Me patiently waiting for Track to Track Routing in Sonar

Me patiently waiting for Aux Tracks/Track to Track routing in Sonar

All good comes to those who waits (or something like that)...

PilotGav
Ya

Zargg71
All good comes to those who waits (or something like that)...

Ya but it comes to Sonar last. ;-)

I think you are waiting to fast

bapu
I'm In-Patient but that's another story.

I would love to hear that story sometime

Grem

Zargg71

bapu
I'm In-Patient but that's another story.

I would love to hear that story sometime

No you wouldn't. It's kinda gross!! :)

Come on... Share the horror

+1

PilotGav

magik570
I am curious to know why there is a need for AUX track, what can we not do with BUS that we can do with AUX? 

 
If I'm working on Drums, for example, I want the aux track beside the drum tracks. Not grouped with the Master faders so that I have to scroll around all the time. That's just one small example.
 
Is there a reason there SHOULDN'T be aux tracks?
 

So if you could move a bus it would be ok?

MArwood
So if you could move a bus it would be ok?

It would be more ok than it is now, but I'd like to be able to print to a new track.

I am using BUS for that. All the BUSes (Aux tracks) together beside the Master fader.
 
But, if I would have Aux Tracks then I could compare..

PilotGav

MArwood
So if you could move a bus it would be ok?

It would be more ok than it is now, but I'd like to be able to print to a new track.

Not sure if this helps you but if you open the Inspector and deselect any active tabs at the top (so none of the Clip, Track/Bus, ProChannel tabs are blue) then it will display the currently selected track on the left and the bus being fed by it on the right.
 
Bit of a hamfisted solution but you do get access to quite a few controls side by side (most importantly the fader strips with all the Sends, FX Bin, etc you'll find in Console view). I am not familiar with what strips in other programs will provide in the direct routing setup side by side but it might even be more.
 
What I usually do though is just open the console, drag the bus/track divider out then use the horizontal scroll bar to show the track(s) I want on the track side and the busses being fed by those tracks on the right side. That way I can not only access the console strips of both the track(s) and bus but easily access each of their Inspectors (like if I already have the inspector open I just click on the strip and KAPLOW... it's there... if the Inspector isn't open all I gotta do is press I).
 
Honestly I don't really like the workflow of having all my busses mixed in with my track strips (that's just me). Too messy and confusing.
 
However I DO want this track to track routing and after some annoying issues I discovered recently I am hoping that I'll be able to use a blank MIDI track's automation lanes to control the parameters on any other track (like the level, pan, effects, whatever).
 
I of course also like the idea of being able to record or send directly into another track just because that could definitely be useful in certain situations.
 
I would still use the current bus scheme for proper bussing. It is just cleaner to me and I can use all the cleanliness I can get due to my chaotic mind.
 
I'm sure the Baker's are busily (and carefully) coding away so defintiely be patient. This is a biggie and I'd really not want a rushed to market version. There are so many factors to consider here and it would be better if they, as latecomers to this comparitively old feature, took the opportunity to smash the old paradigms and made it more useful. The other guys are stuck with their methods because their customers would POP if they got too radical. Cake doesn't have that problem.
 
JMO...
 
Cheers.

Beepster
 
What I usually do though is just open the console, drag the bus/track divider out then use the horizontal scroll bar to show the track(s) I want on the track side and the busses being fed by those tracks on the right side. That way I can not only access the console strips of both the track(s) and bus but easily access each of their Inspectors (like if I already have the inspector open I just click on the strip and KAPLOW... it's there... if the Inspector isn't open all I gotta do is press I).
 

KAPLOW!
 
I love it

Virtual patch points do away with the need for extra "aux tracks". The patch point is essentially like using a patch bay where you can patch any number of tracks or buses to it and then "connect" the patch point output to another track (or bus). If its patched to a track you can then record that tracks patchpoint input just like it was a hardware input.
The feature is in development so any or all of this might change :)

No GUI required today - patch points are created from the track input/outputs and show up in the menus.
Although in the future we could do some fancy routing matrix view.

Bristol_Jonesey
That actually looks horrible.

Agreed. Last thing I need is another massive and self indulgent GUI taking over my screen (I'm looking at you AD2).
 
If the routing options are in the dropdowns and work. Great. If there is a simple to use and easy to understand TEXT based global map showing what goes where with editing capabilties (like "I wanna send this to this instead... *CLICK*")... awesome.
 
Then again xbitz put a smiley at the end of his post so I think he was joking.
 
So luzlity1zorzeleventy
 
:-p

mettelus
+1, at least have more than one cable color!

On a serious note, a graphical routing map for both audio and MIDI (by channel) in a project would be rather nice.

... and show patched effects in the matrix as well.