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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/14 19:22:19 (permalink)
Thanks for listening and for your comments Daren!

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/14 19:52:31 (permalink)
This is some great meditation music for me! I enjoy relaxing and meditating at times and this provide a great ocean feeling breeze like atmosphere that puts my mind in a meditation mood. I enjoyed the music!!!
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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/14 20:31:42 (permalink)
Thanks so much for listening and for sharing your experience 1tmack!

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/15 04:48:09 (permalink)
Hi, Walt,
 
Very cinematic sounding piece of modern electronica with a nice variety of well textured synths, an eerie vibe, and a clean, full sounding mix!
 
Really good stuff, it sounds great!
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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/15 06:04:16 (permalink)
Walt,
 
Thanks for checking out my stuff and the compliments man, I do like pop!
 
I think extending and adding a few instruments/b section is a good idea to develop it further but more so to package it better (away from the pop realm)
 
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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/15 09:46:42 (permalink)
What a wonderful piece of music. Hugely evocative and mood-shifting, your ability to paint a deeply meaningful sound-scape is electrifying, drawing the listener into your vision of a world of oceanic beauty. Love it.
 

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/15 10:02:10 (permalink)
@Bob - Thanks for listening and for your comments.  I'm glad you like it!  Also... greetings from SE PA!
 
@Cian - Thanks again for your follow-up.  I've been working on updates to a different track that I hope to unveil here soon, which quite a different style, but I do plan to get back to Neptune's Oceans at some point in the not too distant future and add a few things into the pot to see what kind of (non-poppy) stew can be made of it. :)
 
@Malcolm - Thanks for taking the time to listen and for your glowing comments!  Ambient electronica isn't for everyone, but I'm heartened to know that some people (including you and I, apparently) do really connect with it.  I still love a good "verse - chorus - bridge" song, but as the years pass I find myself more and more often gravitating towards less structured, more ambient sorts of music that are less like "songs" and more like "soundscapes".  I hope to make more of this kind of music in the future.

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/15 13:50:33 (permalink)
I'm glad this thread got bumped because I skipped over it when it was first posted. And I'll admit why: you called it "electronica". I just don't like most electronica. The bulk of the genre consists of tedious drones, automated arpeggios, drum machines on autopilot, squashed and submerged in a reverb bath. The musical equivalent of boiled cabbage.
 
There needs to be a new word to describe electronic music that's NOT boiled cabbage. Whatever such a new category might be named, I think Neptune's Oceans qualifies for inclusion.
 
Yes, there are some noticeable artifacts in the beginning. I'm not sure what it is, perhaps a click being propagated by reverb. I'd zoom in on it and try to determine what it is, and perhaps automate it out.
 
A suggestion for adding some interest: keep the percussion but inject some unexpected percussive ear candy here and there. Something either very deep (e.g. orchestral bass drum) or bright (e.g. triangles, finger cymbals). Tablas or bongos might go well with the sitar theme. Whatever you stick in, make it brief and unexpected and panned out of center, in contrast with the steady rhythm that's already there.


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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/15 14:11:51 (permalink)
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The bulk of the genre consists of tedious drones, automated arpeggios, drum machines on autopilot, squashed and submerged in a reverb bath. The musical equivalent of boiled cabbage.
 




 
Bitflipper nailed it again!
 
 

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/15 16:03:16 (permalink)
@bitflipper - Thanks for listening Dave, against your initial instincts.  And thanks for your kind comments and suggestions about the music.  I agree.

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/15 18:11:25 (permalink)
This kind of stuff is pretty hard to do effectively I find as it can just sort of meander along endlessly.
This was nice from like 1:00- 1:40 where it had some meat.

 
Really don't like the sitar sound. Might be a personal thing. Just reminds me of the tonality I was always trying make sound good in the early roland synth 12 string guit patches.
 
I do think it would be great in a James Bond movie (with a real sitar player).

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/15 22:22:54 (permalink)
Thanks for taking the time to listen timidi, and for your kind comments.  It's true that ambient music is not for everyone.  In fact the point of it is to "meander" and allow the listener to daydream, rather than be focused in on the music.
 
As for the sitar, it actually started out in early incarnations of the song as a saxophone part, but I decided I wanted something more exotic sounding to be in keeping with the sort of "mysterious" and "exotic" vibe I was going for (i.e. exploring the liquid diamond oceans deep inside the planet Neptune).  It's admittedly a little edgy and definitely not supposed to sound like pop music.  All that being said, a few different people have mentioned the sitar (negatively), so now I'm wondering if there's an actual problem with the sound, for a sitar.  I'm not hearing a problem here, but maybe it sounds different on your speakers, or maybe I'm just deaf too. :)  Is it that you don't like the choice of sitar in the song, or that there's something wrong with this particular sitar sound (or perhaps my post production)?

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/16 15:44:47 (permalink)
Really good!.. But man do I love "Electric Strut" ! :)
 
 

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/16 22:44:59 (permalink)
Thanks for taking the time to listen DK.  Glad you like them both!  I was actually going to post Electric Strut here for comments pretty soon.  I think it needs something, but not sure what.

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/17 15:14:51 (permalink)
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In fact the point of it is to "meander" and allow the listener to daydream, rather than be focused in on the music.
 

 
That's maybe why the sitar bothered me. In that, it made me focus on "what's that obnoxious sound"....
 
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Is it that you don't like the choice of sitar in the song, or that there's something wrong with this particular sitar sound (or perhaps my post production)?

 
As I said before it might be a personal thing. But yes, the particular (fake) sound. But then, I don't really know because I haven't heard it with a real sitar. I just think some sounds are sampled better than others. And, I think sitars are pretty hard to get right.
 
piano would be nice ??

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/17 15:27:27 (permalink)
Nice rich mix on this piece

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/17 22:40:31 (permalink)
Thanks for the follow up Tim.  Unfortunately I don't know anyone with a real sitar.  Personally I think it sounds a little edgy, but intentionally so.  As for piano, I think that would bring the song "back down to earth" a bit... which is what I don't want to do. ;)  I guess we're going to have to disagree on this one.
 
@twisted6s: thanks for listening Tony, and for your kind comment.

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/18 14:53:47 (permalink)
Great work! The stereo image is perfect...sounds really good here.

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/18 15:14:28 (permalink)
Thanks so much Clint!  I appreciate your comments and your time.

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/18 22:14:43 (permalink)
I think the mix here is pretty good. The theme is fairly constant.No sudden departures,breaks or tempo changes. The sounds are fairly consistent . If I were to put this In a nut shell I would say it is predictably consistent. Nothing happens that I'm not trained to expect. Still, what it is is good .

At the beginning The first three chords are similar to the song from the Matrix, only a slower tempo.That last chord is a diminished or something different. The ascending chord idea is similar. I'm sure you didn't plan the similarity. If you're just getting the feel of synths, this is a good start. One thing you did that is a departure from a norm is that you used the sitar in a way I'm unaccustomed to hearing it. You made it sound more western to my ears.

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/18 23:19:29 (permalink)
Well, predictable isn't exactly what I was going for, but thanks for listening Starise. :)

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/19 14:29:03 (permalink)
Consistent and also good ;) There are so many of these kinds of tunes out there that I was simply saying that in order to grab the attention of some listeners anything that breaks an expectation might add interest. I hope I didn't offend you. Our western ears hear movie sound tracks all the time and synth background music. Some synth patches can scare the piss out of the listener, or at least make them listen a little closer. If you were to add some heavy drums and bass about one or two measures in that would notch it up a bit,maybe add a solo synth in there or a guitar. This is all JMO and since I didn't make it or know what you were thinking I have no way to know what you objective was. If you set out to make something relaxing and meditative this is it. If you wanted to make it fly a little there are things you could do.

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/19 14:39:24 (permalink)
No offense taken Starise!  My objective for this one was ambient background stuff that sets a mood, but doesn't demand your attention.  It's meant more a "flavor" than a song.  I do appreciate all your comments, and will keep them in mind in the future when I'm making something less ambient and more song-ish.

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/19 14:44:05 (permalink)
Nice, atmospheric and mellow - cubby broccoli watch out!
 
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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/19 15:11:24 (permalink)
Don't think Mr. Broccoli is in much trouble from me. ;)  Thanks for listening and commenting @thegaltieribrothers!

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/21 19:08:07 (permalink)
Walt, it's nice and full and balanced to my ears.  The tune is different and I like it. 

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/21 19:58:55 (permalink)
Thanks Warren.  I appreciate your time and ears. :)

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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/22 06:15:47 (permalink)
I liked it especially when the the beat starts at 0:29 and the sitar starts to dissolve, I enjoyed listening to it. 
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Re: Neptune's Oceans 2013/09/22 13:15:27 (permalink)
Thanks jaws44!  I appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment, and I'm glad you enjoyed it.

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