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My first 2 minutes with X1B
http://img850.imageshack....meiwasrunningthis.jpg/ The heavy use situation was the following: - the "DAW 2.0" was able to start and give the oversophisticated project start window - the "DAW 2.0" was able to create a new project flawlessly - the "DAW 2.0" was able to load an .rx2 file then accept a placement in the mighty matrix view - the "DAW 2.0" was able to start and stop few times the clip, then selected first audio track - the "DAW 2.0" was able to CRASH after 1 minute of run... Ridiculous. Annoying. Even if it would work without issues, the maturity of this design and integration is like having a car which has a steering wheel outside on the left-rear door. Well, i guess it has been said thousand time. Just for the nowcomers to catch up quickly. CAKEWALK you've sold a known fully buggy, half ready product, this is not the BUSINESS MODEL to go! Congratulation and have a nice time to spend the money you harvested by this ugly manouver. For me this was the last time to run this...
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 14:29:19
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This is very hard to follow. Is there some problem you'd like to report and would like assistance with?
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 14:32:01
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 14:34:07
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OK well just so you know we offer free tech support to all SONAR customers and the forum is also here to help you. Sorry you've experienced trouble. Support might be able to help you with the particular crash you are seeing.
post edited by Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk] - 2011/03/21 14:35:22
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 14:39:30
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inspiral
No, thank you!
That's the spirit!
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 14:56:38
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This man can't be helped...
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 14:58:42
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We do need a registered forum. People don't spend hundreds of dollars, and just GIVE UP on that money, unless...
Secondarily, a lot of people expect things to run great on an underpowered system and/or loaded with random, non-musical programs that conflict, and not optimized for audio.
I've had very few problems because my DAW is a DAW ONLY, and properly built and maintained!
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 14:59:24
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well okay. THAT just happened.
I wonder if the OP is like this with all his purchases. I can see it being a problem with produce and automobiles.
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 15:04:31
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Did you apply the 1st patch X1a before running the second one?
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 15:16:25
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Venting about venting...  At least he vented...and did not go smash something...
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 15:17:19
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Hopefully inspiral comes back, to get things sorted out. <edit> irrelevant comment removed I hope inspiral gives it a shot.
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 15:19:33
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trimph1
Venting about venting...
At least he vented...and did not go smash something...
or Crush something. ;)
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 15:23:44
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 15:25:50
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SoundBank
Hopefully inspiral comes back, to get things sorted out.
I did see the screenshot had
Hungarian windows, and an
English - Hungarian translation dictionary.
Inspiral might be extrememy fluent in English <I don't know>.
I know if I had to try and fix an issue over the phone in Hungarian, I may temporarily lose it.
I hope inspiral gives it a shot.
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 16:57:55
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hockeyjx
We do need a registered forum. People don't spend hundreds of dollars, and just GIVE UP on that money, unless...
Secondarily, a lot of people expect things to run great on an underpowered system and/or loaded with random, non-musical programs that conflict, and not optimized for audio.
I've had very few problems because my DAW is a DAW ONLY, and properly built and maintained!
First. Im not stupid to spend hundreds of dollars for a product i never used. So that's why i bought Essential. Well, a hundred dollar also weights a lot when i consider what to spend it for. But: - in the first few days using X1, i faced with at least 10 issues listed in the 'Issues resolved' section of X1b patch. What can i say, my workflow mapped out many big issues buried under the fancy interface of X1. I could live with that. But :) - i've learned everything in Live, then spent a few weeks with Reaper, too. Since these DAWs use quite different menu system, workflow, etc i can say i have no problem to invest a bit to get to know a new system. For me X1 was unmature from the first time. Matrix view features are so limited and all the components doesn't work well together. As i wrote, for me it doesn't seem to be well integrated. And - besides all the previously written stuff everybody knows how buggy this system is. I'm a SW verfication engineer at one of the biggest company of the world and we develop digital cardiovascular X-ray systems. You know, this is a safety critical system, here the SW is to save and lose lifes. ;) But even if Cakewalk has not that much knowledge of Quality Processes and not audited at all, all the discovered issues are very dirty one, everybody can see and experience this. I have many principles and the way CW do the business is discusting for me. - i like things which WORKS and don't have time to waste for those which don't. I know it is not that simple to make a sophisticated and solid application like a DAW (different OS versions, HWs, 3rd party plugins, etc), but it is not a mission impossible and other companies with less legacy or even a small developer group made the homework as it is expected, ie: the product WORKS. You know, for me these things are enough to say easily, thanks, but no. We are different, right? Second. I have a 3Ghz Core 2 powered dedicated machine, 4Gb RAM, etc... Other DAWs have no problem with this, even under heavy load. Just in between us, it is enough. ;)
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 16:59:52
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My first 2 minutes
Where has the control bar gone?
OK so got it back
Then Create V-Vocal clip
and
C R A S H
has anything actually been fixed?
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 17:02:34
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Ian,
Is the vvocal crash repeatable? New or old project?
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 17:13:59
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Ian,
Is the vvocal crash repeatable? New or old project?
It is repeatable. I previously reported it in X1A under CWBRN3942 It occurs when I have unfrozen instances of ReFX Nexus in the project (it may happen with other 32bit VSTis but as I have none installed I can't test)...if I freeze all instances of that plug then I can get V-Vocal to work but as this project (originally created in X1A) has 9 instances I'd prefer not to. I must confess I deliberately set out to see if that particular 'bug' had been fixed as I'd heard nothing since its status was altered to SUBMITTED TO DEVELOPMENT over a month ago.
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 17:16:43
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That's disappointing. Let me see what I can find out. Thanks for providing the Bug reference number.
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 17:17:13
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inspiral
hockeyjx
We do need a registered forum. People don't spend hundreds of dollars, and just GIVE UP on that money, unless...
Secondarily, a lot of people expect things to run great on an underpowered system and/or loaded with random, non-musical programs that conflict, and not optimized for audio.
I've had very few problems because my DAW is a DAW ONLY, and properly built and maintained!
First. Im not stupid to spend hundreds of dollars for a product i never used. So that's why i bought Essential. Well, a hundred dollar also weights a lot when i consider what to spend it for. But:
- in the first few days using X1, i faced with at least 10 issues listed in the 'Issues resolved' section of X1b patch. What can i say, my workflow mapped out many big issues buried under the fancy interface of X1. I could live with that. But :)
- i've learned everything in Live, then spent a few weeks with Reaper, too. Since these DAWs use quite different menu system, workflow, etc i can say i have no problem to invest a bit to get to know a new system. For me X1 was unmature from the first time. Matrix view features are so limited and all the components doesn't work well together. As i wrote, for me it doesn't seem to be well integrated. And
- besides all the previously written stuff everybody knows how buggy this system is. I'm a SW verfication engineer at one of the biggest company of the world and we develop digital cardiovascular X-ray systems. You know, this is a safety critical system, here the SW is to save and lose lifes. ;) But even if Cakewalk has not that much knowledge of Quality Processes and not audited at all, all the discovered issues are very dirty one, everybody can see and experience this. I have many principles and the way CW do the business is discusting for me.
- i like things which WORKS and don't have time to waste for those which don't. I know it is not that simple to make a sophisticated and solid application like a DAW (different OS versions, HWs, 3rd party plugins, etc), but it is not a mission impossible and other companies with less legacy or even a small developer group made the homework as it is expected, ie: the product WORKS.
You know, for me these things are enough to say easily, thanks, but no. We are different, right?
Second. I have a 3Ghz Core 2 powered dedicated machine, 4Gb RAM, etc... Other DAWs have no problem with this, even under heavy load. Just in between us, it is enough. ;)
At least you came back and did explain yourself a bit. I will give you that. What I think is really important for this forum and CW too is a report of just what happen and any added detail you can come up with. The reason is simple it can't get fixed if no one knows what the problem is. Because you are not that new here you will know that a lot of fixes come forth when they are fully hashed out here. Further Brandon was the first to reply to your post and offering to help find a solution. It may not interest you but it could help some else down the line. No you have no obligation to provide the information that may lead to a fix yet you are in a community that tries to help one another as best we can. I hope you can find a way to see this as something useful for us all. You are not very happy with what you have encountered so far but after taking a little break you may find that being open about this and letting us know what did cause the issue will go a long way in your feeling of satisfaction due to perhaps a resolution to the problem. In the end it can't hurt you to provide the data that may lead to a fix.
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 17:21:37
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Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
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That's disappointing. Let me see what I can find out. Thanks for providing the Bug reference number.
Thanks Brandon. Now to see if the other things that bugged me about X1A have been 'fixed'......now where's that out of time drum track gone?.......
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 17:34:18
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SoundBank
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2259623
Did you possibly start the new project with normal.cwt template.
See *SOLVED* thread above.
I replied to Twig in another thread (that one) pointing this out and suggesting he try safe mode on any projects that act weird. Some of the X1 bugs may have simply caused problems none of us knew about or experienced until X1B 'fixed' them ;)
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 17:36:52
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ba_midi
SoundBank
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2259623
Did you possibly start the new project with normal.cwt template.
See *SOLVED* thread above.
I replied to Twig in another thread (that one) pointing this out and suggesting he try safe mode on any projects that act weird.
Some of the X1 bugs may have simply caused problems none of us knew about or experienced until X1B 'fixed' them ;)
Just informing the OP * inspiral * ..that had a quick crash right off the bat. Your thread may help. normal.cwt issue.
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 19:49:20
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inspiral
hockeyjx
We do need a registered forum. People don't spend hundreds of dollars, and just GIVE UP on that money, unless...
Secondarily, a lot of people expect things to run great on an underpowered system and/or loaded with random, non-musical programs that conflict, and not optimized for audio.
I've had very few problems because my DAW is a DAW ONLY, and properly built and maintained!
First. Im not stupid to spend hundreds of dollars for a product i never used. So that's why i bought Essential. Well, a hundred dollar also weights a lot when i consider what to spend it for. But:
- in the first few days using X1, i faced with at least 10 issues listed in the 'Issues resolved' section of X1b patch. What can i say, my workflow mapped out many big issues buried under the fancy interface of X1. I could live with that. But :)
- i've learned everything in Live, then spent a few weeks with Reaper, too. Since these DAWs use quite different menu system, workflow, etc i can say i have no problem to invest a bit to get to know a new system. For me X1 was unmature from the first time. Matrix view features are so limited and all the components doesn't work well together. As i wrote, for me it doesn't seem to be well integrated. And
- besides all the previously written stuff everybody knows how buggy this system is. I'm a SW verfication engineer at one of the biggest company of the world and we develop digital cardiovascular X-ray systems. You know, this is a safety critical system, here the SW is to save and lose lifes. ;) But even if Cakewalk has not that much knowledge of Quality Processes and not audited at all, all the discovered issues are very dirty one, everybody can see and experience this. I have many principles and the way CW do the business is discusting for me.
- i like things which WORKS and don't have time to waste for those which don't. I know it is not that simple to make a sophisticated and solid application like a DAW (different OS versions, HWs, 3rd party plugins, etc), but it is not a mission impossible and other companies with less legacy or even a small developer group made the homework as it is expected, ie: the product WORKS.
You know, for me these things are enough to say easily, thanks, but no. We are different, right?
Second. I have a 3Ghz Core 2 powered dedicated machine, 4Gb RAM, etc... Other DAWs have no problem with this, even under heavy load. Just in between us, it is enough. ;)
I suggest you seeing the way you work to use Live for production in rewire to sonar 8.5.2 (for mixing and post prod)and you will love this combo....
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
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Re:My first 2 minutes with X1B
2011/03/21 20:24:45
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