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MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
Try it! its a scaled down Sonar... this is a fast review...
Used Cakewalk plugs all my plugs look like that work...
My old IK moog works!
free for 14 days! and right now $99 for pro....
I really hope you folks look at this before buying anything...
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/25 18:53:20
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The demo with the built-in plugins sounds great! I like the fact that they're a small but passionate company. I don't think they're owned by some massively in-debt corporation either.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/25 19:39:49
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☄ Helpfulby Greybeard 2017/11/25 22:21:51
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Try it! its a scaled down Sonar... this is a fast review...
If this were a Cubase, Pro Tools, or Studio One forum, and the DAW of affection had just been Gibsoned, I can see members making exactly the same statement in regard to their favorite DAW (except for Pro Tools, where members who tried it would probably call Mixcraft a "scaled-up" version). I think this kind of reaction to Mixcraft is mostly psychological. All linear DAWs share more features than they exclude. What Mixcraft does, better than any other platform, IMO, is make all of those shared features much more intuitive. If you have used another DAW, you know what you are trying to do. When you open Mixcraft, your brain makes guesses as to how to make it do what you want, and probably more than 90% of the time, your brain's first guess is correct. This, is what yields the illusion of DAW scaling. For bread and butter tasks like laying down VSTi tracks, audio tracks, assembling clips, and editing MIDI or audio tracks, RTFM is, simply, not required for most people. It wasn't until Mixcraft 7 that I ever even looked at the manual, and that was only as a guide for using some of the newer features of that release (the fact that Acoustica provided a full hard-copy manual with the Pro version of 7, is probably why I even bothered looking there in the first place). Mixcraft has even been an innovator in providing useful features in its interface. For example, Mixcraft had refined "Musical Typing" on a QWERTY keyboard three years before it appeared in Sonar, it out ACIDed ACID for track envelope drawing at least from Version 3 (the first I tried, and at about the same time ACID 7 was starting to behave like a DAW), and, since it is primarily a DAW and not a video NLE, it has continually out VEGASed VEGAS in providing a way to score complex musical tracks for video, something that it does better than probably any DAW other than Digital Performer. Mixcraft isn't Sonar, nor is it any other high-end DAW. Mixcraft is, well..., Mixcraft, and there is a lot to love about it. I suggest that skeptics heed 11Dreams advice and just "Try it!"
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/25 20:13:25
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hey, Well you could be right about that "all DAWs are around the same".
I tested ProTool last night and this morning. It is easy to use. But that hasn't been a problem for me this time around.
It feels dated. and for $1000.00 not on sale or other ways they push it is over hipped!
VS.
MixCraft ($179.00 Not on sale) even if they did fail... you still avoided having to upgrade to the NEXT ProTools.
I was with Sonar for many reasons and MixCraft fits better for me right now.
I put this post up to hear what people who have it or use it would hopefully give feed back.
MixCraft has been around since like 98. so there is a track record.
Both ProTools and MixCraft where simple to install. I like that.
Both seem solid!
I'm still not done looking... :)
Peace! :)
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/25 20:15:09
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Sacalait
The demo with the built-in plugins sounds great! I like the fact that they're a small but passionate company. I don't think they're owned by some massively in-debt corporation either.
hum? built in plugins? I just selected the folders and hit scan VSTs :)
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/25 20:45:50
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☄ Helpfulby Starise 2017/11/26 00:59:16
I haven't seen anything yet that impresses me the way Sonar's ProChannel does :-(
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/25 20:52:59
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How's the video editing part? It kinda sparked my interest
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/25 22:31:58
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I, too, was quite impressed by Mixcraft. In my mind, it had been a dumbed-down DAW for singer-songwriters. But that was based on a long-ago quick look, now outdated. So many great features now. I feel like I could slip into it effortlessly, probably more so than any other DAW.
Having an Android app for remote transport control is a plus, since I've yet to replace my beloved Tranzport that died with Windows 7. Presonus has an app, too, but only for iOS. I'm not going to by an iPad for that.
Don't know about video, though.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/25 22:45:11
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/25 23:13:18
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Presonus has an app, too, but only for iOS. I'm not going to by an iPad for that.
Not true, it is available for android as well, I am running it on android. I don't get how people come to the conclusions they do, they must obviously not look or give anything a thorough try, it's bewildering. The info is available right there in your face. it says it straight up. https://www.presonus.com/.oducts/Studio-One-Remote
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/25 23:25:04
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2017/11/29 23:48:47
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/25 23:53:28
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It's way behind Sonar but might grow in a few years,, It did have one feature I wished Sonar had, in the PVR the note names show inside the note graphics or what ever they are called. Of all the DAW's I've demoed so far it's the only one I actually liked right away. But I don't need it.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 00:20:33
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Started out using Mixcraft 6 as I just wanted to get ideas down for the rest of the band ready for rehearsals but as I got more into it I purchased Cubase Elements which was a significant step to make. Knowing what I was missing out on with not being able to buy Cubase Pro outright I came across Cakewalks subscription offer & found everything about Sonar a joy to work with.
Got me thinking as a company like Magix have survived okay & they charge £449.99 for their Samplitude Pro X3 Suite
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 00:34:39
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I love the presonus remote. I use on Windows and Android all the time
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 05:36:04
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I bought it tonight because it was on sale for $99 US. My initial impression:
I spent a couple of hours on it. It seems that if you're doing straight up "tape machine" type recording, it's fine.
It's pretty intuitive. I got around to creating tracks, importing audio, adding effects, and adjusting things pretty quickly.
I'll give it a shot but will probably get Studio One as well.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 05:52:25
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It looks more like SONAR 8.5 with some nice additions from later version. Docking, for example, which is integral to the way I work. I thought I saw a matrix type thing.
Something SONAR never had - nice video tutorials that give you the basics and goes slowly. Not that I need a lot of the beginner stuff and "What is aVSTi's," but it is nice to follow a project from the start and go, "yea, that is right and that is different." IF SONAR had similar tutorials about half the forum post would be gone where newbies asked exactly those kind of questions. Excellent stuff, Acoustica.
Anyone thinking of the program ought to check out the videos.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 05:59:47
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fade ins/outs and clip volume control is not very good in mixcraft compared with sonar
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 15:11:22
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Hi FemcanLana, Regarding video editing, Mixcraft 8 supports MP4, WMV, AVI, WMA and OGG. You can edit video the same way you edit audio using cut, copy, paste, extend, frame cross fades, and insert images and text. Text can be static or in motion, fade in/out, drop shadow, horizontal, vertical. 25 Transition effects. One click simultaneous publishing to Youtube, Vimeo.  FemcanLana
How's the video editing part? It kinda sparked my interest
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 17:20:50
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Hi FemcanLana,
Regarding video editing, Mixcraft 8 supports MP4, WMV, AVI, WMA and OGG. You can edit video the same way you edit audio using cut, copy, paste, extend, frame cross fades, and insert images and text. Text can be static or in motion, fade in/out, drop shadow, horizontal, vertical. 25 Transition effects. One click simultaneous publishing to Youtube, Vimeo.
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How's the video editing part? It kinda sparked my interest
Thank you! Does it handle gif pics?
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 17:37:38
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Video editing in Mixcraft is more comprehensive than any other DAW I've used. One of the main people behind Mixcraft was a key part of the Vegas team...and it shows. It always surprised that a little company like Acoustica could build in better video capabilities than Pro Tools, with its Avid pedigree.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 17:45:37
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All this talk of video editing makes me wonder. I already Premiere and After Effects for that. A video player in a DAW is a must, but editing? Wouldn't that development effort have been better spent on the DAW side of things?
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 17:50:11
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All this talk of video editing makes me wonder. I already Premiere and After Effects for that. A video player in a DAW is a must, but editing? Wouldn't that development effort have been better spent on the DAW side of things?
Depends. If you're into audio for video, a lot of times Mixcraft is all you need. And again, it wasn't like they had to do some massive R&D effort, the company knows video.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 18:29:00
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Right now I'm using Sonar and Vegas (a light version) to do small instructional video's. Simple stuff. Mixcraft will allow me to downsize to 1 program. That's pretty big. I've been using the demo all weekend and just loving it. For those that need live performance features, have a look at what MIxcraft did with markers. Miles ahead of the industry IMHO.
After the holidays I'm buying it. The few features it's lacking may come to be down the road.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 20:30:05
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Right now I'm using Sonar and Vegas (a light version) to do small instructional video's. Simple stuff. Mixcraft will allow me to downsize to 1 program. That's pretty big. I've been using the demo all weekend and just loving it. For those that need live performance features, have a look at what MIxcraft did with markers. Miles ahead of the industry IMHO.
After the holidays I'm buying it. The few features it's lacking may come to be down the road.
Yeah, after checking out some demos the past several days, I think Mixcraft's video handling is what makes it a real gem. It's does what I thought Sonar and other DAWs should have been concentrating on with video for at least several years. I realize other companies probably don't have the experience Mixcraft developers do, but youtube has become one big platform for promotion and instruction for a pretty long time, and video still seems to be an afterthought for most DAW developers. Pretty much anyone can shoot video these days, and even if you don't want to do that, the ability to use text and stills to create lyric videos or promotional videos on the same timeline as audio AND midi is kind of a big deal. I was surprised to see the Studio One developers even have to ask if being able to export the finished video is that important. :-) The mentality still seems to be that the only reason you would be working with video is for film and tv for some reason. So I think even if I pick up S1 or something, I still want to support Mixcraft. The rest of the program is pretty solid too at this point, and I'm sure it will only get better.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/26 22:20:06
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I have been teetering back and forth between Sonar and Mixcraft for a while. It seems Gibson may have just helped me make a decision.
I had just gotten the Sonar console view comfortably customized for my work flow, decided to use it as my DAW of choice, signed up for "lifetime" updates, and then, kapow! The excrement hit the fan. (whose lifetime were they talking about anyway?)
I started with Mixcraft 6, and it has gotten progressively better with each version. MC8 was a big step forward. Although perhaps not as deep as Sonar, it may be deep enough. Many of the features included in Sonar I do not use anyway. And the ease of use in Mixcraft is very refreshing.
Also, Mixcraft may not be the lightweight many perceive it to be. There are the video capabilities mentioned above, and it also had many new features before Sonar did. (Take lanes, automation lanes to name a couple)
So while I feel the loss of Cakewalk, and I have been with them since Guitar Tracks 2, I do already have an alternative in place for my personal use. And I also have many quality 3rd party plug-ins from SoundToys, the plug-in Alliance and others. So as a home recordist this will have little impact on my music creation. That said.... All the best to the Bakers and all others for whom this event may cause distress, inconvenience and expense.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/27 02:18:41
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I, too, was quite impressed by Mixcraft. In my mind, it had been a dumbed-down DAW for singer-songwriters. But that was based on a long-ago quick look, now outdated. So many great features now. I feel like I could slip into it effortlessly, probably more so than any other DAW.
Having an Android app for remote transport control is a plus, since I've yet to replace my beloved Tranzport that died with Windows 7. Presonus has an app, too, but only for iOS. I'm not going to by an iPad for that.
Don't know about video, though.
My tranZport works fine with Windows 10 and sonar. It is also working with Studio One now. Just FYI. Also the studio one remote app works pretty good although it's awful tiny on my phone.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/27 02:19:08
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Just broke the ice with Mixcraft but at first glance it is really solid for the type of recording I do. Have not edited in it yet but if that goes well, we may have a winner.
$99, I just bought it. Hell, I threw that much away on Sonar "Lifetime".
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/27 02:21:47
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I know a lot of people are attracted by the claims of a small, software-only company, but to me that's very scary now after what just happened. I want something backed by some deeper pockets who don't have all their eggs in one basket.
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Re: MixCraft may as well be Sonar.
2017/11/27 02:29:05
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I also just bought Mixcraft because I really like the program. With a program this good, it won't be long until they are a very successful company.
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