Mouse and video glitches

I've never seen anything like that in any version of SONAR, but there was someone that had (what I believe is) the exact same issue that you're describing, and only since upgrading to X3.  Hopefully they'll see your post and chime in.   I do wonder if there's something in common between your systems...
 

Interesting, definitely some similar behavior, but I'm not getting any CPU overload or sound issues.  It only seems to effect the faders and knobs in the GUI.  Also I notice the same problem when using the trackpad on my laptop so It may be with more than Logitech, but I'll check with those users in the other thread.

Have you done any OS tweaking?
 
I have had lots of cpu spike related issues in x2a causing anomalies on recordings ...and tried to rule out all possible candidates before upgrading to x3b by using :
 
"BLACK VIPERS"
 
suggested setup of OS for music systems under Win 7 64bit.
 
Could be your System Guy might have overlooked a tweak to turn off X Y Z background apps and services...?
 
Also I had tracked down the wd EXTERNAL USB 3.0 MY BOOK DRIVES TO BE CAUSING HICKUPS WITH THE OS...SO I UNPLUGGED THEM.
 
No more issues so far...
 
Avid Protools tech state "KINGSTON MICE" to be problematic...
 
Hope you solve the issues....
 
Sir Les
 
 
 

Sorry for the bad intel out of my head denverdrummer.....Kensington mouse/mice it is....
 I also like Logitech Products...G500 mouse..is awesome
 
Not sure about your touch and track stuff.(Laptop?)..But as with my understanding of PC setups, everything needs a IRQ in windows world...So, the more you add devices to the system that demand poling for cpu and memory and such, them more Microsoft windows will share those valuable IRQs and resource time...and in that you gain problematic functioning of them in union!
My solutions for this is to try to reduce redundant devices from loading up drivers or installing, and claiming a IRQ if they are all used up.....and they are!...So the less devices installed on a system, the more performance and stability you gain.
 
If you use a mouse, no need to have the track pad load up or be in use...So to turn that off would save a sharing of IRQs.
 
For me it is all about getting those IRQs down in number....and things work better.
 
 
Hope this leads you to more bliss.
 
Sir Les
 

Thanks bvideo, I think I pinpointed the problem.  I don't have a gaming mouse, but I have a Logitech M510 which is a laser mouse which has a higher dpi and more interrupts just like you say.  I went and switched it out for an old Microsoft mouse I had lying around and no problems with the fader.  I also thought initially that there was a problem with my trackpad, but it seems to work fine.
 
Now I know this is something introduced in X3, because I had the M510 for a couple of years and used it on X1 and X2 with no problems, but hopefully it will give the developers some clues on what to look for.
 

Thanks Bvideo...
 
I never thought of that view....Perhaps moving backwards with the mouse to a more primitive state might help my end aswell.??..But I bought a high enough ended CPU/MB/Memory/video, base to cope with them requests, ....So should more interrupt report rates be a issue?, when The machine is streamlined and powerful enough to cope...hmmm?
I will try a old regular Logitech scroll mouse...and put the weights in it some how to make it heavier....
 
But here we can all say, It does matter what perifs are in use....in order to gain a stable , reliable, and functioning properly DAW system.
And by putting all our heads together...We solve problems.
 
Seems there is also some glitch with video mouse code in X3....I think that might also be part of the pie.
 
So let us hope X3c helps others.
 
Be well.
 
Sir Les

denverdrummer
Now I know this is something introduced in X3, because I had the M510 for a couple of years and used it on X1 and X2 with no problems, but hopefully it will give the developers some clues on what to look for.
 

 
Please take the time to file a Problem Report so they'll know to look into it:
 
http://www.cakewalk.com/support/contact/problemreport.aspx
 
 
 

Hi all, in the previous thread, there was a mention of clicks, pops, cpu spikes etc... (similar to issues referred to here)

ok this is what i have found... 
 
i believe this has nothing to do with the issues of gaming mices. In the offending Project i opened, every time the mouse moves over the clips area and tracks area these clicks and pops occur. HOWEVER, this occurs ONLY when ProChannel is expanded. if ProChannel is closed and yet remains active (or ProChannel is disabled expanded or not does not matter), moving the mouse over any area of Sonar and or out of Sonar playback will be as smooth as can be.  
 
again the clicks and pops issue occur on different projects and it doesnt seem to be related to anything specific. This offending project has only 1 instance of Kontakt, 3 instruments loaded and 2 bus outs. On other bigger projects, with up to 7 bus outs, multiple Kontakts instances + others, i have not experienced similar issues.  All my previous projects were created with X1d.

hope this help guys...

cheers!!!

I have problems with the mouse... but not the glitches you are talking about.

I had a terrible mouse problem with X2 at the beginning.  My wireless (usb) mouse worked fine everywhere except in Sonar.  In Sonar it would start behaving more and more erratically until it no longer worked at all, in or out of Sonar.  I finally moved the USB thing from the tower on the floor to my monitor and the problem went away.
 
I've wondered since what Sonar can possibly be doing TO the mouse.  Isn't it just supposed to read it ?  I suspect something related to touch, but have no idea what.
 

Based on other threads, do you have the ability to try a "plain" LED mouse?
 

Possilbly... though if you had tried a "regular" mouse and are seeing the same thing it would seem to be a little coincidental!

I wonder if there's a way to "capture" what's happening at a system level even though there's no crash or hang...
 

I have two widescreen 22" LCD monitors - they are dissimilar in resolution. The primary (track view) is 1920 x 1080 at a refresh rate of 59 Hz. The secondary (console view, browser and inspector) is 1680 x 1050 at a refresh rate of 60 Hz. I have an older system. I see none of the jumpiness that you do in any view. Are you using onboard video?

I'm having exact same problem after I started using a 32 inch monitor with 1920x1080 resolution. I never noticed this before on my laptop with 1376x768 resolution. Even the plugins (FM8, Kontakt, etc.) behaves normally in a project in X3C. It's the faders and knobs of Sonar that shows this weird problem. All the drivers are up-to-date. Is there any fix or going to be fixed in X3D?