2015/01/20 15:05:49
jsg
scook
jsg
 
Well, where is the "right" place?  Calling tech support?  Writing to them?  Filling out the problem reporter?  All those things are done and the bugs still do not get fixed.  


Features and Ideas is for NEW features and idea. Requesting bug fixes is neither. There  are appropriate avenues to report problems and it would appear that you know them. There is Problem Reports forum too. I understand your frustration but flooding the forum is not going to help your cause.


"Flooding the Forum"?   With one post on this forum?    Actually, fixing the bugs in the staff view IS a new idea because it's never been done before  ;>)
 
 
2015/01/20 22:53:34
TomHelvey
jsg
1.  Choose a 16th note and enter it on the staff.  Now choose a half-note and do the same.  Notice how the snap gets stuck on the smallest note value used thus far instead of following whichever note value is chosen.



I'm a bit skeptical of doing this because you may want to start a half note at 1:720. I think the only way this could work correctly is to separate note duration from the snap setting.
See: http://forum.cakewalk.com...rom-Snap-m3153472.aspx
2015/01/20 23:14:10
Kamikaze
scook
jsg
 
Well, where is the "right" place?  Calling tech support?  Writing to them?  Filling out the problem reporter?  All those things are done and the bugs still do not get fixed.  


Features and Ideas is for NEW features and idea. Requesting bug fixes is neither. There  are appropriate avenues to report problems and it would appear that you know them. There is Problem Reports forum too. I understand your frustration but flooding the forum is not going to help your cause.


Seemed to me that Seth said to put them here. In the Fix Notation thread.
2015/01/21 05:20:15
Kamikaze
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2015/01/21 07:37:26
GotMetalBoy
+1
2015/01/21 07:52:38
Kamikaze
 
 

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2015/01/21 12:48:00
jsg
TomHelvey
jsg
1.  Choose a 16th note and enter it on the staff.  Now choose a half-note and do the same.  Notice how the snap gets stuck on the smallest note value used thus far instead of following whichever note value is chosen.



I'm a bit skeptical of doing this because you may want to start a half note at 1:720. I think the only way this could work correctly is to separate note duration from the snap setting.
See: http://forum.cakewalk.com...rom-Snap-m3153472.aspx


Tom,  that's the way the staff view snap worked for many years, until X1.  If you want to start a note on a weak part of the beat, use a smaller note value and change it.  Or use the step entry method.  Or ask CW to have an option to set note duration separate from snap, which they probably won't do because they won't even fix the current bugs.
 
 
2015/01/21 14:19:51
Living Room Rocker
Excellent list, scoot!
 
Kind regards,
 
Living Room Rocker
 
P.S.  Yeah, I know who you are.
2015/01/22 02:51:03
FM
Many DAW's are really ramping up on Notation features. Steinberg has hired ex sibelius team members, Presonus has bought Notion, Reaper is getting notation view, and is very receptive to feature requests. It seems though, with regards to the Cakewalk team, we have a chicken egg problem.
Features lacking here means less notation composers. (Untapped market)
Less notation composers means the team don't consider this a priority.
 
Millions of youths around the world have classical music lessons and will appreciate a good notation editor build in.
These youths will use the best DAW for that purpose and as you can see above many DAW's are taking this seriously. Many of those youths would probably stick with that DAW because of the steep learning curve with today's daw's. Not to mention the word of mouth among people. Also if they are forced to buy expensive specialist software these people would be much more DAW mobile. i.o.w there is no daw lock in for them. And this is bad for Sonar.
 
Please Cakewalk, even though you think this should not be a priority the reality is, it is. The labor you put into this will pay off with inroads into a largely untapped market of composers in respect of Sonar. 
 
This is also true for other features regarding the EDM market.
2015/01/22 03:13:28
Kamikaze
They even advertise it a great feature for Sonar 2015, despite having no commitment to dealing with bugs that have existed year after year after year across multiple versions of the Sonar. If this was any other aspect of the DAW, it wouldn't be acceptable, but for some reason this neglect is tolerated.
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Features
 
Explore Guitar Features in SONAR

"Chord Chart & Tab
 
Notate, compose, or print music with standard notation staff view and guitar tab - perfect for guitar students and teachers"
 
Explore Songwriting Features in SONAR

"Compose!

Score your music with SONAR’s integrated staff view - ideal for songwriters and composers"
 
 
 
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