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2014/01/11 16:44:54 (permalink)

Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro.

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It seems no matter what I do if I move the folder:
C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\Programs
to some other folder path and then change in the registry:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software\dp\Contents folder
... to this new folder path, it won't work.
 
After I've done this I start Dimension Pro, go to the program browser, hit F5. Nothing. Also renaming programs.lst inside the folder won't work either.

Please note I've moved the multisamples without any issue.
 
Any ideas at all? 
Thanks.
post edited by CakeAlexS - 2014/01/13 17:54:35

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/12 09:00:47 (permalink)
    Can't help you Dr Strangelove Alex 
    I plan on moving all my DP stuff to a new hard drive on my 2nd system soon, so I'll be keeping an eye on this thread
     

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/12 09:30:26 (permalink)
    I "think" we may be "stuck" with the ProgramData pathway.
    One of my pet peeves is the default to the C drive for everything.
    This is "Pro" gear, right?
    DimPro "lets" you move/install the samples to a separate drive, maybe someone has a workaround for
    the "Programs" location.
    Rapture, for instance, does not let you select the location for its samples.
    Not a "biggie" until you start installing the Digital Sound Factory stuff.
    I was scolded once for suggesting Rapture "forces" the install to the C drive;
    the registry hack was then pointed out, but users shouldn't have to "hack" the install to
    set it up "right".
    I installed Rapture to the Sample drive, but it still uses the ProgramData "Programs" folder.
    I can't remember if I had to move the "Programs" folder or not; maybe I did.
    Like many I prefer to keep the C drive "lean & mean"; and "imaged" frequently!
     
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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/12 10:05:38 (permalink)
    Only way I've found is to create junctions/soft links (you can use a command line command or there are a few utilities you can find to manage it more seamlessly).
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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/12 19:01:18 (permalink)
    Looks like Dimension Pro and Rapture suffer from similar issues.

    What a PITA that I can't put program folders where I want them..
     
    Thanks.
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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/13 02:26:15 (permalink)
    Hey Alex... Try using symbolic links for this. They work well and no regedit required.

     
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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/13 04:23:03 (permalink)
    For DimPro I have both multisamples and programs on a separate drive. For Rapture, it's just the multisamples; the programs are still on the C-drive.
     
    I can't remember the registry hacks, but I'll post the details (or the link) when I dig out the info.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/13 04:38:39 (permalink)
    I reinstalled Dim Pro after moving samples to disk D. Works perfectly.
    There's a prompt during installation where about "multisamples" should be placed.
     
    The upgrades also needed separate reinstalltions. It's not enough to move upgrade's library to the multisample folder. Since they have an installation program along with library, I guess there are changes in registry involved.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/13 08:53:04 (permalink)
    Thanks I just need to move the program folder. If you can search the registry with the path to your program folder that may find it. Much appreciated!

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/13 10:17:56 (permalink)
    Make sure the registry key is the path to the sample folder's parent directory, not the sample folder itself. Dim Pro assumes that name of the samples folder is "Multisamples".


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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/13 10:25:26 (permalink)
    Thanks Dave
     
    However registry keys set right now are:
    Multisamples Folder D:\Cakewalk Content\Dimension Pro\
    Contents Folder D:\Cakewalk Content\Dimension Pro\
     
    No dice.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/13 14:09:44 (permalink)
    Sorry, I was stuck in the moving multisamples folder again.
    In my computer it looks like this:
     
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software\dp\Contents folder
    (that's "Contents" with an "s")
     
     
    Value:
    C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro
     
    Could the missing "s" be the issue here?
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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/13 15:01:18 (permalink)
    Yup but my issue is to do with the Programs folder (multisamples folder works fine), thanks anyway.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/13 15:26:59 (permalink)
    Sorry Alex! I was still thinking about the multisamples issue. Edited post # 11.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/13 17:55:27 (permalink)
    Ah thanks, actually it was Contents Folder I corrected my typo on post #1. At least that made my issue clearer! Thanks...

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 01:59:23 (permalink)
    So has anybody managed to move the PROGRAMS folder away from the default other than use symbolic links? From what I'm seeing its just MULTISAMPLES people have been talking about (I've done that).

    Otherwise symbolic links is the way to go I guess (that's generally a last resort).

    Thanks..

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 02:06:50 (permalink)
    Can you do a search in the registry for the default Program location then edit it?? That's if it's even a registry entry and not hardcoded in some way.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 02:54:15 (permalink)
    Yup I did that no dice other than what is stated in #1... Thanks.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 04:00:34 (permalink)
    I'm using version 1.2 of DimPro, so maybe this doesn't apply to your setup, but anyway this is the registry key that I amended:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Cakewalk Music Software\Dimension Pro
    Contents Folder
    Multisamples Folder

    Remember that filepath is level above the folder in both cases.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 04:34:36 (permalink)
    Hmm I do have this key as well however adding the values as per post #1does nothing sadly:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Cakewalk Music Software\dp
     
    I also tried renaming "dp" to "Dimension Pro" - didn't work, named it back.
    BTW I'm on 64 bit Dimension Pro version 1.5 (File version 1.5.0.11)

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 06:39:07 (permalink)
    Alex, isn't the key you have there for the 32 bit version of Dim Pro as you've in the Wow 6432 node which is for 32 bit programs on 64 bit OS.

    Maybe it's in the other part of the registry for 64 bit programs. Can't check as I'm on a tablet at the moment.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 07:09:52 (permalink)
    That's what I thought originally , but no the key in #1 definitely works in 64 dimension Pro.
    In fact it seems to utilize both keys,
     
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software\dp\
    It gets the settings from this as in #1, it takes heed of the multisamples setting for instance.
     
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Cakewalk Music Software\dp
    If you change this it will prompt for serial numbers etc, so this isn't redundant, settings are non effective here, it ignores the multisamples setting.
     
    It's all a bit weird how they've done this esp when other people have "Dimension Pro" rather than "dp".... Nightmare...
     
    I'm beginning to think the only people who can make sense of this are Cakewalk.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 16:13:10 (permalink)
    I've contacted technical support via webform (first time I've ever done this!)..  Cheers...

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 19:45:54 (permalink)
    I used Sysinternals ProcMon to trace the registry queries for Dimension Pro and found an interesting tidbit.
    Just before loading the MultiSamples it asks for the following:
     
    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Cakewalk Music Software\dp\Use Single Folder
     
    but gets a Name Not Found error in my case.
     
    Perhaps if you set this value it may use a single folder for both.
     

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 19:52:44 (permalink)
    Nice detective work, problem is without any documentation anywhere you are stabling in the dark about its use or what parameters to give it. I bet you it's attempting to read that key in error, the code that's being executed seems a total mess in this area at first glance... registry settings all over the place. Of course Rapture will probably be exactly the same.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 20:30:48 (permalink)
    I put the program files on the C drive, SSD, and support files/banks on the D, i thought.  That's where a lot of overhead exists.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 20:44:04 (permalink)
    What I'm doing is purely organisational, anyway still nowhere nearer sadly, lots of interesting things cropping up here though.

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/14 21:29:01 (permalink)
    A while back I posted material about moving stuff like this:
     
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2673527

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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/15 04:10:25 (permalink)
    @CakeAlex; I have successfully done this before, a while back on X1 I believe.
    You are on the right track...
    look in users/appdata/cakewalk/DimPro/ or similar.
    If you've been on sonar as long as your post count inplies, you may  find a solution there.
     
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    Re: Move Programs folder for Dimension Pro. 2014/01/21 20:01:24 (permalink)
    One quick question....
     
    If you move the multi samples folder do older projects still find the sfz files? or is it similar to Kontakt that they still look for the files in the original location? 
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