MoonShine --- with updated mix 10-3

updated mix 10-3

http://soundcloud.com/bats-brew/moonshine-ver3-1



original mix:
http://soundcloud.com/bats-brew/moonshine-9-17

a Spacey acoustic/electric ode to moonshine, and it's after effects.
:)


i just finished putting my studio room together in the new old house i just moved into....
and this is my first project in there, with new monitor setup and all, i've got a completely new acoustic environment i'm going to have to learn to mix in.

this is a new version of this song, with added bass track and new mix from scratch.

this is the 1st song i used my new KSM44 to track with.

this features a Taylor 414 full sized grand auditorium, and a Seagull Artist Mosiac, mixed together, 
along with a custom build USACG stratocaster doing the electric work thru an old mesa boogie head.
Bass is a Carvin LB70, thru a sansamp bass di, mic pre and compressor.

it is mixed for a softer sound, and is not mastered hot, so CRANK it up.
it wants to be loud, it really does.

how does the low end translate on your system?
this is what i'm working on with this one.
i want the low end to be full, but not boomy.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://affotd.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/image0041.jpg&imgrefurl=http://affotd.com/2011/02/19/popcorn-sutton/&h=358&w=469&sz=84&tbnid=wFkwGCj4wmwb1M:&tbnh=95&tbnw=125&zoom=1&usg=__JEVuQYCjDJhrCONpN8rvQbhhGOU=&docid=yg-STsHXnCgEvM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=gwVaUP6qE7PyyAHfs4H4CA&ved=0CEEQ9QEwBA&dur=3093

nice   ....I'm on cheap computer speakers and it's fll but not boomy on these speakers. 

One of my new favs from you. 

hi batsbrew lot going on here however its all under control it keep me engaged all the way through all your stuff is top notch thanks for sharing eric

DIGI
Thanks for listening, yeah, ole popcorn sutton, was definitely an influence for this song.

let me know how it sounds on your big system as soon as you can listen there......


wookie
appreciate the review.
soft attack on bass......
i did play this with my fingers, and there are sections where i'm very mellow with the attack...
there is limiting and compression on the bass (i always track bass thru a dbx compressor, then i add limiting at the bass bus level, but the attack is usually backed off, with only about a 5 ms release..)
i want the bass to fill out the bottom of the acoustics, and not necessarily add percussion.

notnat
thanks for listening and critiqueing....

bluesier, this IS my bluesier!
LOL

but the comment about the vocals being overproduced a bit..
that kinda stumped me, because they are just basically raw captures, with a minimum of eq, close to dry, and simply mixed and panned.
one solo voice, one 2nd solo voice mixed in and out, and 3 part harmony.
that's just me singing and trying to blend my voices together, no real tricks or production other than faders up.

the elec guitar, busy, yeah, i'll buy that!
heheh

again, that's just the way i hear it, i don't want it real clean, i want it all kind of sloppy, like a moonshine hangover.
kinda the way i feel right now.......

eric paul
thanks for listening.....
yea, it's pretty moving, chord wise, yet laid back in the delivery.
that's kinda what i was going for with this 'moonshine' motif
 glad you dig it


guitartrek
thanks man, i have the k240's as well.
i spot check mixes with them, and use them during tracking.

i used the omni setting on the ksm44 for the guitars, not sure that's what i like, i'm still experimenting with that.
it'll be quite a few sessions with it, before i have it all figured out.

I'm glad I wasn't near an open flame when I listened to this volatile song.  It's amazing how different people hear things so differently, but I think this mix shines.  I like the balance from top to bottom, and I especially like your vocals.  Those Shure mics really do an outstanding job.  Congratulations for successfully transferring your production skills from one studio to another.

lynn
thanks, heheh, keep those flames off!

yes, learning the new studio 'sound' is really weird...
having to learn the monitors, all over again.
it took so long the first time, now again...



rikkie
appreciate the comments! thanks for helping out

I absolutely love the acoustic guitar sound in this. Now I know what I need to record my Martin...$999! That mic sure captures the guitar really well. Great tune!
 
Bass sounds great in the mix as well. I was slightly distracted by the movement of the strat as it seemed abrupt in a few spots, but that's probably just me
 
Regards,
Dan
 

dcumpian
hey, i apprecate the comments!
and yeah, there are plenty of good mics out there, especially for a grand, but i like the ksm44.
it works for me.

movement of the strat, yes, that'd be a 'production decision'.
LOL


and possibly a wrong one.....

i'm still debating certain mix elements, a couple of places i really WANTED it to stick out, but in others, i'd like it to work with the arrangement...
i like the occasional aural shock treatment, keeps the listener from getting too lazy.
heheh

Don't loose that moonshine jar!

THOUGHT I'D give it a weekend bump before i do the next mix on it...

P.S you asked about the low end.
The balance is fine on my set up (Rokit 5s or DT990 phones). I think how the low end weight gives a great foundation to the guitars and allow you to enjoy the guitars to the full without distracting. But when you listen for the bass guitar its self you can pick it out easily and enjoy its growly tone.

So just right IMO

STUART
thanks for listening, glad you liked it

i think the idea of filling out the low end, without swamping the guitars, is what i was after...
kinda what you are describing what you are hearing.
i did a new mix of this during the weekend work break, and i think i've been able to bring the guitars up without changing the bass dynamics....
i'll post the new one this evening
 
 
makke
glad you like this one..
thanks for commenting!