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  • Mix Recall: Do you use it? Is it reliable? (p.2)
2017/02/11 16:35:41
stxx
I am having issues where MR does not properly save and or recall UAD 2 plugins and their settings.   I posted twice here and got no responses so I can't use it until I understand a workaround or the issue is fixed
2017/02/11 16:51:33
chuckebaby
mudgel
Chuck: I remember Noel explaining how to do just that when it was first released. Could kick myself for not keeping the info. It had to do with having a 2nd project open.


 
Nice catch Mike. Thanks a bunch.
I was even considering hacking mix recall to do this (possibly changing project/scene name).
This is exactly what I've been looking for.

John
Mike this might be the one you are talking about. http://forum.cakewalk.com/Mix-Recall-across-multiple-projects-m3442977.aspx
 
Here is what I think of Mix Recall. http://forum.cakewalk.com...es-m3237877.aspx 
 




That's it John. thank you kindly sir. In this post:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3443010
 
I will probably make a back up just in case things go a little crazy.
2017/02/11 17:06:23
Anderton
I've been using it more and more, but remember, it's limited to mix recall, and does not do edit recall. If you move clips around or split them or whatever, all bets are off.
2017/02/11 17:14:57
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
It's a good feature and for me it has worked reliably in the past few months. I use it for what it's meant: mixing when arranging is done, so no shuffling clips or tracks around. Also, soft synths are converted to audio and recall of VSTi disable when I use it. This way the recall a lot quicker.
2017/02/11 17:17:25
paulo
I tried it once and it didn't really seem to be any quicker than a "save as" and then re-open the previous version, so that was that. The news that it doesn't remember any clip changes that may have been made now makes it completely pointless for me. When I first saw it, I thought that it would make it easier to A/B mixes without that time inbetween playing each one where it's easy to forget exactly how the other version sounded. 
2017/02/11 17:59:11
John
panup
John
Here is what I think of Mix Recall. http://forum.cakewalk.com...es-m3237877.aspx 
 

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EDIT: Odd. Link works from the quote but not from John's message.


Very sorry. I think its fixed now. 
2017/02/11 20:15:53
chuckebaby
paulo
I tried it once and it didn't really seem to be any quicker than a "save as" and then re-open the previous version, so that was that. The news that it doesn't remember any clip changes that may have been made now makes it completely pointless for me. When I first saw it, I thought that it would make it easier to A/B mixes without that time inbetween playing each one where it's easy to forget exactly how the other version sounded. 


that's a fair assessment.
I have also thought about this as well. also thought about what happens if cakewalk decides to do away with this feature in a few years. Will I be left with a bunch of unusable mix recall files ?
 
But like anything in Sonar, im willing to give it a shot to see if I can find the benefits.
Because right now, after recording 12 songs (a whole album) I tweak one song and have a guideline for every other song on the album. unfortunately there is no way to re apply this guideline to all the other songs, making set up time faster. Sure I could use a template and drag 30 tracks in to a project template but that defeats the purpose (id have to redo markers, tempo changes, exc).
 
But if I can get mix recall to bring up settings from a guideline project (As Mike and John have mentioned) this feature will pay for itself in one session. In your case though, I can totally see where your coming from. but like anything, maybe there is way it can be productive for you as well. I hope so man .
Peace Paulo.
 
2017/02/11 21:10:21
Anderton
paulo
I tried it once and it didn't really seem to be any quicker than a "save as" and then re-open the previous version, so that was that. The news that it doesn't remember any clip changes that may have been made now makes it completely pointless for me. When I first saw it, I thought that it would make it easier to A/B mixes without that time inbetween playing each one where it's easy to forget exactly how the other version sounded. 



I'm old enough to have worked on the first digital consoles that had mix recall, which the SONAR feature emulates. I was glad for it then, and I'm glad for it now. There are several significant advantages to Mix Recall compared to Save As.
 
  • Recall information for the entire project, or just selected tracks. So for example if you thought an early mix did the best job on the drum tracks but a later mix was better with everything else, recall the older mix only for the selected drum tracks. Or...recall only Track or only Bus automation. 
  • You can recall just the FX settings - great for when you're trying to balance EQ among tracks.
  • All the Mix information is associated with the project and accessible from within the project.
  • You can choose what to recall. If all you recall is automation, then projects load quickly. What really slows things down is if you reload samplers with big libraries - but you can tell Mix Recall not to do that.
  • Conversely, you can use that to your advantage by loading mixes with different (for example) drum module kits to hear what works best with the song.
  • You can toggle between the two most recent mixes.
  • It's easy to export all or only selected mix scenes at once. So if you've run off different versions for different people in a band, select those mixes and export them in one fell swoop. And for remixes, this is a killer feature. You can also export mixes with varying degrees of squashing and master bus compression to let the client decide what they like.
 
So I think Mix Recall is very cool. The key to getting the most out of it is understanding the Mix Recall settings options. If you don't know how those work, you might as well not use Mix Recall.
 
 
2017/02/11 21:34:04
sock monkey
I was disappointed mostly be cause it doe s not work the way a digital mixer can work on a 12 song album as Chuck has said. I used a o1v for mix down for about a decade. The big difference is on a live album once you have the settings right for song one,, you more or less have the settings right for the whole album. And any small changes can be saved for any given song.
And the other big disappointment is you can't recall mixes on the fly while your listening. So I,ve not used it since it first came out.
2017/02/11 21:58:27
Kev999
I don't really get this feature. Why is saving a mix different from saving the project. What part of a project is not part of the mix? Audio clips, midi clips, softsynths, effects, track settings, automation. What else is there?
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