Jose7822
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/21 23:47:52
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Im sorry, but what does that have to do with my question? I know how to save aud.ini files within Sonar. I just want to know if adding a value of "2" to a dual core with HT enabled has any added benefits seeing as it effectively runs as a 4 core processor, or if it is just for physical 4 core machines. Thanx.
Talking about getting it right :-P My bad man, I meant to quote Rotaholic (his post is just above yours), not you. Sorry about that!
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/21 23:48:26
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I was pretty specific in my post: I said i/o buffers which is exactly what they're called on the menu. Jose is right. Has to be at least one. I tried on 1 and it just dropped out immediately.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/21 23:50:03
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John
Bump
You know if this was documented somewhere other than a post (like in the manual or in an easy to find knowledge base article on cakewalk.com support) you would not have to keep bumping it. Sooner or later you will get tired, this important fact will sink under the tide of new posts and be lost in the murk or the forum search. I am not criticizing your post, John, it is golden. I am saying Cakewalk depends far too much on the forum to provide stuff they should host on their support page.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/21 23:52:10
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John
Im sorry, but what does that have to do with my question? I know how to save aud.ini files within Sonar. I just want to know if adding a value of "2" to a dual core with HT enabled has any added benefits seeing as it effectively runs as a 4 core processor, or if it is just for physical 4 core machines. Thanx.
I thought I answered your question. Its hard for me to say because I never had a dual core. Thats why I gave the answer I did. I guess it was unhelpful. See Post 15.
You did, sorta, but it sounds as if you are unsure as well. I was just confused by Jose7822's reply to me, thats all.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/21 23:55:52
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John
Im sorry, but what does that have to do with my question? I know how to save aud.ini files within Sonar. I just want to know if adding a value of "2" to a dual core with HT enabled has any added benefits seeing as it effectively runs as a 4 core processor, or if it is just for physical 4 core machines. Thanx.
I thought I answered your question. Its hard for me to say because I never had a dual core. Thats why I gave the answer I did. I guess it was unhelpful. See Post 15.
You did, sorta, but it sounds as if you are unsure as well. I was just confused by Jose7822's reply to me, thats all.
Yeah, my bad dude :-P
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/21 23:56:38
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Talking about getting it right :-P My bad man, I meant to quote Rotaholic (his post is just above yours), not you. Sorry about that!
I thought so, no problem.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 00:35:29
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You did, sorta, but it sounds as if you are unsure as well. I was just confused by Jose7822's reply to me, thats all. Yes I am unsure but I was thinking you could test it out on your system. It wont hurt to try. You can always try a different variable. Your question is a good one but I don't have the ability to test it out. You do.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 00:43:32
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You know if this was documented somewhere other than a post (like in the manual or in an easy to find knowledge base article on cakewalk.com support) you would not have to keep bumping it. Sooner or later you will get tired, this important fact will sink under the tide of new posts and be lost in the murk or the forum search. I am not criticizing your post, John, it is golden. I am saying Cakewalk depends far too much on the forum to provide stuff they should host on their support page. Excellent point. I bumped it for other reasons. This started in another thread. I wanted to stop me from hijacking that thread and move those interested here. I bumped so others could see it. But you are absolutely right about a place where this kind of info is easily obtained should be provided. The thread by Noel I refer to used to be a sticky. Now its gone and its hard to find. There was a lot of good stuff in that post too. There is a collective memory in the form of this forum and we do rely on it a great deal.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 02:01:39
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Your question is a good one but I don't have the ability to test it out. You do. Your right, and I will test when I get a chance to. In the meantime I just wanted to throw that question out there especially since I see some of the new i7 processors are utilizing the HT technology again.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 07:34:06
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I'd love to hear some feedback from i7 guys that use UAD I'm using an i7 (965) with UAD2 (quad) and RME 9652 (see signature). Most projects end up with 25-35 plugins (I use all UAD). Typically can run at 64 samples without issue for tracking and mixing, but normally I drop to 32 for tracking (no plugs) and goto 256 or 512 for mixing. The "2" thread setting works well, and provided a little better cpu distribution across the i7 cores. -Dan
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 09:09:54
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 17:20:05
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Hi Guys,
Could you if possible, walk me thru this tweek.
I too noticed what others are experiencing, so if at all possible do a walk thru the operation.
thank you very muche.
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Jose7822
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 17:33:08
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Read Post #11. Between that post and the OP, you have all the info needed to perform this tweak :-)
HTH
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 17:40:12
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Mine was set on 2 after installation on a Quad core machine. I remeber it being 1 when I had a dual core machine. Perhaps Sonar chooses the best setting when installing?
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 17:43:07
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Jose,
thanks for the prompt answer, I'll try that wright now.
awal
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 18:05:33
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Crg
Mine was set on 2 after installation on a Quad core machine. I remeber it being 1 when I had a dual core machine. Perhaps Sonar chooses the best setting when installing?
I don't think so as mine was originally set at the default setting (1). I had to manually change it to "2". This is also on a Quad machine (see signature).
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 18:19:51
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I had no such string in my audio.ini file at all. I had to place it in there with the variable 2.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 18:25:25
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John
I had no such string in my audio.ini file at all. I had to place it in there with the variable 2.
The string was already there in my case. Just not set to "2".
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 21:23:54
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Well, I really appreciate this. The main reason I got a multi-core CPU was for Sonar. Sadly, when I try to edit the argument from within Sonar, I can't save it--it reverts back to 1. I can save it when I access the ini file from Explorer, but there is no affect on the core usage. My first core is going into 75+% and into the red while the others barely are being used.
If anyone has a workaround to this, I would really like to hear it.
Thanks again.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 21:27:45
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Did you press the 'Reload Config Settings' button after making the change within Sonar?
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 21:35:11
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Be sure you are editing the right audio.ini file. This is a real PITA to make sure you have the right one. Why you may ask. Its because for CW to stay compliant with the changing Windows standards CW has to put this file in different places. XP has it in one place Vista has it in another place. This is also true of all the ini files Sonar uses. You think you're editing a current file only to find that you are editing a clone that has no effect what so ever.
I liked it much better when all these files were in the Sonar directory.
Jose has the best solution but it may not work in some cases. It all depends on the location of said file.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 23:36:59
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John
I had no such string in my audio.ini file at all. I had to place it in there with the variable 2.
John, This is most likely because your AUD.ini was imported from an earlier version. I have seen cases where the new string (or switch) do not get added into the AUD.ini when a new version is installed because of the migration of the old AUD.ini. If you were to rename your current AUD.ini to .old and restart Sonar a new AUD.ini would be created with the string added in. All the default settings would be back but at least you would know you have clean AUD.ini file to build from. I like to do this when installing a new version just to be safe. It's a bit of hassle redoing all my settings and friendly driver names again but in reality that only takes a few minutes. Also, just in case this was not answered earlier in this thread (I skimmed through it), you can only change the thread scheduling model when Sonar is closed using a text editor like notepad. When you restart Sonar the new setting with be active. I have a quad core and I use setting 2. If you try and change the scheduling model while Sonar is running the setting will not be saved nor be active. This is not the case for 99% of the other strings.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 23:44:00
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This is most likely because your AUD.ini was imported from an earlier version. I have seen cases where the new string (or switch) do not get added into the AUD.ini when a new version is installed because of the migration of the old AUD.ini. If you were to rename your current AUD.ini to .old and restart Sonar a new AUD.ini would be created with the string added in. All the default settings would be back but at least you would know you have clean AUD.ini file to build from. I like to do this when installing a new version just to be safe. It's a bit of hassle redoing all my settings and friendly driver names again but in reality that only takes a few minutes. I fully agree. Also, just in case this was not answered earlier in this thread (I skimmed through it), you can only change the thread scheduling model when Sonar is closed using a text editor like notepad. When you restart Sonar the new setting with be active. I have a quad core and I use setting 2. If you try and change the scheduling model while Sonar is running the setting will not be saved nor be active. This is not the case for 99% of the other strings.
This would seem to be contrary to what Jose is saying. I don't know which is true here.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 23:49:39
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Hey Eric,
I have to say that I made the variable change to the AUD.INI file from within Sonar no problem. I did, however, restart Sonar to make sure the changes were permanent. So maybe what people need to do, besides pressing the 'Reload Config Settings' button after making the change within Sonar, is to restart it and re-check to make sure the setting was applied.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 23:50:50
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Just to be sure I opened 8.5.1 when to Audio Options/Advanced and clicked on the Edit Config File button. I changed the thread scheduling model from 2 to 1 and closed the file. I was prompted to save the changes and I said yes. I then click on Reload Config Settings. I then went to the directory where the AUD.ini was stored and opened it with notepad. The swicth was still set to 2.
So the answer is you need to make this particular change to Sonar when the progam is not running. Otherwise it is not saved.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 23:53:58
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Oh wait... After I closed Sonar and restarted the setting was indeed changed in teh AUD.ini file. So from what I am seeing you can change the setting from within Sonar but you need to close and restart Sonar for the change to be updated into the AUD.ini. So if you don't close and resrat Sonar is the change active? I don't know and just to be sure I will continue to make any changes to thread scheduling model while Sonar is closed.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/22 23:59:38
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Now here is that darn issue as to where the file is. I have no definitive answer to which procedure is correct here because I did it both ways before this came up. I do know I have been fooled before by CW's placement scheme of these files. I think I'm editing the proper file and it turns out to have not been the right one. This may be why I have an empty Initialization file dialog. One of these days I am going to do a clean install of Sonar.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/23 00:11:13
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What is strange about where the AUD.ini file is? It's clear to me that it's in the: C:\Docments and Settings\User Name\APplication Data\Cakewalk\Sonar 8.5 Producer If I go to C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Sonar 8.5 Producer there is a shortcut there that looks like a folder but takes me to the documents and settings location where the AUD.ini is stored in the folder called Sonar 8.5 Producer. It is a little weird at first but when you realize where you are being take from that shortcut it's alright.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/23 00:14:38
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Oh by the way, I was talking about XP. Forgive me if you are using Vista which I clearly don't know anything about.
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Re:For those wanted the core schedule for quads.
2009/09/23 00:15:20
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John, The correct file is in the following path (in Vista): C:\Users\["Insert User Name"]\AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk\ SONAR 8.5 Producer
Each version of Sonar has their own AUD.INI file inside their respective Sonar folder. But as long as you change the file for the correct version, you're good. This is why it's better to make these changes from within Sonar instead of manually finding the AUD.INI file (which requires enabling hidden files/folders). If you do it inside of Sonar you save yourself the hassle of going through obscure/confusing paths. HTH
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