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Missing Person (2012)
This song was originally written back in 2009 as a writing/recording challenge by Robby Robbins. I took some liberty with it and rewrote it lyrically. The original version from 2009 is on my sound click here> http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=7520478 if you have the time, listen to this original version first. I figured that with everything that Robby and I have learned over the years we could, and should redo this tune. It would provide an interesting look at how we have both progressed musically over the last 3 years. I started to work on it as a full country band version, but after talking with Robby, decided to go in a totally different direction with the production. Totally 100% acoustic..... no midi. Use mics to record it. So... here's the breakdown of this project. I salvaged a few of the tracks from 2009 that were worth keeping. Fiddles and the dobro leads and that was about all that is common to both versions. The decision was made to record everything else again. There are 10 vocal tracks... 5 by Robby and 5 by me. one lead each and 4 BGV's. 1 track: Scott Campbell is playing the fiddle in his classic and brilliant fashion. 7 tracks: Robby is playing acoustic guitar, dobro, and fretless bass. 4 tracks: I am playing acoustic guitar and mandolin. A total of 22 tracks with lots of panning and volume envelopes. Much time went into this project and we sincerely hope that you enjoy this new acoustic version. Thanks Robby for playing and singing on this new version. We present, for your listening pleasure Missing Person (2012 acoustic version) http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11962059 Enjoy.
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 14:25:46
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 14:34:34
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Great job on both tracks especially the acoustic one. I also see the tremolo part still remained. Gives one that old "Saloon" feel (I do realize the genre, but nonetheless). Never right, never wrong, I can write a tune all day long Nothing like the good ole I-IV-V! (Had to. Sorry!) Wonderful job by both again. In general, some songs sound better when played acoustically. I read the explanation for the rewrite, but what prompted the original to begin with?
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 14:49:41
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Robby... 100%! Rus W: It was back in 2009 that Imogen Heap released the vocals to her song (The Song That Never Was) that I and a few others here covered. A few weeks ago....Tom & I just had newer versions posted here.... anyway, I think a few other cakers grabbed that vocal track at the same time and did a version of it. After that passed into the digital abyss, a few weeks later Robbie came out with a cool challenge....he had written a lyric and anyone who wanted it could get a copy. The challenge was to put your own melody, chords, style, and creativity towards finishing the song and everyone would post it on the same day...about 6 weeks away if I recall correctly. A number of cakers jumped into that project.... me included. IIRC, we had blues versions, rock versions, electronica versions and country versions. It was a very unique project as everyone, using the same lyrics, came up with close to a dozen versions, none of which sounded anything alike. I think someone cataloged them all to a web page or something.... (does anyone remember?) I took the lyrics Robby wrote and did what I do, which was to rewrite them even more....changing and adding to what he had started with .... everyone else followed the rules and used Robby's lyrics "as is"..... any way... that was how this song came to be.
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 15:19:10
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Yeah, this is actually a very storied song... I wrote it many years ago for Miss April who was a missing person in my life... She later died from cancer. She also inspired many other songs I've written. When I went to record it, I told my son I was working on a new song called "Missing Person" My ex was listening in and called the cops and said I was threatening to make her a missing person and had a restraining order sworn out against me. I also sent it out to 9 different people who stepped up to the task and did 9 different versions of it, in all genera's from cowboy country (thank you Herb!) to smooth jazz (thank you Frank) to a hard rock version, a soft piano version, a trip hop version, it was was really wild! And fun :-) I called the project "Missing People" and the song was actually used as evidence in a case in Georgia! Pretty wild.
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 15:39:26
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That is really fine boys... So well done... I love it...
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 17:04:16
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Holy Cow! What a difference! The new version has a much more clear and open mix. Robby's additions make it real special too.
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 21:11:21
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Thanks Scotty! I think it's much better too, Herb and I really put some harmony in there :-) However, I still feel your fiddle parts are the high part of the song.
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 21:12:10
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Robby: I had remembered it was about Miss April but had forgotten the other stuff..... wow... evidence in an Atlanta courtroom.... did the judge like the song? Frank: thank you for listening When you are impressed, I feel I have done my job well. Scotty: thank you...and same thing I said to Frank..... yes, I would say there is a difference.... after all, it has been 3 years and we've all learned a lot in that time.... This is a good example of how time and applying your lessons and the things you study does make a difference. the first version, back in March 2009, when I recorded it, I thought, it was really good, and it was at the time, since it was the best I could do then. The difference is startling on the second mix.... it's just been a matter of sticking with it and working though a bunch of songs, mixes, situations, and learning something from them all. No magic, no slick tricks, just the results of work...lots of work, and more yet to go.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2012/10/24 21:14:29
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 21:16:30
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It never went to trial because there's no way they could have convicted me of anything. They're lucky I don't sue their ... for false arrest. But I had "all 9 versions ready to be submitted in to evidence." Your honor, exhibit A, a cowboy country version of the song. Note how non-threatening Mr. Hartley's voice sounds.
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 21:18:27
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I like it.... the word you were looking for....a popular one around here.....arse. yeah I'm glad to see you updated your bucket list.
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 21:26:41
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I remember the original, but I played it some for a reference. I didn't get far into it before I switched it off. the mix on that original really needed a lot of work. man, this new version is really great! excellent job all around guys! fantastic job!
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 21:28:12
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Thanks Reece.... yeah the old one is hard for me to listen to as well after working on this new one.
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 21:55:33
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 21:57:02
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The only thing that could make this cowboy country, any more cowboy country? Would be a lone coyote in the distance on the break, the sound of a campfire, and some farting... Herb sounds like a cowboy :-)
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 22:05:26
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Guys, Wow, sounds great. Pretty big diff from the original version. As an aside, we have coyotes in the back yard and their howling it did in fact add to the western ambience:) Really good. Regards
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 22:14:59
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Alegria is the one who put them all up on his website. Not sure if they're still there. This is great, you guys! No surprise there, with all this talent aboard. ;)
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 22:34:08
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nice mix, sounds really good!
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 22:40:21
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It's all band in a box? I even "literally" climbed in to a box when I played the fretless track? I was holding down the bottom? Like a male lead in an inappropriate video. (I apologize for that right there Lord.)
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 23:01:54
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The Band19 Yeah, this is actually a very storied song... I wrote it many years ago for Miss April who was a missing person in my life... She later died from cancer. She also inspired many other songs I've written. When I went to record it, I told my son I was working on a new song called "Missing Person" My ex was listening in and called the cops and said I was threatening to make her a missing person and had a restraining order sworn out against me. I also sent it out to 9 different people who stepped up to the task and did 9 different versions of it, in all genera's from cowboy country (thank you Herb!) to smooth jazz (thank you Frank) to a hard rock version, a soft piano version, a trip hop version, it was was really wild! And fun :-) I called the project "Missing People" and the song was actually used as evidence in a case in Georgia! Pretty wild. My condolences! Glad you let it out. I'm leaving that rather obvious (for lack of a better term) comment alone! *embarrassed face* Nice to see you had so many collaborations! Again, I really like what Herb did with it; of course, heard the other versions yet. Are they posted somewhere? Your tune was Exhibit A? If ever you opted for a connotation! haha! Great job to everyone involved including the not heard versions.
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 23:07:36
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Your honor, note the subtle harmonies? If this were a death metal song, my client could concede some threatening connotations. However, who among us has felt threatened by Roy Rogers? Move to dismiss...
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Rus W
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 23:14:29
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^ Do you know you're talking to?
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 23:22:23
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I hope you're not a freaking Judge Rus... LOL! hahahaha
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/24 23:33:23
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If you are a judge or a counselor? I throw myself on the mercy of the court. If you're a bailiff? I think I can take you... If you're a court reporter? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW! It's all been expunged in a bath for quite a while now. I just wish it had a happy ending... (the bath)
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/25 01:31:08
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and now or something completely different...
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/25 03:59:20
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^ No, but if I were I hold you in contempt for disrupting proceedings. Due process. You do want a speedy & fair trial, no?
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/25 07:29:36
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Awesome guys, I'm not a big fan of modern country, this takes me back to the days when country was cool. Great vox and instrumentaion. Production even has that classic country sound. I really dig it
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/25 07:39:28
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REALLY nice job on the new mix! I love the jangly sound of that acoustic guitar. Very open and present mix, and each part is definable in its own space. Who says we don't get better with age???? Now send me down a beer please....
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/25 08:27:46
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Mark, Mark Janet and another Marcus.... thanks for listening. Grant and Tony.... glad you like it..... The "jangly / tremolo sounding thing is not a guitar.... it is an actual real Fender Mandolin. I have always liked the sound of a mandolin and tried to emulate that sound with a guitar on numerous projects in the past but a guitar doesn't have those double strings like a mandolin. So when I saw a mandolin on Craigs list last year... I called and bought it. I have been working and practicing to try to get clean notes out of it...and the finger patterns are not like a guitar so I'm still trying to learn that aspect of the instrument.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2012/10/25 08:32:38
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Re:Missing Person (2012)
2012/10/25 10:29:26
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I think this is the definitive version...it works the best with the lyrics, and evokesthe plaintiveness of loss without going all emo.
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