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2013/09/24 08:48:39 (permalink)

Mind the Gap

This is my first attempt at a dance track.  Been working on this for a few weeks now, and just added some guitar to the middle drum break.  I think it's done, but perhaps there are some things I've missed that you folks may hear.  As always, I appreciate your time to listen, and I hope you enjoy it!
 
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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/24 14:25:44 (permalink)
Dance tracks are not generally my thing but this has a decent 80s vibe to it. Production is top notch.
 
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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/24 14:34:39 (permalink)
   This is a  catchy dance tune Walt. Great job on this.

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/24 15:11:20 (permalink)
bapu
Dance tracks are not generally my thing but this has a decent 80s vibe to it. Production is top notch.


Thanks Bapu!  I tend to do a lot of retro sounding stuff, be it rock or electronica.  I appreciate the listen and your comments!
 
Starise
This is a  catchy dance tune Walt. Great job on this.



Glad you like it Tim.  You know a lot more about electronic music than I do so that's a pretty good compliment!  Thanks for taking the time to check it out.

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/25 11:08:51 (permalink)
what Ed said...
it really is an excellent production... I could have danced all night... back in the day, if I felt like it... and had the right drugs and lady to grope... but I digress...
Well done Walt...
 
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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/25 11:18:11 (permalink)
As noted by Frank the situation and mind frame could help this, having said that the production does sound very accomplished.
 
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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/25 11:30:15 (permalink)
Good production even sounds nice even on my crappy monitor speakers, will have another listen when I'm back on my studio machine. Transitions from one musical idea to the next are pretty seamless and work well especially when you move to the guitar section. :thumbs up:

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/25 11:34:49 (permalink)
notnat
what Ed said...
it really is an excellent production... I could have danced all night... back in the day, if I felt like it... and had the right drugs and lady to grope... but I digress...
Well done Walt...
 


Thanks Frank!  Your productions are always fantastic so a compliment from you goes a long way. :)  I've never been much of a dancer, but my music seems to be taking me there sometimes recently.  Maybe some day I'll get a DJ gig or something crazy like that.  Not looking forward to any gear lugging though... my back isn't what it used to be.

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/25 11:37:01 (permalink)
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As noted by Frank the situation and mind frame could help this, having said that the production does sound very accomplished.
 
Thanks for sharing.



Thanks for taking a listen Wookiee.  Wow, everyone seems to like this production.  I just wish I personally liked dance music more than I do. ;)  This is really a departure from pretty much everything I've done in previous decades.

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/25 11:42:00 (permalink)
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Good production even sounds nice even on my crappy monitor speakers, will have another listen when I'm back on my studio machine. Transitions from one musical idea to the next are pretty seamless and work well especially when you move to the guitar section. :thumbs up:

 
Thanks biodiode.  I appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment!  As for the guitar break, it was originally only the drums soloing, but I decided a week or so ago that it needed something more, so I grabbed my Strat and opened up Guitar Rig 5 and started jamming over it until I found some things that were working.  I'm glad you found the transitions smooth, as I was a little concerned that they might not match up with the rest of the production.

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/25 12:57:25 (permalink)
Walt, this is a good example of how a good arrangement can jazz up a genre that's somewhat stereotyped.  The mix is superb.  There's enough changes in this to keep it fresh.  To those who are just getting into this genre, this should be a good study.

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/25 14:56:48 (permalink)
 
Walt, though I prefer your more down tempo atmospheric work like Neptune's Oceans, I can dig this! It sounds great and you really captured that 80's feel.
Cool stuff!

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/25 16:45:10 (permalink)
One of the better dance tunes I've heard up here.  My favorite, I believe.  First, oddly enough, it made me feel like dancing.  The production is full and well balanced.  The "thingys" all come in when I was hoping they would.  It has all the necessary high frequencies but the low end is right there and fills it out.  Very nicely done, Walt!

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/26 07:30:00 (permalink)
Lynn
Walt, this is a good example of how a good arrangement can jazz up a genre that's somewhat stereotyped.  The mix is superb.  There's enough changes in this to keep it fresh.  To those who are just getting into this genre, this should be a good study.



Wow Lynn, thanks for the glowing review!  And also for listening to a song that is labeled "dance".
 
I do have to admit that I'm not really pushing any envelopes here.  A lot of dance songs these days are trying to be edgy/innovative in some way, since it's all been done so many times before.  Mind the Gap is just a basic retro-sounding dance style song that isn't trying to break any new ground.  Truth is I think most songs labeled "dance" go too far in trying to be different and become less musical.  But then again, what do I know.  I've never been a fan of the genre, so maybe in a strange way that gives me fresh ears and a retro perspective that is different from most of what's being done now.

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/26 07:38:11 (permalink)
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Walt, though I prefer your more down tempo atmospheric work like Neptune's Oceans, I can dig this! It sounds great and you really captured that 80's feel.
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Thanks so much for listening Daniel.  I suspect "dance" is not going to be an attractive tag here on this forum, so I appreciate you getting past that stigma and hitting the Play button. :)  As for the '80s feel, I guess that's just what my musical tastes prefer.  I love the big fat synth sounds.  I have to admit though that I also prefer the down tempo songs myself.  I will definitely be doing more of those in the future. :)

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/26 07:46:02 (permalink)
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One of the better dance tunes I've heard up here.  My favorite, I believe.  First, oddly enough, it made me feel like dancing.  The production is full and well balanced.  The "thingys" all come in when I was hoping they would.  It has all the necessary high frequencies but the low end is right there and fills it out.  Very nicely done, Walt!



Thanks Warren!  I appreciate your ears and production sensibilities.  I'm not much of a dancer, but dancing usually equates to happiness so that sounds good to me!
 
Your technical comments are highlighting the fact that I produced this song like a pop/rock track.  Maybe that's why people are digging it so much here on this board.  It's got a definite pop/rock song structure with verses, choruses, a bridge and an outro.  The voices and effects were chosen from my standard toolset.  It's what I know!  So that's what I did.  Glad you liked it. :)

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/26 16:09:27 (permalink)
I love that twangy surf guitar that comes in around 2:11... Love to hear more of that...
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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/26 20:01:34 (permalink)
Very nicely done Walt. Nice textures and instrumentation and smooth transitions to boot. Unlike some of your other sounds but just as nicely created. Like most have said, it does make you feel like dancing. Very nice production work.
 
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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/26 20:16:50 (permalink)
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I love that twangy surf guitar that comes in around 2:11... Love to hear more of that...
BTW your SC page always plays for me on my IE-9... your sc url starts with https...



Thanks Frank!  I would have guessed you'd gravitate to the guitar.  I might have to throw down a more bluesy/country track some time soon so I can learn more from you.  Your ears are always much appreciated!

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/26 20:26:59 (permalink)
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Very nicely done Walt. Nice textures and instrumentation and smooth transitions to boot. Unlike some of your other sounds but just as nicely created. Like most have said, it does make you feel like dancing. Very nice production work.
 
Peace and Blessings, John



Thanks for giving it a listen John!  I haven't really produced much like this before (i.e. a "dance" track), but as I mentioned in another reply above I pretty much treated it like a pop/rock song in terms of song structure.  As for the textures I always try to find things that sound good next to each other as complements.  When two sounds are very similar I do my best to EQ (sometimes drastically) and/or pan them apart.
 
I'm very pleased you liked it. :)

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/26 20:58:09 (permalink)
I'd say you nailed the genera.
 
"Mind the gap..."


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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/26 21:15:31 (permalink)
Not normally the kind of music I listen to - but this is very entertaining - very nice.

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/27 01:53:55 (permalink)
Not my thing either but it sounds like a well balanced mix....my only little crit is the kick doesn`t seem to have enough low end oomph to it...you know the below 50 that you feel but not necessarily hear. 


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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/28 16:28:18 (permalink)
Sounds very convincing to me - best track I've heard today
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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/28 17:17:51 (permalink)
Not really the kind of music that I listen to, but it's well done. (I appreciate this because I can't begin to write stuff like this). A couple of catchy little "riffs" there. Reminds me of video game music. 
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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/29 07:05:44 (permalink)
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I'd say you nailed the genera.
 
"Mind the gap..."



Thanks for the listen and the pic Robbie.  And the double entendre too. :)



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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/29 07:08:49 (permalink)
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Not normally the kind of music I listen to - but this is very entertaining - very nice.



Thanks Mark.  I appreciate you stepping out of your comfort listening zone to check it out.
 
alkie
Not my thing either but it sounds like a well balanced mix....my only little crit is the kick doesn`t seem to have enough low end oomph to it...you know the below 50 that you feel but not necessarily hear. 



You're probably right about the kick Alan.  Especially in a dance track.  I don't have a lot of experience with this sort of stuff.  Thanks for the tip!

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/29 07:15:01 (permalink)
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Sounds very convincing to me - best track I've heard today



Thanks Charlie!  Very kind words.
 
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Not really the kind of music that I listen to, but it's well done. (I appreciate this because I can't begin to write stuff like this). A couple of catchy little "riffs" there. Reminds me of video game music. 



Thanks for listening and commenting Sean.  Apparently writing dance tracks is easy!  I'd never done it before and yet this song seems to be pretty well received here on the Songs forum.  I've been exploring my synths more and more recently and kept running into these dance sounds and arpeggiations.  So I found a few that I liked and voila.  Not a lot of deep meaning here though. ;)

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/09/29 10:13:49 (permalink)
Nice job.  

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Re: Mind the Gap 2013/10/01 12:13:39 (permalink)
Thanks Rimshot!

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