I have been not only a friend to Cakewalk (and an admirer of your helpful posts) since Pro8, I fully support the addition of an audio metronome in S4. My objection is towards people who complain about this feature's non-existence in S3. If that feature is that crucial to you're creative flow then you should consider either work-arounds or third party plugs. I don't see any reason to complain about non-advertised features although I do understand asking for new features in the next version/update.

I think this is where the disconnect is. There is a perception that people who are lobbying for a real workaround are -unaware- of the workarounds. Not true in most cases.

It's almost like this: you're trying to get from Philadelphia to LA, you're currently riding a bike, and you are begging for a plane...and everyone keeps saying "try a bike"...well hey I'm already on a bike I want a plane. No try a bike stop whining... I said I want a plane..."I don't need a plane, you shouldn't either be patient"...but I'm sweating, I'm 1/3rd the way there my feet hurt, I have gnats in my teeth...there's a storm ahead --- Stop whining, try a bike, or even a skateboard...etc.. There might be a plane next year when you're ready to make the trip back. I don't intend to travel so really I don't think a plane is necessary for anyone actually, they should just stick with the bikes.

regarding the "next update"...nothing is really guaranteed, there are many factors that militate against features being included in a particular update, aggressive workaround rebuttals just make it harder.


Regarding this thread in particular, I think Mr. HammerHead's post set the tone.

I think I've been pretty consistent over the years, in general we shouldn't get in the way of people's feature requests....I had that attitude vs VST, and as is obvious now I was wrong.

The only problem with your illustration is that riding a bike to LA would be good for your health,

so the gnats in the teeth....protein? ahhhh

ORIGINAL: HammerHead

i just love when the sonar metronome subject comes up for it's weekly beat a dead-horse discussion.

That much is obvious, since you seem to be the one that turned the thread into another discussion about the "sonar metronome subject." All I was doing was sharing a technique I use to generate click tracks. I wasn't comparing it to any other "workaround" or saying that "we don't need a metronome plugin" or that "you need a metronome." My apologies to the forum for opening a thread regarding a topic that obviously a touchy one around here. But, as a favor to me, can everyone stop using this thread to bicker about whether Sonar should have a metronome plug-in? I really don't want to read that crap - but, I would like to read this thread in case anyone has any comments on my click track technique. Bearing that in mind, do as you please ... it's a free forum.

[P.S. in case you didn't notice, I changed the title of the thread too]

ORIGINAL: Phil B

ORIGINAL: HammerHead

i just love when the sonar metronome subject comes up for it's weekly beat a dead-horse discussion.

That much is obvious, since you seem to be the one that turned the thread into another discussion about the "sonar metronome subject." All I was doing was sharing a technique I use to generate click tracks. I wasn't comparing it to any other "workaround" or saying that "we don't need a metronome plugin" or that "you need a metronome." My apologies to the forum for opening a thread regarding a topic that obviously a touchy one around here. But, as a favor to me, can everyone stop using this thread to bicker about whether Sonar should have a metronome plug-in? I really don't want to read that crap - but, I would like to read this thread in case anyone has any comments on my click track technique. Bearing that in mind, do as you please ... it's a free forum.

[P.S. in case you didn't notice, I changed the title of the thread too]

It's great to know that I have such great influence over people. I never thought so highly of myself.

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I thought there already was one in S3 or maybe I'm confused - I've never actually used it).

yea,, sonar has a metronome,,
In the sonar book ,,they tell ya how to set up the (metronome)

I use session drummer as a metronome and I find that it works perfectly. Just my 2 cents on the issue.
Mitch

mute clip feature ?
gapless engine (at least gapless when delay comp not involved) ?
better grouping functions ?
TRACK VIEW FOCUS BUTTON !!

hey I've been working with Cakewalk/SONAR for YEARS with out these...what's the biggie?

gapless engine was a biggie for me, until very recently when I started sequencing in hardware again...

grouping functions, would be nice when tracking/editing live drums...however I do that at another ProTools based studio

Track View focus button, been requested for years aint gonna happen.

(see what I mean...that's basically the point of your message....we were making music with Pro Audio 4.01...totallay IRRELEVANT when it comes to feature requests)

So yeah no more feature request allowed...we're all making music. SONAR3 is the holy grail no updates needed.