[NOT FULLY SOLVED See POST #27] My first (EVER) consistent motor boating in X3

Update: Problem solved. See posts # 16 & 26
Update: Not entirely solved. See post #27
 
I have a project from X2a that was completed and still plays accurately today (in X2)
 
In X3a when I open any VST (track or bus) and NOT EVEN make any changes without the transport running
 
voila - motor boating
 
Happens every time. Close the project and reopen, still happens. Shut down SONAR and reopen, still happens. Gonna reboot the machine now and see. SONAR crashed after shutdown/power up when trying to simply open the project. MiniDump sent.
 
RME Fireface UFX interface in ASIO mode set to 1024 buffers
SONAR X64
WIN 7 X64
UAD 7.1 (without LA-2A family auth)
 
 
FWIW:
On the tracks I have (in the way of VSTs): 
Slate VCC (on every track)
32bit drumagog (kick and snare)
Sonitus Compressor (2 instances)
FabFilter Limiter (about 8 instances on spearate tracks)
Bass Rider
UAD LA2A
CLA Vocal (4 instances on separate tracks)
VX-64
Valhalla Room
 
On the buses I have:
Slate VCC (on every bus)
FabFilter Compressor
UAD 1176
ToonTrack EZMix (Bass Chorus)
UAD LIttle Labs VOG
T-Racks CSR Room
 

markyzno
Are you sure you're not lying about the amount of VSTs you have running? 

Well some have multiple instances that I may not have reported accurately.
 

chuckebaby
are there any plug ins in that project that are not in your x3 install ?
you may be missing or uninstalled them ?, plug in manager not pointed to ?
 
 

Nope.
 
I did not uninstall any plugs. No SONAR reported missing plugs when the project is opened.

All that comes out of the sound card when you press play is a sound that is like a motor boat engine brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

BTW, one other recent X2 WIP project opens in X3 and plays fine. However there are fewer plugs in that project.

I wonder if you go into Preferences>File>VST Settings and uncheck "Replace VST2 Plugins when opening projects" it might solve the problem.

This "fix" has been suggested a lot in the last couple of days, but it's worth repeating....
 
Did you rescan your plugins after the upgrade?

@Mod & JonD - Nope no change. SOANR crashes.

I'd contact CW tech support on the phone. You might get an immediate response.

Thanks for the update, Bapu.  I'm gonna flag my UAD plugs temporarily in existing X2 projects until we get any further information.

Noel,
 
I am not at the DAW for the next six hours but I will address your suggested tests before the night is out.
 
The project only opened twice today when I got the noise with no crash. After that I was unable to open project without excluding all UAD plugs (1176 newer version, LA-2A, Helios maybe one more). And then, I could not reproduce the noise.
 
Specs:
SONAR X64, WIN 7 64bit, UAD Ver 5 or 6 (I cannot recall which) on two UAD Quad cards.

redbarchetta
hate to ask a dumb question, but what is UAD

http://www.uaudio.com/

StarTekh
This is not what I wanted to here ....

Slow down, remember I'm at least one rev behind on the UAD plugs (maybe even 2). We'll know in about 5 hours if the problem is related to that scenario.

Bad News. 
 
Since I did not upgrade the UAD LA-2A to the LA-2A series when I open this project I am now informed (after updating to 7.1) that the LA-2A is not installed. So far so good. 
 
But..... when I try to delete it from the track SONAR crashes.
 
So now I'm begining to think the original problem was tied to the existance of the (original) LA-2A in the project. 
 
I submitted the mini dump and got assigned CWBRN-19986. 

Can't you delete it from your X2a installation, save it & open it up in X3?