No notation fixes!

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You know it would not be so bad if you could rewire a notation software so that notation you create (say thru midi) would transfer into Sonar.
 
you can create a midi file from one to the other, but the busy work and work flow is just too much.
 
It should not be that difficult.
 
 

Cakewalk has plenty of pride in their craftsmanship. I don't agree with your feelings on that. In my opinion, SONAR excels as an audio and MIDI editor; a DAW which is what SONAR is. I realize that SONAR may not have some notation features that some other DAWS may have, but there are 3rd party products or there that specialize in that area. I know, SONAR can't be everything for everyone and it can't make everyone happy all the time. But all in all, it's quite a package with exceptional value. Maybe they will get around to notation later on. I hope they do for people like you. But for now, I am happy they are concentrating on the core of being a audio and MIDI recorder/editor/mixer.

No shirt, no shoes, No staff view improvements.

I would actually prefer sibelius for instance to be integrated into sonar than have the current staff view as I can't see it ever happening . Don't even know if that's possible but hey, it's a dream. Rewire doesn't work in the way it's needed to.

Anderton

Jimbo 88
You know it would not be so bad if you could rewire a notation software so that notation you create (say thru midi) would transfer into Sonar.

Don't people do that already with Notion or some other program?
 
And FWIW, the last time this was brought I'm pretty sure someone from Cakewalk said it was not a priority for the next update.

Edit:  Oh man - in the time it took me to write this, Bill Jackson chimes in and has the audacity to give me hope.  Damn you.  
 
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"not a priority for the next update" - does that mean the about-to-be-released Sonar 2015 we are being presented with this month?  Or over the next 12 months?  Or ever?
 
Not only is it not a priority, these limitations are still present in the upcoming offering:
 
- Triplets must occur in full sets of three.
- All three steps in a triplet must be notes (no rests) of the same basic duration.
- There can be no ties in or out of, or within the triplet.
 
Wow.  You'd think they could have thrown us a bone - like Ben Staton's note duration buttons in the SV view itself.
 
R***** looks like it will be getting a MIDI notation editor - and that was primarily an audio DAW from the beginning.  Granted, it probably won't be as good as our beloved, slightly crippled SV, but it is a new offering to customers who would like to edit MIDI with notation.
 
 
And I was sincerely hoping we would see some sort of Chord Pad / Track functionality.  Who knows, maybe in the next 12 months - but only in the Platinum version 
 
I think I've got more than I need for now in X3e Pro.  
 
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I do appreciate the article you wrote about creating a pool of chord snippets and associating them to MIDI keys - that will definitely inspire creativity.  I'm planning to something similar with the Matrix view.
 
And if can some day afford to get Melodyne Editor, I'd love to try to modify off the shelf keyboard audio loops.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
We frequently (annuallyish) investigate Staff View improvements, or even an overhaul. It's not "dead" nor "abandoned." It has just been "deferred" due to other priorities that impact a larger group of customers. Don't lose hope. We understand there is room for improvement and intend to tackle it eventually. Our new release model will allow us to budget time and resources more easily, so it's more realistic now than it has been in years. Thanks for being patient.

Wow - I feel like weeping and spending money.  

 
R***** looks like it will be getting a MIDI notation editor - and that was primarily an audio DAW from the beginning.  Granted, it probably won't be as good as our beloved, slightly crippled SV, but it is a new offering to customers who would like to edit MIDI with notation.
 

Holy crap.  I just fell off my chair - NEVER though R***** would spend 1 min on staff.
 

 
 

I believe there used to be a virtual midi app that could link a notation editor and DAW together...back in the 32 bit xp days...So  using Sibelius or other to hook up to a Daw, and when making the right perf setup, whenever you want to edit notes in opening the editor in the Daw, it would open up the notation software for you , all nice and buggy like....LOL ..but I haven't found it for, or sought it out for 64 bit os, as I feel it is better to do it all in Sibelius ...make a midi file and save that, and import...add the vst instruments......and go back and forth from there...less bugs.

Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
In the spirit of being totally honest, though... I will admit that there are no current developments to the Staff View in progress.

i mean this with all sincere honesty and no disrespect to cakewalk intended; can it be fixed?....

In answer to an earlier post: It is indeed possible to rewire sonar to a Notation program and then redirect the midi or the audio from the notation program back into sonar. 
 
I bought into Notion for that and it worked ok. It limitation at the time was it only used 44.1k audio and I work in 48K. Non the less I was able to bounce the audio to a 44.1 file and import it into Notion and then export the audio from Notion and then import back into Sonar.
 
A bit clumsy but it worked. 
 
The new version, Notion 5, supports 48k but I have been reluctant to jump on it since most my work is not with notation and not ready to deal with Presonus yet.

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musichoo
Can Notion 5 send MIDI into Sonar X3 PE by rewire? I own both but not aware of this capability.

No, rewire doesn't work that way, it's MIDI in audio out. I would have grabbed a 3rd party notation tool a long time ago if it could do that.