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MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP! <<<SOLVED AFTER DRINKING>>>
Check out the video , All I wanna do is drag my clips to the whole note 1-1 ect... I have it set up as per how tech support says I should have, I just got off the phone with support and he said he hasn't heard of this , So That tells me that it won't be fixed, or Im not doing something correct, If you notice in the video the lines were snapping but the clips were not snapping, As you can see I have snap active and set to snap to and set as measure. As per support. You can clearly see it's not snapping .. What am I doing wrong!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dr94Fox2_8
post edited by djjhart@aol.com - 2011/01/10 18:46:39
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 14:37:39
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Check out the video , All I wanna do is drag my clips to the whole note 1-1 ect... I have it set up as per how tech support says I should have, I just got off the phone with support and he said he hasn't heard of this , So That tells me that it won't be fixed, or Im not doing something correct, If you notice in the video the lines were snapping but the clips were not snapping, As you can see I have snap active and set to snap to and set as measure. As per support. You can clearly see it's not snapping .. What am I doing wrong!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dr94Fox2_8
John, Did you try snap by instead of snap to? And did you change or try to change the 'magnetic' strength setting? Also - if you look at the properties for the clip, what is the exact "starting time" ? That may tell us something.
post edited by ba_midi - 2011/01/10 17:24:47
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 14:37:48
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This behavior happens when dragging clips too , and not just slip dragging, if Im at different zooms while arranging I not sure where the clip lands sometimes..
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 14:38:23
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BTW, I personally almost never use "measure" as my snap setting. I use Whole. It gives more flexibility as to where you want a clip to "land'.
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 14:46:20
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Mine acts the same as yours in the video. It may have to do with magnectic strength mine only jumps to measure within a beat or so of the measure. Also I have to make sure all the property settings are set the same and then they work.
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 14:46:56
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Yep tried snap by and I have messed with the magnetic strength no luck , but it suppose to be set off for what Im doing there.. Do you see the white lines , There snapping to the where it should but the clip dosen't ..
Also - if you look at the properties for the clip, what is the exact "starting time" ? That may tell us something.
Its set to 1:56.00 original time
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 14:50:16
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Billy I was using whole note too , but when I called support he told me not to magnetic strength have it set to snap to and set to measure and when you roll out it will go to the whole note. It was never this hard in 8.5.
Im about to have a sugar induced fit over this.
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 14:50:22
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Yep tried snap by and I have messed with the magnetic strength no luck , but it suppose to be set off for what Im doing there.. Do you see the white lines , There snapping to the where it should but the clip dosen't ..
Also - if you look at the properties for the clip, what is the exact "starting time" ? That may tell us something.
Its set to 1:56.00 original time
TO be honest, I couldn't really make out what you were "trying to do" in that video. I think you were trying to slip edit the left side of the groove-clipped clip, right? IF SO _ I would ungroove clip it first to see how it looks as a stand alone clip. Make sure the clip "boundaries" are good. I've seen situations where there was some dead space at the start of a clip (which sometimes is proper and sometimes not). But here's a trick that MIGHT help in this case: Ungroove clip the clip. Have your snap set to Whole (no mag strength). Slip edit the left side out, then split the clip at the beat boundary and delete the left side leftover. Now groove clip the clip again. See if it lets you do what you want at that point. Turn on AIM Assist ... it's helpful ;)
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 15:04:06
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All I wanted to do was roll the clip back a few bars, and have it start on the 1. Even if I grab the whole clip and try to move it wont snap to the whole, Let me rephrase I can get to snap on the whole note it will land there if I use aim assist and visually see the numbers and stop it there, but thats not what I should have to do, I can work around it , but should I have to?
I cant use snap correctly , I can't shutdown x1 without crashing, I can't use Audio Snap, I can't use X1a ,HMMMM why did I pay $100 for this upgrade? I'm at my boiling point right now..
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 15:38:03
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Didn't it snap to measure at about 25 secs into video? On a side note, in Sonar 7 I usually can get snap to work but often not the first time I start slip editing the end of a clip. I usually have to slip edit it twice before snaping seems to work correctly.
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 16:19:28
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WDI It will snap but not as it should in this case I have to use Aim assist to make sure were it lands. Its something thats aggravating me to death.
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 16:33:48
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Just watched your vid.
This is how snap works with the magnetic strength setting on.
Notice at :25 it snaps to the measure.
If you turn magnetic strength off it will only snap to the measure with no dragging between.
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 16:37:58
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RDL I have the Magnetic strength off ...
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 16:49:17
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All I wanted to do was roll the clip back a few bars, and have it start on the 1. Even if I grab the whole clip and try to move it wont snap to the whole, Let me rephrase I can get to snap on the whole note it will land there if I use aim assist and visually see the numbers and stop it there, but thats not what I should have to do, I can work around it , but should I have to?
I cant use snap correctly , I can't shutdown x1 without crashing, I can't use Audio Snap, I can't use X1a ,HMMMM why did I pay $100 for this upgrade? I'm at my boiling point right now..
John, If it's that rough, don't drive yourself crazy. Do what I've done. Go back to 8.5.3 until they release a bug fix patch. Just pretend it wasn't released yet ;) No bull. Report whatever bugs you want to report and get back to working without the headaches _for now_. You know they'll fix a lot of this stuff soon, but you don't have to suffer until then.
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 16:51:57
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Hi dj,
It does seem as if the video is not illustrating your point clearly enough for me to understand the actual circumstance.
I say this is the spirit of trying to be helpful.
Perhaps if you had aim assist off it would be more evident what is happening because at the moment it sort of seems as if it is working properly with the aim assist on.
I have not noticed an inability to snap to measure on my system. I use snap to measure very frequently.
I wish I had a better suggestion.
Good luck.
best regards,
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 17:10:28
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djjhart, I know this doesn't help since I'm running Sonar 7 still but I tied verifying how SP7 behaves when setting megnetic strength to off and you are correct, the slip points should only jump to your snap settings.
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 17:31:55
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Im not going pull my hair out anymore, I'm taking your advice Billy, I will wait for x1b see whats going on .. I sure I have come to the end with Cakewalk , I dont see this issue coming up , so its either me or my setup, I dont think x1b will address this so I will continue to learn Abelton. Oh well.. THanks GUYs For ALL your help here.. Its Been a pleasure , chatting with you all... John
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 17:34:28
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Good Luck John.
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 17:36:20
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Ok, I have this problem. Snap setting don't seem to help, it also does this in the PRV(inline or other) and it's driving me batty. I have to go to clip/note properties and make the adjustments.
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 18:02:09
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 18:03:56
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Thanks Mike... I Appreciate your help.. Hopefully X1b sorts out alot of issues, I though X1 was awesome but the more time behind the wheel I'm finding oddities and issue's that were just never there before. Sorry for my rants .
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 18:05:30
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 18:10:32
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Im not going pull my hair out anymore, I'm taking your advice Billy, I will wait for x1b see whats going on .. I sure I have come to the end with Cakewalk , I dont see this issue coming up , so its either me or my setup, I dont think x1b will address this so I will continue to learn Abelton. Oh well.. THanks GUYs For ALL your help here.. Its Been a pleasure , chatting with you all... John
Hang on John.... I ain't lettin' you outta here that easy LOL. Seriously - think about this: In the past we've seen a LOT of bugs addressed that some/most users didn't even know about until the "Fixed Bug List" was posted. So I personally wouldn't discard the fact the the Bakers and the QA team will find things whether we do or not. They know what's under the hood a lot better than we do. And, at the moment you're just feeling ticked off because anytime our flow or work or creative process is inhibited, we get realllll upset. That's normal, no? But I still don't think the answer is to run way from anything. Back down from the forum a bit might help LOL. It does me ;) But you've been a tremendously helpful forumite and I just wouldn't wanna see you not be around. Just go back to 8.x and get your work/music done and come back to X1 when things look better. Keep it simple :) But hang around will ya? Let's all see what X1b does for us. CW can make this happen, I'll bet on that. Oh, and learning Ableton Live more isn't a bad idea (I like Live a lot as you know); anything we do to expand our knowledge and tools can only be good. AND learning Live actually gave me more ideas to use Sonar in different ways too. SO it's good. /me glues you here :P
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 18:14:05
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I think this is what djjhart was expecting to happen when setting magnetic strength off...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8K28xVlDz4
Good video. Whether it's what John (DJ) meant or not, I don't know - but you are using the same settings I do in 8.5.3. That may not work the same in X1 (I don't know for sure at the moment), but it should.
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 18:16:18
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Someone should verify for sure in X1 if it works correctly and if not submit a bug report. I'm sure I will want to upgrade one of these days. That's why I pay attention to the X1 forum. I like a lot of what they did with X1 but you guys actually using it give the best feedback.
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2011/01/10 18:29:16
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 Goosh Thanks Billy for the kind words.. Well hopefully they sort it out.. bad day like you said when something goes wrong when your sure of it , you get pissed , I was hoping I was forgetting something. But when support said there not seeing this problem , I got the pit . And conclusions are running wild in my head as too I'm an idiot , how can I not arrange my clips in a proficient way after so many years , what is wrong with me, I about to go back to my ensonic eps sequencer LOL aaa no joking.. I'm going to pour myself some Jameson right about now should make the day better.. :) !!
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 18:32:57
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Someone should verify for sure in X1 if it works correctly and if not submit a bug report. I'm sure I will want to upgrade one of these days. That's why I pay attention to the X1 forum. I like a lot of what they did with X1 but you guys actually using it give the best feedback.
Apparently people are having different results. Your vid of S7 is exactly how snap in X1 works for me.
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2011/01/10 18:43:21
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Goosh Thanks Billy for the kind words.. Well hopefully they sort it out.. bad day like you said when something goes wrong when your sure of it , you get pissed , I was hoping I was forgetting something. But when support said there not seeing this problem , I got the pit . And conclusions are running wild in my head as too I'm an idiot , how can I not arrange my clips in a proficient way after so many years , what is wrong with me, I about to go back to my ensonic eps sequencer LOL aaa no joking.. I'm going to pour myself some Jameson right about now should make the day better.. :) !!
John, You might remember that during the first 2 or 3 weeks of X1's release, I was a bit peaved too. I ran into some problems that some others did not. I personally was convinced that as time went on, more issues would start to bubble up- as more people would have used it more. I was using it 8 hours or more almost every day for weeks. And the things I ran into got me a bit nuts too. We're just human, my friend. And I think it would have served CW to have held this release back just a little longer, but I'm sure they did what they think they had to do. But - after the interaction on this forum (which is sometimes difficult as we know), and my need to "make music" took precedence, I just decided not to be impatient. I don't need to have X1 fever. I DO need to have X1 work though, as we all do. So I very much understand your frustration indeed. And as creative people, having that flow interrupted is a horrible thing as we all know. So again - don't beat yourself up. Go back to what works _for now_ and remind CW that we are on their side, and we need them to be on our side too. This will all work out sooner or later, I'm sure. Now have a drink for me? ;)
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Re:MY Snap Problems!!! Short Video> HELP!
2011/01/10 18:44:45
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LOL OMG I just re-opened the project just now. It seems I had the magnetic strength set to low, I am 100% sure I had it set to off in my other projects So I just loaded up another project and the setting were set to off, I guess its project specific .. I should drink more often .Thank GOD for the Jameson.. Thank YOU all Seriously Thanks..
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2011/01/10 18:46:49
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djjhart@aol.com
LOL OMG I just re-opened the project just now. It seems I had the magnetic strength set to low, I am 100% sure I had it set to off in my other projects So I just loaded up another project and the setting were set to off, I guess its project specific .. I should drink more often .Thank GOD for the Jameson.. Thank YOU all Seriously Thanks..
Haha... well good that you found that. But it does go to show how sensitive we become when we're working on a project, eh? Maybe Mr. Jameson snuck in there after all ;)
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