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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/11 22:19:48 (permalink)
Just an idea - sounds like this is a pretty intelligent dog.  Does he/she "have enough to do?"  We had a Cocker Spaniel who was way too smart for his own good - as long as we could keep him interested in something, he'd stick around.  Otherwise, he'd go exploring. 

Too bad I didn't have that dog in college.  He had this knack for locating groups of attractive college women - who were putty in his paws.  Good thing we had his name on his collar... I got a call one night from the sand volleyball courts about a mile from the house - he'd wandered over and stopped the game and they wanted him to go home!




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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 01:46:47 (permalink)
Herb, call the Globetrotters. With The Buoy, Ltd. handling the contract, he could retire next year (The Buoy, that is).

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Re:Need DOG advice.... 2011/07/12 07:17:28 (permalink)
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His tether is 10' long.... shorter qualifies as a leash.
Shirley the answer is to anchor the tether 10' from the fence....  or am I being to obvious?
 
 
Wait up,  where do you have it tied to at the moment?  If the fence is 5' high and it's on a ground anchor at the base of the fence then the poor thig would be almost hanging on the far side of the fence if he climbed it...

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Re:Need DOG advice.... 2011/07/12 09:08:26 (permalink)
My most recent adjustments to the barricade succeeded in keeping him in the yard... At least, when I looked out this morning, the tether was not going over the top of the barricade.

the problem is, I can not keep that thing in place. It is screwed to the fence, so for ME to get out to the lawnmower shed.... I need a Phillips power screw driver...and that is not convenient for me.



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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 11:41:41 (permalink)
Use your imagination. You can surely attach something not-too-striking-looking obstacles on the fence.

My first thought was (I hope my english is sufficient to describe this):

A plain wire rope attached a few inches below the top level of the fence and not more than maybe 4-6 inches from the fence. This wire rope should run through metal loops or wheels freely and have a weight (about 1/2 of the dogs weight) in the other end. So when the dog climbs up to take support from this wire rope, it falls harmlessly down.

The loops the wire rope runs through must be such that they don't allow the dog to go under it (= between the fence and the wire rope).

I'm not sure if this suggestion fits the actual problem, but that's my 2 eurocents.

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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 11:47:24 (permalink)
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Use your imagination. You can surely attach something not-too-striking-looking obstacles on the fence.

My first thought was (I hope my english is sufficient to describe this):

A plain wire rope attached a few inches below the top level of the fence and not more than maybe 4-6 inches from the fence. This wire rope should run through metal loops or wheels freely and have a weight (about 1/2 of the dogs weight) in the other end. So when the dog climbs up to take support from this wire rope, it falls harmlessly down.

The loops the wire rope runs through must be such that they don't allow the dog to go under it (= between the fence and the wire rope).

I'm not sure if this suggestion fits the actual problem, but that's my 2 eurocents.


That would work, and is a good solution.  But I still fail to see why the 10' long tether can't simply be fastened 10' from the fence...

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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 16:43:25 (permalink)
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Use your imagination. You can surely attach something not-too-striking-looking obstacles on the fence.

My first thought was (I hope my english is sufficient to describe this):

A plain wire rope attached a few inches below the top level of the fence and not more than maybe 4-6 inches from the fence. This wire rope should run through metal loops or wheels freely and have a weight (about 1/2 of the dogs weight) in the other end. So when the dog climbs up to take support from this wire rope, it falls harmlessly down.

The loops the wire rope runs through must be such that they don't allow the dog to go under it (= between the fence and the wire rope).

I'm not sure if this suggestion fits the actual problem, but that's my 2 eurocents.


That would work, and is a good solution.  But I still fail to see why the 10' long tether can't simply be fastened 10' from the fence...


Wouldn't that make too much sense?

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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 18:18:47 (permalink)
To heck with the fence.  Just get rid of it so the dog can see that there's nothing on the other side worth going to!

 
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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 20:35:59 (permalink)
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To heck with the fence.  Just get rid of it so the dog can see that there's nothing on the other side worth going to!


I actually have enough spare fence sections to move the gate back another 5 feet or more...... that would put it out of reach as Karyn suggested.

The only problem with that is... do you know how much work it is to alter an existing fence? And it's North Carolina in July.

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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 21:00:54 (permalink)
So, would the world come to an end if you gave the dog away?  Perhaps to someone with a higher fence?

And you're going to Hilton Head?  That sounds incredible.  Have fun!
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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 21:15:32 (permalink)
 
Keep the pooch indoors?
 
Take it walkies when it needs exercise and to do its business?

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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 21:43:42 (permalink)
Janet.... I have suggested that... it ain't happening even though no one wants to deal with the dog. So I have taken it upon me, to play with him and train him. Oh yeah... feed, water, clean up after, take to the vet, walk, ...... got the picture.... and I pleaded not to get the dog...... but.....


Steve: No way. 

His name is Rascal ( I didn't pick the name)... I call him "snippit" cause he got his "nads" "snipped" way back..... ( poor thing)... or "stinky one"... he has that musty outdoor dog funk and no...... I don't want to smell that when I come home and set down to relax in the house.



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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 22:06:36 (permalink)
Here's what you do Herb ... you shorten the tether just enough to where when he gets over the fence, he hangs himself but can stand up on his hind legs so he doesn't suffocate. Let him there for 15 ~ 20 minutes and he'll never EVER forget what happened and he won't go over the fence again.

Dog's remember two things, reward and discomfort. That's why treat and shock color style training is so successful.

I still don't get why you can't just shorten his tether so he can't get to the fence period.

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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 22:14:14 (permalink)
Have him de-clawed so he can't climb and just slips off?

Neuter him? Dogs who run off like that have a tendency to stay home once they have their nuts cut. Might want to take him to the vet to have that done though. It gets messy if you've never done it before.

Hmmm, what else ... electric shock collar?

BB gun?

.22LR?

.38?

.45?

.50?

Hammer?

Knife?

Sword?

Rake?

Pick ax?

Pit Bull?

There's all kinds of solutions to this problem if you don't want to just shorten his leash.



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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 22:34:38 (permalink)
Herb, seriously?  Maybe this needs to go beyond suggesting.

Although, who would pull you on skis?  Yeah, I guess that's important.
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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 22:36:25 (permalink)
My dog has a large yard surrounded by a a 6 foot chain link fence with a single wire electric fence (designed for dogs not horses) strung at the top and ten inches above the ground along the inside perimeter except for the area floored with concrete pavers. My previous dogs were wolf hybrids and could easily get over a plain 6 foot fence, but they always started their escape tunnels close to where the fence met the ground. The electric fence only had to be energized for about two weeks, then I turned it off and never had a problem. The cost of the materials was impressive, but less than the cost of buying a purebred dog, and a lot less than veterinary bills. Aside from digging the post holes, the work was not difficult or demanding. So much for the exercise yard.

Keeping the dog inside is also an excellent idea, and a good way to make sure you raise a dog that people can live with. It has the same effect for the people as the electric fence has for the dog, in that it automatically reinforces learning of both species limits. Putting a dog in a yard to live is a recipe for problems.
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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 23:04:29 (permalink)
I used to have a German Shepard that we could watch climbing our chain link fence.  He was a real hoot.  That was many many years ago.  Sorry, GH, ol pal, but I'm one of those lifelong dog lovers that thinks no dog should be "tethered" to anything.  You might try it yourself for a weekend and see how you like it.  Sort of like Mike Myer's helmet wearing kid on the old Saturday Night Live.  I honestly don't know of a good solution for you and your companion.  Except the same training, love and respect you'd give your children.  On a constant basis.  I sincerely hope you get it worked out and that both you and your dog have a happy, fun filled life together.  Maybe go online and see what other dog folks like Caesar Milan, "The Dog Whisperer" are recommending for folks in your situation.  Scratch his (or her) ol chest for me, will ya?  And tell em "Doghouse" says hey.

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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 23:24:40 (permalink)
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Putting a dog in a yard to live is a recipe for problems.
Very true. Unless you have more than one dog. If they have company they can be much more tame depending on the breed.

I put up horse fence (it has smaller openings than woven wire) to keep my dogs in. We had three but one passed away in January. We have two rules ... if it gets over 90F or below 30F they come in the house. Otherwise they stay outside. Of course, they have a nice custom built (by me) 12' x 5' x 7'tall heated and cooled kennel with recessed lighting, pineboard walls, and indoor/outdoor carpeting, and a radio. No, I don't spoil my dogs.

One of them started digging along the fence line to get out and chase rabbits that were living in my wood pile so we put foot and a half tall chicken wire flat on the ground all along the fence line and that stopped her from digging.

Our place has become a safe haven for dogs. We have a few regulars and I've gotten to know the owners and call them to come pick them up whenever they try to call our place home. I even remember some of their names. We had a wicked storm a week or so ago. In the middle of the storm my gas grill got blown across the porch so I went out to put it back and I looked up and there were a bunch of glowing eyes staring at me in the dark. Scare the crap out of me. Turns out the storm scared my neighbors dogs (there's 3 and they live 5 miles away) and they got out of their kennel and came to my place. Why, I dunno! So I'm out there in torrential rain, lightning all around, trying to round them up in my garage. The one was scared of me so it took 10 minutes to get him in. I get them in and they all start shaking the rain off and then I smell it ... SKUNK! They got sprayed by a skunk and I got 2nd hand skunked and had to wash my clothes and shower at 1:30 in the morning. :) <--- Why am I smiling? HEHE

I don't know why, but they always show up here and won't leave until their owners come.

Anyhoo ... really Herb, shorten the leash. Next thing you know he could get out and get skunked! :)


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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/12 23:30:20 (permalink)
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Sorry, GH, ol pal, but I'm one of those lifelong dog lovers that thinks no dog should be "tethered" to anything.  You might try it yourself for a weekend and see how you like it.
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Re:PetWettinglyunFunny :( 2011/07/13 09:04:50 (permalink)
Skunks are rare around here. 
He lost his "nads" to the vet early in life.
If the 10' tether was shortened, he would not be able to do anything.
A guy I knew years ago had a pack (5 or 6) wolf hybrids. He had a large yard where he let them roam. the yard was surrounded by a 10' fence and a warning sign at the gate not to enter unaccompanied by the owner.  I think they were more work and worry then they were worth since he has gotten rid of them all.

Since I have to cut the grass today, I have to remove the barricade. So I will see if he is still trying to jump the fence and decide what to do next.....tomorrow morning.

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