection range, while a copy will not.


What do you mean by changing the selection range?
2017/05/25 22:44:26
John T
chuckebaby
This guy never wanted to ask for help, he wanted to leave with the ole dramatic exit.
He asked the same thing a year or so ago. I tried answering him. With his 10 years of experience he doesn't know the correct terminology ... http://forum.cakewalk.com/MASSIVE-copies-when-using-snip-edit-m3514537.aspx
saying the scissor tool is not working ?

Ha! I saw this thread, and I don't know why, but I remembered that previous thread. I always figure, if people can't be bothered to come back and read replies and talk over a thing, they really can't be helped, so there's no point bothering.
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