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2017/11/29 19:24:38 (permalink)

**Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated**

From Don Williams...
 
As the creator of Overture, I have been a software developer for over 30 years in the music software industry. Before Overture I wrote Master Tracks Pro and Encore. During this time I have seen several music software companies fold that I was associated with, Gibson being the culprit of two of them.
I am deeply saddened at Gibson's decision and feel bad for all of the loyal users fo so many years. If you know your Cakewalk history, Overture was published by Cakewalk in 1999-2000. I give you this background, so you'll understand this long post.
 
NOTE: For the record Sonar's staff view was not spun off into Overture as some have claimed on this forum. Overture was around long before Sonar and even Pro Audio 9.
 
To start, the people at Cakewalk, Alex, Keith, Noel, etc. worked very hard to make things work, but Gibson crippled their efforts and this is how I know first-hand.
 
A little over a year ago, Cakewalk approached me with the idea of putting better notation in Sonar. At that time, I told them my schedule was full for the next six months putting out fires from a newly released version of Overture 5. I had spent five years rewriting old code and due to the major rewrite, there were many issues to deal with.
 
Last spring two of us flew to Boston to meet with Cakewalk to worked out a deal to put very, very, good notation is Sonar and add some of my upcoming products in the Cakewalk store. The notation would contain 80% of what Overture can do and was to have full integration with Sonar. We agreed to terms, everybody walked away happy, and Cakewalk presented the deal to Gibson. After a month or so, Gibson turned it down, claiming they would have too much financial liability. After the disappointment, I met with a Cakewalk person at Summer NAMM and I agreed to worked out a new deal limiting Gibson's liability. Cakewalk liked the new deal and all of us were very excited, thinking Gibson will not turn down the new terms. To our shock Gibson said no. Cakewalk knew the importance of the deal to Sonar and was left feeling helpless. I felt bad for the guys at Cakewalk and on my own decided to help Cakewalk by offering to put a free light version in Sonar at no cost to Cakewalk or Gibson and we would sell an upgrade that provided full notation for a very small price. This was a no brainer, right. Guess what! Nothing ever happened, and I even have an alpha version working.
 
To move on, after reading your posts and I want to say that I understand your frustrations. I know that money is a huge concern for most musicians and having to switch to a new DAW is a very big decision. After talking to a long time Cakewalk person yesterday it was suggested that I write a post and make an offer that may help.
 
Right now, we are having an Epic sale through December 1st of Overture 5 for $75. This low price is in no way a reflection of problems here and Sonic Scores is not in financial trouble and I have always believed in affordable prices for good software. In fact, next year will be my best year in twenty-five years. If any of you Sonar users would like to purchase Overture 5, I will make an offer to you for $50. This is not a subscription price and is the full version.
 
If you have not looked at Overture 5, it is a DAW like/Notation hybrid. Within the next year we plan to add audio tracks. We release a new update everyone to three months and always include new features that were requested by the users. As for your Sonar files there is not much I can do until the audio tracks are implemented but you can export your scores as a MusicXML and import them into Overture if they contain MIDI tracks.
 
I apologize for the long-winded post but really wanted to you to know it hurts to see such a good company killed by gross mismanagement and that it is no way a reflection of Cakewalks’ personnel.
 


Here is a direct link to the store:    https://sonicscores.com/product/overture-5/
 
Use code   "sonar50"  at the checkout to get $50 special offer price.

Thanks for listening,
Don Williams
post edited by Karyn - 2017/11/29 23:53:32
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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture** 2017/11/29 19:31:30 (permalink)
Thanks for the history and offer, Don

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture** 2017/11/29 19:34:20 (permalink)
What a generous offer Don.

And great to get some background on one of the most hotly discussed areas of Sonar. The Bakers must have been really frustrated having a solution at their finger tips all the while Gibson putting the kibosh on while we kept on the pressure to fix notation. No wonder they said nothing in the end.

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture** 2017/11/29 19:45:45 (permalink)
Thanks for that insight. 

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture** 2017/11/29 19:53:06 (permalink)
I am interested :)


               
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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture** 2017/11/29 19:59:24 (permalink)
OK. I just d/l'd v5.51, installed and authorized it (had previously uninstalled). It still hard-crashes when scanning Waves shells.
 
I give up.

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture** 2017/11/29 20:26:41 (permalink)
Well, that explains a lot.  Thanks for the offer Don!

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture** 2017/11/29 20:31:07 (permalink)
Hello Don
 
I'm also interested in your 50% offer.
 
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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture** 2017/11/29 22:02:09 (permalink)
That sounds like an interesting offer, thanks! 
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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture** 2017/11/29 23:30:56 (permalink)
Special offer detail updated.

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture** 2017/11/30 00:44:26 (permalink)
Wow thanks, Don, great offer and looks great at first site at least. So this could have been January's Sonar update :(

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 00:47:01 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/11/30 15:03:00
I am speechless as to what could have been... and how Gibson squashed it.
 
Although, I am happy to hear that to Cakewalk folks and SonicScores were into it.
post edited by pbognar - 2017/11/30 03:05:33
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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 00:54:47 (permalink)
Wow, hang on, so you are offering your $249 software for the academic license price - $75? That is genuinely generous and worthy of everyone's time to investigate further! Thank you.

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 01:00:29 (permalink)
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Wow, hang on, so you are offering your $249 software for the academic license price - $75? That is genuinely generous and worthy of everyone's time to investigate further! Thank you.


Read the offer again...  there's a code to use at checkout...

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 01:01:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/11/30 15:03:15
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
DAMN YOU GIBSON, YOU F-WITS

 
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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 01:26:34 (permalink)
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Wow, hang on, so you are offering your $249 software for the academic license price - $75? That is genuinely generous and worthy of everyone's time to investigate further! Thank you.


Read the offer again...  there's a code to use at checkout...


By crikey Karyn, you're right. $50! No audio yet which is a shame, but looks like this shaping up to be a great DAW for the future.

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 01:47:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/11/30 15:03:33
I'm not sure it's ever intended to become a DAW.. Its scoring tools which, like Sibelius and others, has Midi editing and playback as a means of entering (and hearing) the score...
While Don talks about adding audio capabilities, that's a long way from becoming a DAW.
 
It is what it is, which is a great offer for Sonar users for what could have been the new Staff View for Sonar..

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 01:51:11 (permalink)
Yes absolutely and a hell of a deal! I'll be trying the demo for sure.

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 02:03:35 (permalink)
I just tried out the demo....it looks like a fabulous program ...and for $50 bucks ??? I bought and am downloading the full program right now....Thank You Very Much !!!!!!!!
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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 02:29:53 (permalink)
The way various vendors are coming to CW users with special deals is very encouraging.
 
And this particular deal looks sweet!

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 02:48:56 (permalink)
Thanks Don, very generous and can't pass it up!
Happy Holidays!
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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 04:38:26 (permalink)
Unfortunately, in the demo it crashes when I try to scan my VST3 plugins. Try a couple of times.

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 05:58:55 (permalink)
Despite nt wanting t get a 3rd Part Program fr Notation, I too have purchased.. Hopefuy I can integrate this into my process with Sonar.
 
Thanks Don Williams for your efforts

 
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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 06:28:10 (permalink)
Thank you for your history insight and generous offer!

I am saddened that you confirmed my fears that CW could never steer their own ship and Gibson had a stranglehold on them from essentially day one. The signatures on the monthly update e-zines always left concerns for me.

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 06:41:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/11/30 15:04:41
Well I had started a thread about this, and Karyn wanted to merge it with this one, but it disappeared. It figures.
 
Anyway, Don is the real deal and so is Overture. This is what I was alluding to when I posted that I was pursuing a notation solution. I'm sorry it didn't work out.

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 07:39:18 (permalink)
An incredibly generous offer. Thank you.
 
Picking up a copy. Looking forward to digging in.

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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 07:47:34 (permalink)
Thanks, Don. I just picked up a copy as well - very slick!
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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 08:18:52 (permalink)
Thanks Don for this very generous offer, I've just acquired my copy too.
 
Best wishes
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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 09:11:01 (permalink)
Thanks for the offer.
How long does it last ?
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Re: **Message from Don Williams - Overture 5 - Updated** 2017/11/30 09:12:17 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby CedricM 2017/11/30 09:14:32
To the end of the year.
 
 
Edit:  This may not be correct. 
 
 
post edited by Karyn - 2017/12/02 22:02:34

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