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MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
Check out the MP3 functionality in the Adaptive Limiter - you can preview what the MP3 will sound like at different bit rates, as well as audition what's taken out during the data omission process (which is pretty revealing). It's almost like having an extra application built in to the Adaptive Limiter.
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 19:06:02
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Ozone says welcome to 2015.
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 19:09:03
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I agree, Awesome feature to have now included free in this update.
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 19:23:05
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I agree, Awesome feature to have now included free in this update.
Wait...... Sonar is free now ? Damn it, I only went and paid for mine. Typical. Slinky editing btw 
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 19:49:11
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Anderton
Check out the MP3 functionality in the Adaptive Limiter - you can preview what the MP3 will sound like at different bit rates, as well as audition what's taken out during the data omission process (which is pretty revealing). It's almost like having an extra application built in to the Adaptive Limiter.
not having installed pre-2017.05 nor seen pictures posted ... is the limiter a VST or ProChannel plug ... or either?
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 19:51:05
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☄ Helpfulby backwoods 2017/05/27 23:34:46
It looks and works like the L-Phase Series. It is not a PC module. Here is an image of it 
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 20:10:00
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☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2017/05/28 16:19:02
paulo
Ozone says welcome to 2015.
So did you go to the iZotope forums when Ozone came out and say "Sonnox says welcome to 2011"? Oh wait - iZotope doesn't have a forum where people can post irrelevant comments on their products. Never mind. Anyway, I think it will be highly educational for people who didn't spend $250 on Ozone or $400 on the Sonnox Pro-Codec to have a free way of finding out what the MP3 algorithm discards. Even 320k bps throws away a lot of the high-frequency transients.
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 20:56:28
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paulo
Ozone says welcome to 2015.
So did you go to the iZotope forums when Ozone came out and say "Sonnox says welcome to 2011"? Oh wait - iZotope doesn't have a forum where people can post irrelevant comments on their products. Never mind.
Anyway, I think it will be highly educational for people who didn't spend $250 on Ozone or $400 on the Sonnox Pro-Codec to have a free way of finding out what the MP3 algorithm discards. Even 320k bps throws away a lot of the high-frequency transients.
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 20:58:06
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☄ Helpfulby Skyline_UK 2017/05/30 08:06:18
Try inserting Ozone on 10 tracks and buses just to see the MP3 preview and see what it does to your performance :)
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 21:04:13
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Try inserting Ozone on 10 tracks and buses just to see the MP3 preview and see what it does to your performance :)
Well, you're no doubt way more cleverer and technical than me Noel, but why would I want to preview the potential mp3 rendering of ten individual tracks and buses?
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 21:27:51
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Try inserting Ozone on 10 tracks and buses just to see the MP3 preview and see what it does to your performance :)
Well, you're no doubt way more cleverer and technical than me Noel, but why would I want to preview the potential mp3 rendering of ten individual tracks and buses?
You gonna be okay? ;-)
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 21:32:13
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This limiter is fab 👍 and it's free . I've just skimmed through the interface
and it has what's needed from a limiter .
Especially like that it has "match loudness input"and K metering capability .
Sounds transparent too .
Thank you , Cakewalk :-)
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 21:47:37
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Did the update to my Platinum but I don't find any Adaptive Limiter. ??
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 21:49:09
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I guess this in some update I don't have access to as yet. I read about the lossy sound preview codecs. Used to have the one for Minidisc as well.
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 21:52:59
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 21:58:15
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/27 22:28:17
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☄ Helpfulby Starise 2017/05/29 22:23:49
I opened this thread just after finding out first hand how cool the new Adaptive Limiter is, it's got quite a few surprises in it, especially for such a simple, straight forward plugin. I like the nicely ordered presets, the "Match Input Loudness" feature for the bypass A/B switch, and the K and LUFS metering. And yes, the Dither and MP3 (and artifacts) emulator is quite useful too.
I was expecting responses similar to mine, but forgot that every forum has it's......shall we say "detractors".
BTW, I own Ozone 7, and Noel is absolutely correct. It sounds great but it's an intense memory hog.
With the new Adaptive Limiter, I can have it active on my master bus and still track new instruments, with no latency while playing. If it was Ozone, I'd have to disable it first.
I love Ozone, it has been my "go-to" mastering suite. But I tell you, if I throw in a (SPlat included) EQ, reverb, and perhaps some compression, I'll get results just as good as Ozone (with half the ram usage). But I digress....Three Cheers to the Bakers for this excellent update. The Limiter and Ripple Editing make me so happy that I purchased the Lifetime Subscription.
This update alone is almost worth the price of admission.
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/28 02:13:09
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And Paulo is blocked!  Ah.. much better..!
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/28 02:28:55
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I haven't tried the pre-release yet and may have to wait for the full release, but this does sound very cool. Thank you, Cake bakers!
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/28 03:25:59
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/28 12:39:41
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Try inserting Ozone on 10 tracks and buses just to see the MP3 preview and see what it does to your performance :)
Well, you're no doubt way more cleverer and technical than me Noel, but why would I want to preview the potential mp3 rendering of ten individual tracks and buses?
You're missing the point of what Noel was saying. Obviously, you wouldn't preview / insert the plugin on 10 individual tracks to preview the potential mp3 rendering. The point is that Ozone would hog all the memory in that scenario, causing extreme latency, while the Adaptive Limiter would not. I'm pretty sure you understood that to begin with. No one is impressed with your wise-a$$ replies, talking down to people, or your constant negative comments about Cakewalk products. If you don't contribute in a positive, constructive way, then there's no point in reading any of your posts (even the few that are honestly trying to be helpful).
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/28 16:07:59
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☄ Helpfulby siordanescu 2017/05/28 16:24:07
Actually there is a use case for checking MP3 encoding on tracks or buses. MP3 tends to affect certain frequencies or instruments more noticeably. So having the ability to audition a drum bus or a track to see if the sizzle of the ride cymbal or the timbre of a piano has been compromised is very useful. Then you can play with the encoding to see at what point the problem goes away for that track or bus.
Having it in a low CPU plugin is a plus for sure.
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/28 16:32:53
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Surely it's a very useful tool. I particularly like histogram display and metering options. Thanks Bakers!
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/28 16:57:44
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Well, you're no doubt way more cleverer and technical than me...
You guys are too hard on Paulo. The above admission proves he's both humble and honest.
 All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/28 17:53:50
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I have never minded shelling out for external plugins to fill out specific needs Sonar doesn't cover. But if, two years ago, Sonar had had everything it does today, I probably would've saved most of my money. Drum replacer, vocal sync, LP EQ/MB and now the adaptive limiter. Even the case for Melodyne can be made though I upgraded it. Splat has been good.
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/28 18:31:31
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paulo
Well, you're no doubt way more cleverer and technical than me...
You guys are too hard on Paulo. The above admission proves he's both humble and honest.
That got me ROTFLMAO! 
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/28 20:22:19
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Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Actually there is a use case for checking MP3 encoding on tracks or buses. MP3 tends to affect certain frequencies or instruments more noticeably. So having the ability to audition a drum bus or a track to see if the sizzle of the ride cymbal or the timbre of a piano has been compromised is very useful. Then you can play with the encoding to see at what point the problem goes away for that track or bus.
Having it in a low CPU plugin is a plus for sure.
I stand corrected. I probably would be too lazy to listen to how much MP3 artifacts are produced on each individual track. I can hear from the master bus the general sounds that produce artifacts. But it's nice to know I have that option with the new Adaptive Limiter! And unless I missed it, I don't even think that Ozone 7 has a setting just to hear MP3 artifacts solo'd. It's quite a handy tool, especially when you upload your music to various music sites (like SoundClick), who encodes your music to ridiculously low MP3 settings.
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/29 18:56:58
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Ozone says welcome to 2015.
So did you go to the iZotope forums when Ozone came out and say "Sonnox says welcome to 2011"? Oh wait - iZotope doesn't have a forum where people can post irrelevant comments on their products. Never mind.
Anyway, I think it will be highly educational for people who didn't spend $250 on Ozone or $400 on the Sonnox Pro-Codec to have a free way of finding out what the MP3 algorithm discards. Even 320k bps throws away a lot of the high-frequency transients.
If you're trying to make a point, it's lost on me other than if you're comparing yourself to a wind-up toy. Which come to think of it, makes sense.
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/29 19:06:11
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Ozone says welcome to 2015.
So did you go to the iZotope forums when Ozone came out and say "Sonnox says welcome to 2011"? Oh wait - iZotope doesn't have a forum where people can post irrelevant comments on their products. Never mind.
Anyway, I think it will be highly educational for people who didn't spend $250 on Ozone or $400 on the Sonnox Pro-Codec to have a free way of finding out what the MP3 algorithm discards. Even 320k bps throws away a lot of the high-frequency transients.
If you're trying to make a point, it's lost on me other than if you're comparing yourself to a wind-up toy. Which come to think of it, makes sense.
Now that's funny.
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Re: MP3 Preview in the Adaptive Limiter - Way Cool
2017/05/29 21:00:00
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This looks like a good addition to Sonar.
I like iZotope Ozone a lot as well, but not everyone has Ozone (and it's expensive).
It's the sign of a good idea if a similar feature is implemented by several companies. So I'm pleased to see Cakewalk add this and I'll be using it.
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