My dumb question of the day...PRV in multidock...

yorolpal


This is probably a "henry in the first grade" kind of question but here goes anyway.  If I instantiate the PRV into the multidock, it is locked (??) to the track that was selected when it got "docked".  The next time I want to look at a separate track's PRV I can't just hit "D" cause it brings up the PRV on the wrong track.  Is there a way to just bring up the PRV with one click on whatever track is active??  Or to have it go into the Multidock generically and only open on the selected track.  Am I even making any sense here?

I don't know the full answer not being at my DAW, but I know this...
 
If you keep the MD open down below (not full screened) and dbl click on a clip, it will bring it into the PRV/MD.
Does that help?
 
 

yorolpal


It does Billy, ol pal, it does!

Glad to be of help, Ol Pal :)
 
BTW, I think one of the cooler things is hitting SHIFT D with the MD open so that it full-screens it.
 
And then "D" to hide the MD.
 
That's a handy workflow thingie. 
 
(And for those who think I've only been negative lately - you're NOT reading all my posts lol).
 
 

olpal,

Seek out Humblenoise's  screen shots of how to make good use of screen sets and PRV.

I was asking for a best practice method and Larry suggested one that is awfully clever and useful.

I still wish I could just click on any clip and have the PRV open just like I left it... but not yet.

Larry's screen set method is the best I've seen.

best regards,
mike

Billy and Mike, thank you for the references here.

yorolpal


This is probably a "henry in the first grade" kind of question but here goes anyway.  If I instantiate the PRV into the multidock, it is locked (??) to the track that was selected when it got "docked".  The next time I want to look at a separate track's PRV I can't just hit "D" cause it brings up the PRV on the wrong track.  Is there a way to just bring up the PRV with one click on whatever track is active??  Or to have it go into the Multidock generically and only open on the selected track.  Am I even making any sense here?
 
There are so many things to like about X1...but lots of little things are starting to pile up like the snow in the Midwest...and my back hurts...and I'm tired of shoveling it (metaphorically speaking)

olpal,

I think X1 should work as intuitively as possible and whenever I changed tracks I ALSO thought that that active track would be active in the PRV as well. Just made sense to my brain. Double click ain't the worst remedy but it would be much slicker if the PRV would change along with active tracks.

Regardless of what track is showing, there's a track dialogue box at the top of the PRV that you can use to select any track.   PRV can be multidocked, each with it's own instrument, and you can save screen sets as well.
Happy New Year

Lynn


Regardless of what track is showing, there's a track dialogue box at the top of the PRV that you can use to select any track.   PRV can be multidocked, each with it's own instrument, and you can save screen sets as well.
Happy New Year

Is that in PRV or in MultiDock?

I've been using PRV outside of MultiDock because I like the whole screen. I appreciated Larry's screen set tip... but I prefer the whole screen.

Thanks,
mike

mike_mccue

Lynn


Regardless of what track is showing, there's a track dialogue box at the top of the PRV that you can use to select any track.   PRV can be multidocked, each with it's own instrument, and you can save screen sets as well.
Happy New Year

Is that in PRV or in MultiDock?

I've been using PRV outside of MultiDock because I like the whole screen. I appreciated Larry's screen set tip... but I prefer the whole screen.

Thanks,
mike

Mike,
 
And "SHIFT D" won't do it for ya?   That works out nicely for me personally.
 
 

The Track pane helps - a little. Still requires a double click which as Billy has stated may work for some and as I worked with the 2 different PRV tracks it wasn't so bad. Could have sworn the Groove 3 video guy showed multiple tracks in the PRV track pane and was able to click between them. Im gonna go look.

If you select multiple tracks - click Alt-3 - all selected tracks will show up in the PRV and they can be toggled on and off in the track pane - pretty sweet, but of course needs to pass the Billy A ba-midi work flow test.

ba_midi

mike_mccue

Lynn


Regardless of what track is showing, there's a track dialogue box at the top of the PRV that you can use to select any track.   PRV can be multidocked, each with it's own instrument, and you can save screen sets as well.
Happy New Year

Is that in PRV or in MultiDock?

I've been using PRV outside of MultiDock because I like the whole screen. I appreciated Larry's screen set tip... but I prefer the whole screen.

Thanks,
mike

Mike,
 
And "SHIFT D" won't do it for ya?   That works out nicely for me personally.
 
 

I don't think I understand the implication of what you are saying?

It seems like several different methods are being discussed

Billy, It's hard to get across emotions and kidding in a forum post - the smiley face was my best shot - cause I know you're not that serious.

Now seriously. Did you try the above? Does it fit your work flow? I'm not asking because I think yours is the best. I'm asking because every time you say it does or doesn't work for you I learn just a little bit more about the way someone else works.

That's the point isn't it? I already know how I work.

HumbleNoise


Billy, It's hard to get across emotions and kidding in a forum post - the smiley face was my best shot - cause I know you're not that serious.

Now seriously. Did you try the above? Does it fit your work flow? I'm not asking because I think yours is the best. I'm asking because every time you say it does or doesn't work for you I learn just a little bit more about the way someone else works.

That's the point isn't it? I already know how I work.

To be honest, I don't remember if I did try your methods or not.  I have only two real problems with PRV that concern me, so it's not that I need a different workflow (I'm actually fine with that part of the PRV).
 
My concerns are this:
 
1- when selecting a clip in the clips pane (dbl clicking it to bring it into the PRV), the PRV screen real estate splits up in an irrational way ... that is:  I use the controller pane (some don't) and it draws about 80% of the velocity pane with 20% of the notes.  That's not very intelligent, in my opinion.  I *always* have to then scroll to see the notes, which are primarily what I am going to work on.
 
(note: yes I know I've brought this up before, but to keep this in context it needs to be reiterated).
 
2- After double clicking to select the clip and they show in the PRV, ALL the notes are selected.  99% of the time I want to work on one or a few, but almost never ALL at the same time (though it happens rarely).
 
And lastly is of course the Snap To Grid issues that have been discussed intensely throughout the forum posts.
 
So those are my concerns and they do slow me down a bit, of course.
 
Other than the Snap To Grid, the above concerns are not showstoppers though. 
 
I hope that clarifies a bit as to my workflow ?
 
 

PeterMc


I think he means that if you dock the PRV, then hit shift-D, it's the same screen size as an undocked amd maximized PRV (except for the inspector, which you can hide).

I'll go try that.

I haven't seen the multi dock or inspector since day one... I felt they get in the way...  I just don't seem to like docking... I've been unhappy with it in Adobe for 2 years... I always have stuff snapping to the dock.. and everything is smaller... maybe Shift D is my best solution. I'll give it a try.

Thanks!

best regards,
mike

I do use the I to see the inspector when I need to.

I don't think so. It looks like the controller pane always returns to a fixed size, whether docked, maximized, undocked etc. Not ideal.
However, if you hide the controller pane, that is remembered.

Cheers, Peter.