• SONAR
  • Discontinuing the EZine for 2017 (p.12)
2017/02/08 02:01:52
mudgel
Definitely more specific Sonar techniques.
A mix competition. Kudos could be a prize rather some material object.
A mix could be a regular part.
There's plenty of material on the forums to provide one set of stems each month.

As to the negativity to my idea, well that's just what it is; negativity.

Please don't predict an outcome before you've had a chance to do the work. In any case Craig, this post was really not aimed at you exclusively. Perhaps we don't all want to be consumers of your work alone. Perhaps it would be more reflective of the membership if others were more involved too.

It's easy to say that it will fail and not try.
2017/02/08 08:20:54
subtlearts
Anderton
No, it's not the malcontents who are pushing me into the background. This forum remains someplace where if I was filthy rich, I'd fly all the regulars to a party. That would include you 



You mean publishing that e-zine didn't make you filthy rich yet? I'm mystified. 
 
Anyway let me add my voice to the litany of thanks. I'm also happy I got to contribute to one of them, even if I didn't always read them all cover to cover (life is busy and full of distractions). It seemed like a good concept, and added value to the updates, but I'm sure you'll find *something* to do with all the spare time you're suddenly faced with... and if you do get filthy rich from whatever it is, I'm definitely looking forward to that party! 
2017/02/08 09:56:03
mudgel
So Craig: will you fly Australian residents to US for the party?
2017/02/08 10:42:10
Anderton
mudgel
Please don't predict an outcome before you've had a chance to do the work. In any case Craig, this post was really not aimed at you exclusively. Perhaps we don't all want to be consumers of your work alone. Perhaps it would be more reflective of the membership if others were more involved too.

It's easy to say that it will fail and not try.



Don't misunderstand, I think what you're proposing would be good, just difficult to pull off (I have quite a bit of experience working in volunteer situations). I think it would be risky to start a monthly eZine replacement based on volunteer efforts. 
 
A more workable strategy IMHO would be to integrate community involvement a step at a time into whatever Cakewalk chooses as a replacement. A good experiment would be to ask for contributions to "Anatomy of a SONAR Project" since I assume everyone does SONAR projects. However, in the first article of that series I did solicit contributions from the community, but no one responded. Also, I tried to instigate a community-driven "Tip of the Week" in the Techniques forum but after 2+ years, there have been fewer than 30 tips, and no new tips since May 2015. 
 
So any such effort would need someone to co-ordinate it all, which I think would take quite a bit of effort. However if someone was up for doing it, that would be great.
 
 
2017/02/08 11:57:03
mudgel
It was the same when I wanted to get the Sonar utilities off the ground. There was negativity around that project but I put in the work and it happened with the communities support.

I find in these situations, getting a dialog happening is vital in finding the viability and or direction of a project. It doesn't follow that every area that I mentioned has to be produced from the beginning. It could simply start with a monthly mix or remix project. Just an example mind you of something I've frequently discussed but never pushed for the forum support to make it happen.

Anyway I'll keep talking about the general idea and see if something crystallises. Thanks Craig.
2017/02/08 11:59:54
mudgel
Btw you didn't answer my question about flying Aussies to your party. -:)
2017/02/08 13:43:46
ebibault51
Cakewalk has made remarkable efforts for international audiences. You can now use international versions and manuals (in German, French, Italian, Spanish, Russian...).
 
I have to say that replacing a pdf file by videos is a step backward for international users. It is not easy for foreigners to understand videos that are not subtitled (even in English). Would you all be able to learn SONAR with a video that would be in a foreign language? I'm not sure.
 
When you learn with a pdf, you can have a short break and search for this word that you don't understand. When you watch a video, you sometimes don't understand the word and therefore cannot search for it.
2017/02/08 13:50:14
scook
ebibault51
 It is not easy for foreigners to understand videos

Play them slower and turn up the volume (do I need a smiley here?)
2017/02/08 16:59:34
telecharge
I understood the videos to be supplement, not a replacement.
2017/02/09 06:39:51
patm300e
mudgel
A mix competition. Kudos could be a prize rather some material object.
A mix could be a regular part.



I started one in the Techniques column...
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Mixing-Practice-m3537464.aspx
 
Did not get a lot of takers, but the ones that did do the mixes did an awesome job!
Also there are links to several projects where you can download the tracks, stems or finished project.
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