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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/03 10:15:50 (permalink)
cactus

thanks man, i'm looking for translation!!

heheh

"I was looking for translation in all the wrong places
 Looking for translation in too many faces 
Searching your eyes, looking for traces Of what..
 I'm dreaming of... 
Hopin' to find a friend and a lover 
God bless the day I discover
 Another heart, lookin' for translation"


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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/03 10:16:51 (permalink)
don't take that the wrong way...




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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/03 11:15:00 (permalink)

updated mix 10-3


http://soundcloud.com/bats-brew/moonshine-ver3-1

i think this one is a better version, with edited solo guitar tracks, new panning scheme, a lot of small tweaks that add up to dial it in more.

but

i might have reduced the bass guitar a bit in the mastering, still not sure about the low end translation now.
of course, it never ends.
LOL

that would be an easy fix, i think it's ok in the mix, but i used Multiband comp on the mastering of this one, and did not on the first one.

even tho i set it for a long attack, and not much compression, it might have smoothed it off a bit too much.
still on the fence with that one.


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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/04 10:31:07 (permalink)
bump for the new version

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/04 11:25:58 (permalink)
Just listened on low-end PC speakers and sounds fine, mixwise. The songwriting is nice, vocals great, guitar playing great. Caused me to go listen to some of your other stuff -- listening to Pali Face right now...that is some serious fretwork! I like the tone & effects on the guitar -- Channeling David Gilmour.

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/04 11:51:05 (permalink)
Dude!  If moonshine will make me sound this good, I'll take TWO gallons!  This is "guitars done right". Might like to hear your voice a scoche louder...don't hide it.

Awesome.

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/04 11:58:31 (permalink)
I forgot to mention that your song loosely reminds me of some Poco I used to listen to back in the 70's...and they sounded great.

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Re:MoonShine --- with updated mix 10-3 2012/10/04 12:02:02 (permalink)
The new mix is better than ever!  I'll be listening to this several more times.

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/04 12:30:59 (permalink)
Just awesome, I love this. Has a fleetwood Mac feel to it, Ace!

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/04 16:51:13 (permalink)

cwestmont
nice man, thanks
low end pc speakers, yep, that's a set i don't really have to check against, so it's good to know there is some decent translation there...

i have a set of speakers from my old jam box, some panasonic boom box speakers:



i've been thinking of throwing these on top of my monitors, and switching them over to the headphone amp i'm using (a yamaha natural sound reciever).....

now, that pali face thing, i wrote and recorded back in 1999, that was done standing very close to an extremely loud and wide open 60 watt mesa boogie head and cab, i use that song as my demonstration for working with controlled feedback from proximity effect
and yea, gilmour would be a touchstone there

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/04 16:53:52 (permalink)

tbosco
thanks for listening, your moonshine is...... 'in transit'










heheh


poco, i remember them.
don't hear that name dropped every day!



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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/04 16:55:42 (permalink)

lynn
thanks for comparing those two...
i'm really trying to hone it down, basically craft a mix.
i ended up taking out a lot more than i leave in.
that's probably a good thing!!



StinGA
thanks for listening.
fleetwood mac........ would that be peter green era, or post green?!


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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/04 17:00:11 (permalink)
Batsbrew - not sure how I missed this before - this is excellent.
Listening to the latest mix and everything sounds fantastic here
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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/05 06:57:46 (permalink)
batsbrew


lynn
thanks for comparing those two...
i'm really trying to hone it down, basically craft a mix.
i ended up taking out a lot more than i leave in.
that's probably a good thing!!



StinGA
thanks for listening.
fleetwood mac........ would that be peter green era, or post green?!

I'd say Peter Green era.



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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/05 09:10:05 (permalink)
Send Daisy Dukes with that moonshine, will ya?

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/05 15:00:04 (permalink)

daryl
glad you caught up with this one...
thanks for commenting
 
 
StinGA
ok, that's what i thought.

i mean, you know, i dig buckingham, his style, tone, and especially his writing and arrangment skills.
his singing is awesome.
but i do like peter green a bit more.
heheh


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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/05 15:12:03 (permalink)
tbosco, just for you




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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/12 10:34:09 (permalink)
last bump on this one, before i pull her down ......

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/13 22:13:25 (permalink)
Gonz, I love this - you are so versatile - and so dang talented.

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/14 13:32:52 (permalink)
THANKS MARK
i appreciate that

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/14 16:59:10 (permalink)

I remember this one , I like this new version ! You acoustic guitar really shines in this mix .

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/14 21:14:09 (permalink)
Fantastic performances and mix! Wow! 
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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/14 22:40:59 (permalink)
I like the way the acoustic guitar sounds in this song. The arrangement is pretty good too. great tune

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/16 11:54:48 (permalink)

hey guys/gals, thanks for continuing to check this one out, i thought it had faded away, and missed these recent comments


night fox
thank you for listening...
the guitars were making me 2nd guess....
because, it's a single guitar part, but it's played 4 different times, on two different guitars

i liked the phasing of all the strings together, with the different timbres, made it sound almost like a 12-string, even tho it's a standard 6

and i thought it may be overkill, when really one guitar tells the story...
but, the way it's panned, and played slightly different from each part, 
i thought it would fill out nicely.
so, i'm glad it's working out



Janet
thanks, i appreciate that!


marcus
glad you like this mix...
i used a Taylor 414 full sized auditorium for the parts panned hard left and right, and i used a Seagull Mosiac Artist for the 2ndary rhythm parts that come and go and fill out the midrange, and they are panned more like 50% left and right.
a single mic on them, i just position myself til i hear it good in the monitors/cans

i know where the sweet spot is on the taylor, the seagull was a bit trickier.

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/16 12:57:28 (permalink)
Heya Bat, great tune, sounds excellent on my HR824s. I get the feeling I still mix too quiet on my final mixes.

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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/16 15:24:03 (permalink)
tony
thanks for listening....
glad you cranked it on 8's, i assume if i had low end issues, they'd show up quicker on an 8" woofer.

i mix loud and quiet... to determine how things sit.

and i check mix with headphones (akg K240 II) and earbuds (sony MDR-EX71SL)  which go down to 6 hz.

and so if you want to have "LOUDER" mixes, which i assume you mean 'more upfront' and not necessarily louder 'energy wise', you might want to experiment more with compression and limiting.

you can do some pretty great limiting across acoustic guitar sub buses, for example, with the right settings, keep them very transparent....
but get the overall 'up frontedness' happening, which might help out the feeling of having mixes 'too soft' or 'quiet.


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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/18 19:01:08 (permalink)
Awright... this mix sounds smoother and more refined...
Vocals and guitars seem a little tighter... and a different effect on the lead guitar... yeah, this is happenin'...
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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/19 10:33:23 (permalink)
thanks nat!!

i thought this one had faded away.......


i walked away from this mix several times, to come back to it with a fresh perspective.

i stripped out quite a bit, which made it easier for a listener to get into.

i hear all this cool stuff, 'possibilities' if you will, while tracking...
and i go with them, knowing that i'll edit it out later.


then, i end up liking all of it, not wanting to edit it out.

LOL



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Re:MoonShine 2012/10/19 10:36:19 (permalink)
I'm hip to that brother... ;-)
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