Mix Recall: Do you use it? Is it reliable?

I've noted it can be slow reloading your settings but when you realise how much it might have to do it's not surprising. Think what it took to load the song in the first place. Of course this is dependent on the size of the mix and the number of parameters you're recalling. To get it into perspective, I'm talking many seconds not minutes.

Only time I've used it is for mix reset and anytime I do it, the the prochannel is randomly turned on.

If only one could cross use mix recall with different projects.
Be able to load settings from one project to the next. imagine the possibility's.
no more spending years setting up projects that all go to the same album (similar settings).

Chuck: I remember Noel explaining how to do just that when it was first released. Could kick myself for not keeping the info. It had to do with having a 2nd project open.

John
Here is what I think of Mix Recall. http://forum.cakewalk.com...es-m3237877.aspx 
 

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EDIT: Odd. Link works from the quote but not from John's message.

mudgel
Chuck: I remember Noel explaining how to do just that when it was first released. Could kick myself for not keeping the info. It had to do with having a 2nd project open.

 
Nice catch Mike. Thanks a bunch.
I was even considering hacking mix recall to do this (possibly changing project/scene name).
This is exactly what I've been looking for.

John
Mike this might be the one you are talking about. http://forum.cakewalk.com/Mix-Recall-across-multiple-projects-m3442977.aspx
 
Here is what I think of Mix Recall. http://forum.cakewalk.com...es-m3237877.aspx 
 

That's it John. thank you kindly sir. In this post:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3443010
 
I will probably make a back up just in case things go a little crazy.

It's a good feature and for me it has worked reliably in the past few months. I use it for what it's meant: mixing when arranging is done, so no shuffling clips or tracks around. Also, soft synths are converted to audio and recall of VSTi disable when I use it. This way the recall a lot quicker.

paulo
I tried it once and it didn't really seem to be any quicker than a "save as" and then re-open the previous version, so that was that. The news that it doesn't remember any clip changes that may have been made now makes it completely pointless for me. When I first saw it, I thought that it would make it easier to A/B mixes without that time inbetween playing each one where it's easy to forget exactly how the other version sounded. 

I'm old enough to have worked on the first digital consoles that had mix recall, which the SONAR feature emulates. I was glad for it then, and I'm glad for it now. There are several significant advantages to Mix Recall compared to Save As.
 

• Recall information for the entire project, or just selected tracks. So for example if you thought an early mix did the best job on the drum tracks but a later mix was better with everything else, recall the older mix only for the selected drum tracks. Or...recall only Track or only Bus automation. 
• You can recall just the FX settings - great for when you're trying to balance EQ among tracks.
• All the Mix information is associated with the project and accessible from within the project.
• You can choose what to recall. If all you recall is automation, then projects load quickly. What really slows things down is if you reload samplers with big libraries - but you can tell Mix Recall not to do that.
• Conversely, you can use that to your advantage by loading mixes with different (for example) drum module kits to hear what works best with the song.
• You can toggle between the two most recent mixes.
• It's easy to export all or only selected mix scenes at once. So if you've run off different versions for different people in a band, select those mixes and export them in one fell swoop. And for remixes, this is a killer feature. You can also export mixes with varying degrees of squashing and master bus compression to let the client decide what they like.

 
So I think Mix Recall is very cool. The key to getting the most out of it is understanding the Mix Recall settings options. If you don't know how those work, you might as well not use Mix Recall.
 
 

I don't really get this feature. Why is saving a mix different from saving the project. What part of a project is not part of the mix? Audio clips, midi clips, softsynths, effects, track settings, automation. What else is there?

Anderton
So I think Mix Recall is very cool. The key to getting the most out of it is understanding the Mix Recall settings options. If you don't know how those work, you might as well not use Mix Recall.
 
 

That needs to be emphasised *100

Mix recall options unlock its full power and control its speed. Those of you comparing it to mix recall on digital consoles should remember that consoles like e.g. X32 don't use any 3rd party plugs - and recalling e.g. a Sonar mix that only relies on the ProChannel is also quick

Kev999
I don't really get this feature. Why is saving a mix different from saving the project. What part of a project is not part of the mix? Audio clips, midi clips, softsynths, effects, track settings, automation. What else is there?

Everything else that went into making my song sound great that I don't want you to hear
There is some truth to what I'm saying ....... even though I may have said this kidding around w you 
 
I have used Mix Recall various ways . It has proven to be a feature I'm glad to have in SONAR .  
 
A couple of fast uses in the most simplest of terms .
 
I have always put a lot of playing parts into my songs using synths , guitars and various other tools and musical instruments ...
Things can get a little dense . Often times it is simply much better for me to keep what I have laid down and do a critical listening session later on when I'm in a more objective state of mind ...
I like to use Mix Recall VIA a subtraction principle to flesh out my song ideas ...think the statue David as the chisel removes all that is not David. 
 
As a guitarist I have used Mix Recall to audition some of my guitar sounds that I may want to print ....
Doubled or cloned tracks of guitars using various different effects chains and amp sims...
Mix Recall makes it pretty easy to create mix's I can listen to and live with for a spell as I decide away from my DAW what sounds the best to my ears and artistic vision ...
 
Rather than go on and on and give a few dozen examples of things I like about Mix Recall I think one of the things I like the most about M R  is this ....
Mix Recall is always sitting there silently in the cut just waiting for me to spend another hundred or two hours learning how to get much better at using a computer and DAW VIA tutorials , videos , the written word or anyway that happens to bump up my skills another notch ....
 
I have found it to be a very interesting experience to go back to a project where I had been using Mix Recall .
When I went back after learning a few new to me things I was able to dial it in a lot faster because I had a lot of failed mix's to compare in my project
 
Mix Recall has saved me from a lifetime of having to live with song posters regret
 
all the best,
 
Kenny
 

Rob[atSound-Rehab]

Kev999
But what can it do that Save As can't do? I must be missing something obvious.

Partial recall ... meaning you can take drum sub mix from mix A and vox FX from mix B ...

How you do that with 2 saved files????

Hmmmm .......I am finally starting to get the concept and viable uses of the Mix Recall feature by this simple and concise response.

Kev999
But what can it do that Save As can't do? I must be missing something obvious.

See post #18.