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More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
I'm still very cautious and wary of X1b being able to help all the folks that have had a such a terrible time with X1a but this post from Noel has my hopes up. If those plugs, which are going to live in many many Sonar Projects (Pro Channel for instance), might cause a crash when trying to access memory over 4 gigs then fixing that could fix so many issues with so many users. BRING IT ON! (In reference to This Thread and a crashing problem) "This issue is unlikely to be in SONAR itself but in a plugin. Without seeing the crash dump its difficult to ascertain what caused the actual crash. I'm not sure if this could be your issue but one of the issues addressed in the X1B patch (not new to X1B itself) was a problem with some in box effects and instruments which could under certain conditions have problems when accessing memory higher than 4GB. The following plugins have been updated and will no longer crash under these conditions. - Boost11
- Channel Tools
- Linear Phase EQ
- Linear Phase Multiband Compressor
- ProChannel
- PX-64 Percussion Strip
- VX-64 Vocal Strip
- TS-64 Transient Shaper
- TL-64 Tube Leveler
- Session Drummer 3
- Studio Instruments - Bass
- Studio Instruments - Drums
- Studio Instruments - Piano
- Studio Instruments - Strings
If you have any of these in the project its possible that this could be your problem."
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 16:03:35
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14 Cakewalk plug ins... each with a bug in 64bit OS.
Some of the plug ins are 3-4 years old.
The program has been native 64bit for the past 5 versions.
It seems as if your having learned of this has inspired you to become so optimistic that you have copied and pasted someone else's post and started a thread so as to publicly profess some sort of love affair with your DAW.
Thanks for the news... I'm not sure how to take it... it seems like one half of a glass of something.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 16:17:26
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Mike, read my post again. And maybe again. The intent is clear and nothing like what you suggest.
As I wrote above I've been cautious and wary about X1b. Let me explain again and you can read into whatever you'd like. I have/had a bad feeling that X1b will not help the many users that are having such bad crash problems that they cannot really use X1 with any success. After reading the above post I thought that maybe this will help some of those users and that X1b will solve more problems than I originally thought.
I'm not sure where you're reading that I've "become so optimistic that you have copied and pasted someone else's post and started a thread so as to publicly profess some sort of love affair with your DAW."
Perhaps this post isn't meant for you but "love affair with your DAW"? Man sometimes I don't understand where you're coming from. I just thought this was some good news but perhaps you're right and I've merely developed an unhealthy love affair with my DAW, or perhaps you just like to stir the pot with some off-the wall semi-insulting comments. I'll go with the latter and assume you're just having a bad day or just need someone to mess with.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 16:26:45
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box effects and instruments which could under certain conditions have problems
I can't really judge this post either way without knowing what those conditions actually are. Is it combinations of various plug-ins? Is it sample rate or bit depth related? Would it be tied into latency, driver modes etc? All I care about is that hopefully it's fixed.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 16:34:53
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No Larry you didn't bash X1. That is the real sin. Now that Mike has put the required damper on this thread we may now proceed with a discussion about the good news. I got your point and I also hope the patch will help the ones that have crashing and other problems. But I didn't see how Noel's post will do much in that regard. After all how many have had problems with Dim Pro in older versions of Sonar. Not to mention graphics issues with the 64 line of plugins. This is not to say that we should expect problems from the patch just its going to be like any other patch in the past. It will fix lots of things but no software is going to be so bug free that somehow somewhere it wont find some way to crash. Though CW does have control over its plugins and we have seen what that means they have no control over third party plugins. For most of us that is still going to leave us vulnerable. Don't forget too that PCs vary so much that its a wonder so many do work with a program like Sonar anyway. Hope for the best but expect something less then perfect. Edit to add a few more thoughts. What has disturbed me about CW over the years is not the quality of Sonar but rather I feel that with some projects CW takes on they seem to at some point get bored with it and just let is lay. They have a habit of letting things just gather dust in some dark corner. Point in fact. The FX 3 Sound Stage one of the best and unique plugins anyone has ever put out. It was not free when it came out. Worth every penny too. But no further development was ever given to it. It could have been a super plugin with a new GUI and some thought about usability and then it could have been a great tool for surround sound. It was never given the care it deserved. We see, I believe, the same attitude with Sonar in general. Old code seems never to get looked at. Things such as the Staff view have had complaints for as long as I have been with this forum. Yet it has not been touched. There is a lot within Sonar that needs updating both in look and in function but CW seems unaware of this. For example take a look at the date on the Mackie Control DLL in your X1 directory. On mine it is dated 2005 for an offering in late 2010. That is five years of no change or added functions. The Mackie Control is capable of far more then the things CW has implemented with it but they do not see fit to address it with each new version of Sonar. Now with X1 some of the few things that it could do in the past are no longer supported by X1. This general method of not addressing all aspects of a program and its support files is a problem with CW that needs to change to a system where with each new upgrade we get a truly well thought out and up to date upgrade across all aspects of Sonar. Picking out one major thing and neglecting all the other things has been a problem for some time with CW. Adding a great new feature without making sure that the old feature are either working as they should or have been improved is the way CW works. This is one big reason I have been bullish about X1. I see as a new start for CW. I see it as a way for them to get deeper in the underlying code and make changes that can be done with less time. But just as this new version is touted to have those attributes seems to have missed the core programmers within CW. It seems that it will more then not contain costs but do little in getting at the need to redress the issues so many have talked about in every new year a new Sonar has come out. This has to change and more attention to detail needs to be the hallmark in the lab of CW.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 16:48:02
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Wow, Mike; having a rotten day today? Humble, I'm with you. Fixes in memory handling can make a lot of problems go away. One single memory bug-fix can turn a product around from the cat's litter box into the cat's meow. Just an observation. I look forward to X1B even though Sonar's not my cup of coffee at the moment. I really really do want to have another DAW. I have not thoroughly reviewed the change list, so I don't know if my number one need (more flexible bussing arrangements) would be available, or if my number two need (a tighter console view with HUGE neon meters that can be seen all the way from Montana) has been implemented. Or if my suggestions for improvements to Key Bindings or Color Selection have even been considered. But when X1B becomes available I shall download it and try it out, with "Sonar X1 Power" at my right hand. There are lots of good things to be had even in X1A. I just need more time and focus to figure it all out and incorporate it into my workflow. The only difference between December (when I burned nearly two weeks of vaction time trying to learn X1) and today is that I don't have vacation scheduled. Therefore, I'll need to be a lot more focused and much more circumspect about spending time in forum Love/Hate/Woe-is-me-and-the-future-of-music threads. I just will not have the time to keep donning my flame-****ant underwear. I suspect I'll have to skip a lot of threads (or maybe completely abstain from forum activity for a few weeks) in order to get anything useful done. Still. I look forward to it, even if it throws me out of my comfort zone a little bit. 
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 16:48:31
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John,
Here's what I read in Noel's post. That a plugin as simple and often used as the ProChannel might cause crashing when trying to access more than 4 gigs of memory. I'm thinking that could effect many users experiencing crashing.
I agree we should probably still keep expectations low but to my jaded eye this bit of info showed me 2 things. One, that the Bakers are trying to keep good on their (or at least Brandon's) word regarding circling back and fixing bugs old and new, and that X1b may include a lot more fixes than the previously published list. I have had almost no problems with X1a so my hope is for other users and a generally stable X1 for everyone.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 16:51:11
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Hey, good to see you PC. I'm a little like you in that my DAW days get numbered as work schedules and Spring/Summer arrive here in San Diego. Hope to see you around.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 16:51:44
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emwhy
box effects and instruments which could under certain conditions have problems
I can't really judge this post either way without knowing what those conditions actually are. Is it combinations of various plug-ins? Is it sample rate or bit depth related? Would it be tied into latency, driver modes etc? All I care about is that hopefully it's fixed.
+1
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 17:07:28
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HumbleNoise
John,
Here's what I read in Noel's post. That a plugin as simple and often used as the ProChannel might cause crashing when trying to access more than 4 gigs of memory. I'm thinking that could effect many users experiencing crashing.
I agree we should probably still keep expectations low but to my jaded eye this bit of info showed me 2 things. One, that the Bakers are trying to keep good on their (or at least Brandon's) word regarding circling back and fixing bugs old and new, and that X1b may include a lot more fixes than the previously published list. I have had almost no problems with X1a so my hope is for other users and a generally stable X1 for everyone.
Larry: I notice your Signature says you have 4MB of Ram (I'm sure you mean 4GB) If there is some truth to this post from Noel, you simply never went beyond that barrier, which would explain why you are not have so many issues. The same would apply to me, still on a 32 bit system with a 4 gig limit. Like you I'll stay cautiously optimistic and see what unfolds. In general though, I consider this to be good news. Thanks for posting as I seemed to have missed the original!
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 17:11:05
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HumbleNoise
If those plugs, which are going to live in many many Sonar Projects (Pro Channel for instance), might cause a crash when trying to access memory over 4 gigs then fixing that could fix so many issues with so many users. BRING IT ON!
Good point I believe. I have only 4 Gigs of ram and have been very stable.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 17:11:12
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Positively Charged
But when X1B becomes available I shall download it and try it out, with "Sonar X1 Power" at my right hand. There are lots of good things to be had even in X1A. I just need more time and focus to figure it all out and incorporate it into my workflow.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 17:13:18
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Go back and read what I added Larry. Mike too.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 17:14:12
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Why would some of you guys jump to a conclusion that I'm having a bad day?
Do you just want to be mad at me because you bought a program full of bugs you didn't know about or encounter?
Ok, go for it. I am having too nice a day for me to worry about it either way.
:-)
But... maybe this sort of circumstance can be kept in mind the next time somebody is tormenting someone else by insisting that it's more likely an end users system's fault rather than a demonstrated pattern of buggery on the part of a vendor.
Keep it real in 2011... it really matters.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 17:20:59
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John, Here's what I read in Noel's post. That a plugin as simple and often used as the ProChannel might cause crashing when trying to access more than 4 gigs of memory. I'm thinking that could effect many users experiencing crashing. I agree we should probably still keep expectations low but to my jaded eye this bit of info showed me 2 things. One, that the Bakers are trying to keep good on their (or at least Brandon's) word regarding circling back and fixing bugs old and new, and that X1b may include a lot more fixes than the previously published list. I have had almost no problems with X1a so my hope is for other users and a generally stable X1 for everyone. I have no doubt that the B patch will be a great fix and improvement. But if you read my added comments in the post above I think you will note another hope. One that will get at the fundamental reasons that we see this problem with each new version every time.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 17:21:34
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larry, i apreciate you posting it.i didnt see the other thread,but i know the only crashes ive had are due directly to plug ins.so this makes me very happy...right on.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 17:34:15
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I just watched this old movie about Michaelangelo and Pope Pius X....."The Agony And The Ecstasy"...why does this movie remind me so much about waiting for X1b? .....Pius X was half dead before Michaelangelo decided he was finished painting the Sistine Chapel ceiling in Rome. You know..the painting with God touching Adam's finger? I think that painting would be a great logo to represent our wait for X1b: Pius X: When will it be done? Michaelangelo: When I am finished! Pius X: (Angrily) And When will you be FINISHED!!!! Michaelangelo: WHEN I AM DONE!!!!!!! 
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 17:36:34
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Does that movie also have the scene about Michaelangelo putting the finishing touches on the David's nose to the customers satisfaction?
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 17:49:59
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John
John, Here's what I read in Noel's post. That a plugin as simple and often used as the ProChannel might cause crashing when trying to access more than 4 gigs of memory. I'm thinking that could effect many users experiencing crashing. I agree we should probably still keep expectations low but to my jaded eye this bit of info showed me 2 things. One, that the Bakers are trying to keep good on their (or at least Brandon's) word regarding circling back and fixing bugs old and new, and that X1b may include a lot more fixes than the previously published list. I have had almost no problems with X1a so my hope is for other users and a generally stable X1 for everyone.
I have no doubt that the B patch will be a great fix and improvement. But if you read my added comments in the post above I think you will note another hope. One that will get at the fundamental reasons that we see this problem with each new version every time.
Yes I did read your added comments and agree that if Cakewalk will circle back to all the features within X1 and make them each world class, without adding any new Whiz bang features, that X1, 2, 3, has the potential to be great. Perhaps X1 will give them that foundation, as you suggest.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 17:51:46
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HumbleNoise
John,
Here's what I read in Noel's post. That a plugin as simple and often used as the ProChannel might cause crashing when trying to access more than 4 gigs of memory. I'm thinking that could effect many users experiencing crashing.
I agree we should probably still keep expectations low but to my jaded eye this bit of info showed me 2 things. One, that the Bakers are trying to keep good on their (or at least Brandon's) word regarding circling back and fixing bugs old and new, and that X1b may include a lot more fixes than the previously published list. I have had almost no problems with X1a so my hope is for other users and a generally stable X1 for everyone.
Larry: I notice your Signature says you have 4MB of Ram (I'm sure you mean 4GB)
If there is some truth to this post from Noel, you simply never went beyond that barrier, which would explain why you are not have so many issues. The same would apply to me, still on a 32 bit system with a 4 gig limit.
Like you I'll stay cautiously optimistic and see what unfolds. In general though, I consider this to be good news. Thanks for posting as I seemed to have missed the original!
Always good reading your comments coda - and fixed my sig - thanks
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 19:43:32
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Another question I would have would be regarding the studio instruments suite. I don't recall those being 64 bit before they were ported over to SONAR from Guitar Tracks unless I missed some thing along the way.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 23:17:12
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X1 has to work since CW is betting the farm - 8.5 is off the radar screen for marketing/sales.
X1 has a bunch of 64 bit plugins that aren't tops but work. Then there is ProChannel which beats any plugin for smooth operation, being native and available all the time, and sounds great. The older 8.x series 64 bit effects are good but not great,
Not to worry - my exploration of new coded 64 bit plugins has me thinking my head has been in the sand worshiping UAD/Waves and those 32 bit dinosaurs. Sometimes doing the job right is better than emulating the job done by an analog compressor from 1960.
A friend who owns a studio told me he is staying on 32 bit XP because it's stable. Not me, I got a modern computer and want modern software, which I assume everyone on this forum does as well. Cheers.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/17 23:53:03
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Thugonyx@aol.com
I just watched this old movie about Michaelangelo and Pope Pius X....."The Agony And The Ecstasy"...why does this movie remind me so much about waiting for X1b?
Reminds me more of flagellants. 
"I pulled the head off Elvis, filled Fred up to his pelvis, yaba daba do, the King is gone, and so are you."
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/18 11:06:13
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Why would some of you guys jump to a conclusion that I'm having a bad day?
It wasn't "some guys". It was me. I'll own up to that, because your first post had a tone about it. Do you just want to be mad at me because you bought a program full of bugs you didn't know about or encounter?
Not mad at you. You are a valued forum member with a wealth of knowledge and experience to contribute. But Larry made a very good point strictly on a technical basis. You immediately discounted it as if to give no consideration to his logical thinking. That seemed a little abrupt to me. Keep it real, yes please do! But you don't need to go to extra effort to get us all down, and that's what I inferred. Again, from the tone. Sorry if I was incorrect.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/18 11:24:14
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So there we have a load of plugs designed for x64 environments that cause crashes when addressing RAM above 4GB?
Hmmm
isn't that the whole point of the x64 environment?
How old are these plugs?
Surely that kind of 'bug' would've been one of the first things to be addressed with these plugs if they were designed for x64?
Hmmm makes me wonder what criteria are employed when defining plugs for x64 systems?
Seems completely ludicrous that such old plugs have such an obvious flaw so late in life.....
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/18 11:48:38
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I wonder what "under certain conditions" means. That could mean anything from just turning them on to rare and unlikely conditions that most users will never encounter or anything in between...
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/18 12:03:12
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I had 8Gb of RAM at one time and had nothing but trouble using some of those plugs. I tested it and it checked out ok, so I took out 4Gb (which left me with 4Gb) just to troubleshoot and the problems went away. Everybody said, that proved it was my system.
The next time someone says, "Works great here, must be your system." I'm going to point them to this thread.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/18 12:09:07
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John
Edit to add a few more thoughts.
What has disturbed me about CW over the years is not the quality of Sonar but rather I feel that with some projects CW takes on they seem to at some point get bored with it and just let is lay.
They have a habit of letting things just gather dust in some dark corner. Point in fact. The FX 3 Sound Stage one of the best and unique plugins anyone has ever put out. It was not free when it came out. Worth every penny too. But no further development was ever given to it. It could have been a super plugin with a new GUI and some thought about usability and then it could have been a great tool for surround sound. It was never given the care it deserved.
We see, I believe, the same attitude with Sonar in general. Old code seems never to get looked at. Things such as the Staff view have had complaints for as long as I have been with this forum. Yet it has not been touched.
There is a lot within Sonar that needs updating both in look and in function but CW seems unaware of this. For example take a look at the date on the Mackie Control DLL in your X1 directory. On mine it is dated 2005 for an offering in late 2010. That is five years of no change or added functions. The Mackie Control is capable of far more then the things CW has implemented with it but they do not see fit to address it with each new version of Sonar. Now with X1 some of the few things that it could do in the past are no longer supported by X1.
This general method of not addressing all aspects of a program and its support files is a problem with CW that needs to change to a system where with each new upgrade we get a truly well thought out and up to date upgrade across all aspects of Sonar.
Picking out one major thing and neglecting all the other things has been a problem for some time with CW. Adding a great new feature without making sure that the old feature are either working as they should or have been improved is the way CW works.
This is one big reason I have been bullish about X1. I see as a new start for CW. I see it as a way for them to get deeper in the underlying code and make changes that can be done with less time. But just as this new version is touted to have those attributes seems to have missed the core programmers within CW. It seems that it will more then not contain costs but do little in getting at the need to redress the issues so many have talked about in every new year a new Sonar has come out. This has to change and more attention to detail needs to be the hallmark in the lab of CW.
I agree 100%. Well said. I would simply add that this starts at the top with the correct leadership/management.
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/18 12:37:44
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Yeah, this seems a bit odd to me as well. Most have the listed plugs have been around for a while and if this is a 64-bit issue, wouldn't we be seeing this in pre-X1 installs then?
You would think that the people complaining today about X1 would be complaining about it in 8.x (or 7.x) then. No?
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Re:More Optimistic About X1b After This Post From Noel
2011/03/18 15:43:22
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John,
Here's what I read in Noel's post. That a plugin as simple and often used as the ProChannel might cause crashing when trying to access more than 4 gigs of memory. I'm thinking that could effect many users experiencing crashing.
I agree we should probably still keep expectations low but to my jaded eye this bit of info showed me 2 things. One, that the Bakers are trying to keep good on their (or at least Brandon's) word regarding circling back and fixing bugs old and new, and that X1b may include a lot more fixes than the previously published list. I have had almost no problems with X1a so my hope is for other users and a generally stable X1 for everyone.
Larry: I notice your Signature says you have 4MB of Ram (I'm sure you mean 4GB)
If there is some truth to this post from Noel, you simply never went beyond that barrier, which would explain why you are not have so many issues. The same would apply to me, still on a 32 bit system with a 4 gig limit.
Like you I'll stay cautiously optimistic and see what unfolds. In general though, I consider this to be good news. Thanks for posting as I seemed to have missed the original!
I have had 12GB of Ram for quite a while now and I do not have issues with X1a-And yes I have used PC. Alsdo lp64 which as I stated a month ago-froze up 853 everytime I tried an adjustment during playback. But in X1a-no freezes at all with Lp64 (the EQ I mean)Of course,being on the positive side of X1a sets me up for attacks and rants. But I can take it-I am a grown up :-)
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