The Harrison was not used for the vocal tracking. Bruce used his pair of 1084s (page 189) "Make Mine Music". The album was mixed on the Harrison however. Any MJ vocal after Off the Wall was through the 1084s.
 
Skull, it was an SM7. You are correct the "b" is a later version.

Yah....but I was just "funnin".

As we all probably know, it's the same mic....though some 'ol timers swear the original sounds better - as is usually the case when they have something that you don't.

ohhey

M@ B

ohhey

Beagle

M@ B


is price the only determining factor for quality?
how do the facts that anthony kiedis, james hettfield and micheal jackson sing/have sung on an sm7 play into that determination? especially considering the fact that m.j's "thriller" is the biggest selling record in history? i would have to say it's capable of being rather "high quality."

The rumor I heard was that it was an SM57.  regardless, what that really states is that the quality from that recording came from the the performance and the recording, mixing and mastering engineers and producers.

Hey I just got a Martin D-35 (brag brag brag) what mic would you use on that ?

audio technica 4021

Wow.. you could be right it worked great on this guy's Martin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLl--yJoi90

looks like an sm7b as well.

Frank!

dimelives1


Thank you, everyone, for your suggestions. I have checked all of them out and am looking over the details with much care.

I've been leaning toward the Rode NT1:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NT1AAnniv/

After reading into the matter more, I believe I need a large diaphragm condenser mic, I've seen Rode recommended elsewhere, the reviews are all positive, it comes with the full shabang package including a shockmount and pop shield, and the price is right.

But I can't ignore all the suggestions of a mic like the Shure SM27. But with the higher price and fewer reviews, I'm not sure that this would be the wiser choice.

Objective thoughts?


(Again, I will be using the mic only for recording hard rock vocals and speech dialogue, and possibly guitar amps and a touch of acoustic guitar in the future. No plans for recording drums, live audio, etc.)

Well... I thought I needed a large diaphragm condenser mic, but someone else who I asked for suggestions informed me that unless I'm going to be working in a totally soundproof, padded room, that I'm likely to pick up all kinds of unwanted ambient noises, be it cars driving by on the street outside or electric hum (from nearby electrical power, I'm assuming?)...

Is this so?

I don't want to spend a bundle of cash on a good mic if I'm going to be picking up a bunch of noise I don't want, including any bleed from monitor headphones while I'm recording...

This person recommended the Shure SM58. It seems to have very good ratings online, but is this a better recording solution for me than a good condenser mic like the Rode NT1?

NEED INPUT!

I've played all manner of high end martins... but I've never been able to buy one for myself. I am now officially and publicly Seething Jealous of Oh Hey. Just saying !

Geez, I had to wait until I was 56 to get my dream guitar. A 2009 American Deluxe Strat. I have these moments however when I think I will sell off my studio gear and just get a D-45 or Concert OMG. Then I start imagining selling my house buying a small van and traveling the country playing small halls and clubs until I can't drive anymore. Then I realize my wife and two kids probably wouldn't like living in a van.

batsbrew


shure ksm44

I would love to have one of those, I hope the new "a" version sounds the same.

dimelives1


Well... I thought I needed a large diaphragm condenser mic, but someone else who I asked for suggestions informed me that unless I'm going to be working in a totally soundproof, padded room, that I'm likely to pick up all kinds of unwanted ambient noises, be it cars driving by on the street outside or electric hum (from nearby electrical power, I'm assuming?)...

Is this so?

I don't want to spend a bundle of cash on a good mic if I'm going to be picking up a bunch of noise I don't want, including any bleed from monitor headphones while I'm recording...

This person recommended the Shure SM58. It seems to have very good ratings online, but is this a better recording solution for me than a good condenser mic like the Rode NT1?

NEED INPUT!

a 58 would work of course, but not very well. like @ already mentioned, it's really a live mic.
the other stuff about ambient noise is true to an extent, but unless you live on a very busy street with lots of horns honking and stuff like that, you should be ok. not sure what kind of electrical hum they're referring to, but that's not a common issue. condensers are definitely more sensitive than dynamics, but like @ already mentioned also, that's one of the things that is good about them. if headphone bleed is really an issue, turn them down a bit. unless you've got em really cranked, you should be fine. in case no one has mentioned it already, condensers require phantom power from the preamp.

M@ B


a 58 would work of course, but not very well. like @ already mentioned, it's really a live mic.
the other stuff about ambient noise is true to an extent, but unless you live on a very busy street with lots of horns honking and stuff like that, you should be ok. not sure what kind of electrical hum they're referring to, but that's not a common issue. condensers are definitely more sensitive than dynamics, but like @ already mentioned also, that's one of the things that is good about them. if headphone bleed is really an issue, turn them down a bit. unless you've got em really cranked, you should be fine. in case no one has mentioned it already, condensers require phantom power from the preamp.

Ok, thanks for the input (thanks to AT as well). Seems my other source of recommendation may have been a little too worrisome, hmm? I don't live on an insanely busy street, our windows block out a lot of noise, and the room I record in is small and has a lot of furniture. To my ears, the noise level within the room is very dead, which I understand is good for recording circumstances.

And yeah, I have a Yamaha mixer with phantom power.

What do you folks think of the Rode NT1?
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/NT1AAnniv/
It's what I've been eyeballing the most. Seems to have great reviews and all. I've checked out the various Shure's suggested, but with all the different suggestions and lack of reviews that I could find, I've not been so keen on any of them as I've been on the Rode. So what do my friends here with better knowledge think about it? Any negatives about it that anyone's aware of?

Thank you!

I just want a good mic that's not going to sound like a mic at all... if that makes any sense. I want it to sound like the singer/speaker's mouth is relaying directly to the listener (sans effects, EQ, and whatnot), rather than sounding like a voice recorded through a microphone.

I'm really leaning toward the Rode, unless anyone vouches against it with any complaints, which I'd love to hear, no matter how minor.


EDIT:  And, when mics refer to "pad", what is that? Can you folks explain it to me please?

Rode NT-1's are good mics.  I haven't used an NT-1 myself specifically, but I've heard the results from others using them.  I have used a Rode Tube NTK myself and the quality was fantastic.  However, I found the differences so very subtle between it and my Shure KSM-27 when compared in a mic shootout.

Makes perfect sense. The last mic that I had that experience with was a Neumann M269.  Yes, an M269. You never hear about that one for some reason. But It was a fantastic mic for this application. It simply sounded like "turning up the source". Gorgeous mic.

Dammit, couldn't you just have had that experience with a slightly cheaper mic? Slightly?

tarsier

I just want a good mic that's not going to sound like a mic at all... if that makes any sense.

Makes perfect sense. The last mic that I had that experience with was a Neumann M269.  Yes, an M269. You never hear about that one for some reason. But It was a fantastic mic for this application. It simply sounded like "turning up the source". Gorgeous mic.

Where could I buy it?... Can't find it on Sweetwater, Musician's Friend, SamAsh, or anywhere else... Is it an actual product that's... for sale?