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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/06/29 03:56:25
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My guess is the OP had an issue with the upgrade because he registered Melodyne 4 Essential and then upgraded his old copy of Melodyne 3 Studio to Melodyne 4 Studio. This is a different scenario than having one registration with Celemony and upgrading that version.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/06/30 11:55:44
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Yeh, I figured out that it's the exact same set of files (executable, plugin and help) for all editions. I use the same scheme in my own software. What threw me was I expected it to re-read the license when I started it up. Rebooting didn't do the trick for me, though. I had to de-authorize Essential. Only then could it be convinced to run as Studio.
All's well that ends well. I've got my familiar Studio back and I can run it from within SONAR. It's fun to drag the mouse around multiple clips and have them all pop up in Melodyne with a single keypress, then render them all at once after editing. No more file transfers, communication VSTs or lost synchronization.
Yup, it was worth the 99 bucks.
Pretty cool, aye? The upgrade to Studio v4 was one of my best upgrades in a long, long time. Not just for detailed correction work, which is what I mostly use it for, but for sound design too. And it is great to have multiple clips/tracks aligned in a single instance - makes timing corrections a breeze.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/06/30 14:26:46
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Taming vibrato was one of my favorite features of V-Vocal. For pitch correction Melodyne sounds more transparent, to my ears at least. Has anyone tried using V-Vocal on vibrato either before or after pitch editing a clip with Melodyne? I'm wondering whether it would be worth the trouble of digging out my old SONAR discs just to install V-Vocal. Of course, I could just buy a Melodyne upgrade. . . .
V-Vocal would be a suitable stopgap for this purpose if you don't want to spend the $200 on a Melodyne upgrade. You could do the pitch correction with Essential and then do vibrato editing with V-Vocal, in that order. However, I'd suggest splitting the clip to isolate the smallest piece possible for editing with V-V, because V-Vocal can produce artifacts even if you don't make any edits.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/07/05 19:38:00
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I desperately need ad Vocal editor but the Melodyne Essentials is not going to be enough. How much better is the Melodyne Assistant? I was told that I just can't select the V-Vocal from a previous installation DVD and have it install by itself, but there is more. I am not certain of what more is? Any insight? What would be the better Choice? Taking my Chances with V-Vocal installation from an old DVD or Upgrading to Melodyne Assistant and possibly getting more features to totally edit vocals? I need Help.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/07/05 20:18:37
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Jesse G
I desperately need ad Vocal editor but the Melodyne Essentials is not going to be enough. How much better is the Melodyne Assistant?
I was told that I just can't select the V-Vocal from a previous installation DVD and have it install by itself, that there is more, however, I am not certain of what more is? Any insight?
What would be the better Choice? taking my Chances with V-Vocal installation from an old DVD or Upgrading to Melodyne Assistance and possibly getting more features to totally edit vocals?
I need Help.
IIRC, you have to install the basis of SONAR (X2?), choose advanced install, and choose V-Vocal. Others may know better. All the best.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/07/05 20:22:09
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/07/05 20:39:21
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/07/05 20:40:16
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Jesse G
I desperately need ad Vocal editor but the Melodyne Essentials is not going to be enough. How much better is the Melodyne Assistant?
What would be the better Choice? taking my Chances with V-Vocal installation from an old DVD or Upgrading to Melodyne Assistance and possibly getting more features to totally edit vocals?
The better choice is definitely a Melodyne upgrade. I wouldn't bother with V-Vocal except as a stopgap measure while filling my piggybank for the Melodyne purchase. I don't have any experience with the Assistant edition, but there is a features matrix here. From what I see in that chart, it appears the only big omissions from Assistant are the ability to edit multiple tracks in one window, and polyphonic editing. The latter isn't something you'll probably care about if vocal editing is your main objective. However, being able to overlay multiple vocal tracks is a huge help when doing double-tracked parts and harmonies.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/07/06 16:30:01
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I went with assistant after audio to midi was removed from essential. As you point out that small upgrade gives you a lot of features for your money. I felt it was the most bang for the bucks.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/07/06 17:17:37
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I went with assistant after audio to midi was removed from essential. As you point out that small upgrade gives you a lot of features for your money. I felt it was the most bang for the bucks.
Hi. When did they remove that option? I hadn't noticed 
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/07/06 22:13:10
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A tad off the question, but I will add that I use the "vibrato" tool (the one that looks like a triangle wave) a lot in conjunction with the pitch drift tool (that looks like a shallow sine wave).
If a note varies way off pitch, I use the drift tool to center it on the note as much as possible, and then use the vibrato tool to reduce the magnitude of the variance. Old stuff to you Melodyne pros, but a good trick for newbies.
Arguing aside, people's ears now expect dead-on pitch. On the other side, doubled and tripled parts can be fattened by using Melodyne in the other direction, or by correcting different amounts (or by moving a part as a whole up or down a few cents after it is corrected).
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/07/06 22:33:46
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A tad off the question, but I will add that I use the "vibrato" tool (the one that looks like a triangle wave) a lot in conjunction with the pitch drift tool (that looks like a shallow sine wave).
If a note varies way off pitch, I use the drift tool to center it on the note as much as possible, and then use the vibrato tool to reduce the magnitude of the variance. Old stuff to you Melodyne pros, but a good trick for newbies.
Arguing aside, people's ears now expect dead-on pitch. On the other side, doubled and tripled parts can be fattened by using Melodyne in the other direction, or by correcting different amounts (or by moving a part as a whole up or down a few cents after it is corrected).
Conrad, Which version of Melodyne are you using?
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/07/07 01:01:51
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I went with assistant after audio to midi was removed from essential. As you point out that small upgrade gives you a lot of features for your money. I felt it was the most bang for the bucks.
Hi. When did they remove that option?
I hadn't noticed
Pretty sure they changed the package content when version 4 came out. It was on the very 1st bundled version and then gone. If you look on the list everyone is linking, you'll see it's not in essential any longer.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/07/07 07:20:02
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I guess that makes sense from their staged sales model but that's a serious downer for anyone who got it with Sonar!
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/07/07 07:34:46
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Unlike Microsoft Office the features of Melodyne whether advanced or simple are useful. I watched a video to do with Waves Tune last night and whilst impressive only deals with melodic content and it's always pushing the Protools thing. Although Studio 1 seems to be making an appearance these days.
Once I have allocated enough money I will put some cash into second most or Studio version. Afterall as long as I use the features at one time, the investment will be there. It's more than correction, you can use it to of sound design. I've used Melodyne to quickly recover melodies from prerecorded parts as it's a time saver. When remixing songs from others, it allows you create new parts from theirs or build accompanying parts.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/08/09 10:14:03
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I wrote Melodyne when I upgraded and they sent me a new license which made it easy to integrate. The vibrato tool is very important to me. Yes, I prefer multiple takes and comping but still need pitch correction. Inmissed v-vocal for awhile but got over it. Too many transients/artifacts/slurring sounds.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/08/09 16:03:57
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I went with assistant after audio to midi was removed from essential. As you point out that small upgrade gives you a lot of features for your money. I felt it was the most bang for the bucks.
Hi. When did they remove that option?
I hadn't noticed
Pretty sure they changed the package content when version 4 came out. It was on the very 1st bundled version and then gone. If you look on the list everyone is linking, you'll see it's not in essential any longer.
FYI essential still has audio to midi conversion. just create a midi track or instrument track and drag an audio track to it.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/08/09 19:20:37
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I went with assistant after audio to midi was removed from essential. As you point out that small upgrade gives you a lot of features for your money. I felt it was the most bang for the bucks.
Hi. When did they remove that option?
I hadn't noticed
Pretty sure they changed the package content when version 4 came out. It was on the very 1st bundled version and then gone. If you look on the list everyone is linking, you'll see it's not in essential any longer.
FYI essential still has audio to midi conversion. just create a midi track or instrument track and drag an audio track to it.
Thanks! Just checked myself, and it works
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/08/10 02:35:28
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There seem to be so many good deals for Melodyne and I can recommend Studio if you also like experimental music as it offers some incredible features.
Up until the end of July you could buy an upgrade from Essential to Editor from everyplugin.com for £133 and right now direct from Celemony the upgrade from Editor 4 to Studio 4 is only £45 which totals £178 for Sonar users to upgrade from the bundled Essential version to Studio 4.
The full price is £630 which limits its market but at under £200 for all those people who have Essential as it's bundled with a lot more than Sonar it's very appealing; to me anyway.
I only registered Essential 2 recently as I'd never used it from Sonar X3 Producer.
Upgraded to Editor 4 two weeks ago and today to Studio 4 and I'm blown away.
Thanks to whomever it was on this forum that mentioned that everyplugin.com had the upgrade deal on last month.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/08/29 03:22:10
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Got Melodyne editor to my Sonar Professional. Yes, Melodyne Studio still does a lot more than editor, but I am ok presently with it: all the pitch correction, modulation, tone drift, volume, time correction, formants for timbre: all is there, well accessible, for each note (=blob). There's another thing that puzzeles me a bit. If I wanted to use Melodyne in Sonar, I used to go "Insert", "ReWire" -> uncategorized -> Melodyne 4. I can see that Melodyne launches, but is does so as if I was using it as a standalone. In earlier times Melodyne opened inside of the Sonar screen as we can watch it in the tutorial at YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-0pHJTaIOo&t=2sbut alas, the tutorial does not show which settings have they been using, differing (obviously) from mine. I posted my question there as well, but with no reply so far, which makes me think I better try here. Thanks for updating me.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/08/29 08:44:56
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Mad_Musicologist
Got Melodyne editor to my Sonar Professional.
Yes, Melodyne Studio still does a lot more than editor, but I am ok presently with it: all the pitch correction, modulation, tone drift, volume, time correction, formants for timbre: all is there, well accessible, for each note (=blob).
There's another thing that puzzeles me a bit.
If I wanted to use Melodyne in Sonar, I used to go
"Insert",
"ReWire" -> uncategorized -> Melodyne 4.
I can see that Melodyne launches, but is does so as if I was using it as a standalone.
In earlier times Melodyne opened inside of the Sonar screen as we can watch it in the tutorial at YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-0pHJTaIOo&t=2s
but alas, the tutorial does not show which settings have they been using, differing (obviously) from mine.
I posted my question there as well, but with no reply so far, which makes me think I better try here.
Thanks for updating me.
Hi. IMO you should use Melodyne as a Region FX, using the ARA function. Right click on clip, choose Region FX, and then Melodyne. All the best.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/08/29 14:43:19
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Region FX - I have seen that in my Sonar. But it seems I've been missing something. Is there any detail more I should know, please? Do I have to add Melodyne at all in the way I add e.g. a soft synth?
Thankx.
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/08/29 14:53:53
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Right now the Everyplugin web site is having a upgrade Sale on Melodyne 4.
From Melodyne 4 Essentials to Melodyne 4 Assistant is $132.62
From Melodyne 4 Essentials to Melodyne 4 Editor is $168.01
From Melodyne 4 Essentials to Melodyne 4 Studio is $338.00
I just used Essentials as an example, all Melodnye upgrades are available.
This is nice.
Thanks for that, I've always avoided upgrading because of the price for me for a tool I'll only use once in a blue moon, but Editor is in my price range and seems it does everything I would need. I do need that vibrato tool as that's the place I get pitch issues. And it would be handy to convert guitar parts to midi just for fun. EDIT: Whoops, old thread it's now $399!!! to upgrade from Essentials to Studio https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Melo4EdUpEss Man you do need to grab sales when they are offered..
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Re: Melodyne question:
2017/08/29 15:09:45
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☄ Helpfulby Zargg 2017/08/29 16:49:36
Mad_Musicologist
Region FX - I have seen that in my Sonar. But it seems I've been missing something. Is there any detail more I should know, please? Do I have to add Melodyne at all in the way I add e.g. a soft synth?
Thankx.
- Using the smart tool:- Click + drag in the lower portion of the audio track to make a selection (it will be highlighted).- Right click on the clip and choose "Region FX / Melodyne".- The clip will open Melodyne automatically in a new window in the Multi Dock.- Once you have made your edits in Melodyne, go back to the highlighted clip in track view and right click, choose "Bounce to clips". This will render the clip and avoid problems. What ever you do, don't freeze instead of render  .
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Re: Melodyne question:
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Re: Melodyne question:
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