New Song Polychromatic Daydream

Bumping this for feedback.  All crits and comments welcome.

The drum mix is the weakest part of the production.  What are you using for drum samples?  Do you have the option of using room mic and/or overhead mics?

Nice orbiting. I couldn't listen on proper phones/speaks or at a proper volume due to people sleeping... But I enjoyed what I could hear of the lead guitar, good job Rino. 

BretB
Not sure if you mean each part wasn't exploited enough or if it went on too much. It is a bit long as whole and I appreciate you sticking with it and commenting. Thanks.

Bobby
Glad you enjoyed this. I did make an attempt to keep it evolving with the exception of the verse bridge chorus (if you can even call it that) going twice. Steve is one of a kind and I do love his playing and his willingness to experiment and be adventurous. Wasn't trying to cop him as nobody really can but if you think there's a tinkling of that spirit in there then thank you very much. I appreciate the listen and comment.

jsaras
You have some great ears. I used EZ DFH with separate tracks. I foolishly deleted the room track and turned the overheads way way down. Added some comp to each track. The drums stood out clearer when I did this. My intention was to add some verb for room and treat the cymbals as well. Then I couldn't get the drums/cymbals to not wash out when I attempted to treat them. It is exactly the room and overhead. Pretty amazing (to me anyway) that you nailed both. I've done a half dozen funky psychedelic type tunes over the past few months and I don't have the issue of getting the drums to stand out with the room/mic. It's the tom heavy rock songs I can't seem to find a balance for. It seems that when I turn the room and OH down they sound more separate and clear but lifeless. I'm going to try and fix this. Thanks for listening and commenting.

Herb
I hear you on the long songs thing. I love em myself. 100% synth? You're kidding :-). Didn't you read the song description on soundcloud? "lot's of guitars and synthesizer"  I'm kidding and I know what you mean tho. Funny thing is the guitars are a class A amp with an amperex bugle boy in there. You would have loved them before I shoved every effect known to mankind on them LOL. I love pure tones and I love effected tones equally. Bass is a Warwick corvette into a Joe meek VC6 and then an avalon U5. I wanted this one effected all round. Thanks for the listen and comments. 

Robby
Wouldn't have known this was you had I not seen your comments on MGH's tune. Yeah I'm currently in a hyperbolic orbit and should be making my escape soon. C'mon wake everybody up. They'll get thier hour back. I appreciate the listen and comment.
 

Some nice work RSynth.  As my grammy winning songwriting friend says to me, "Moments of Genius and Moments of Disaster".  I didn't really hear the disaster part but I understand that's his way of not telling me what he's really hearing.  He's a big producer and forgets when we were hauling amps in his 62 Ford Falcon to play for $25.  Sorry I got off track.  I like the movements but usually don't listen so lonmg.  I did on this and I believe I like it.  "Moments of genius and moments of Not Genius."  Ha , my new big shot producer line.  Nice work (and lots of it!!!)

I like the tune as well. The drums were the weakest part as said.

Cool tune.  Really great guitar playing.  Enjoyed the clean guitars, too.

Nice guitar harmonies.  You've got a ton of cool stuff here. 

Nice arrangement and mix, too.

Hey,


Wow, I almost missed this great instrumental, but I'm sure glad I didn't!  I really love this song.


Very cool stuff, I really like the textured synth work and the thick, smooth tone and tasty playing on the guitar solos.  The clean guitar is sparkling nicely, and the the "bubbly" sounding synth at around 3:40 was a nice touch, as well as the wah-wah solo sections.  The bass sounds fantastic, and the entire mix is really clean, wide sounding, and well polished.


I'm on my second listen. I easily hung in there for the full eight minutes, and personally, I think the changes of the soundscape throughout the entire arrangement works very well at holding interest even if the song is a little bit longer than usual.  But then again, I also wore out my copy of "Innagadadavida"!


Really dynamite writing, killer playing and great production work, fantastic job!
Bob

Many, many nice sections – some of which could become tracks on their own.   It’s a bit of a musical bombardment and it overpowers me – I think it keeps me from getting familiar with any particular section and therefore I can’t get a real appreciation for a set of chords and melodies. It’s kind of like when I’d watch my kids playing video games and they keep moving from scene to scene - the music changes quickly and unexpectedly. Outstanding guitar playing and the double tracked harmonies are perfect. Good composition and terrific musicianship!

I like the voices, and the pads and synths. And the overall makeup of the song? I can't comment on the mix because I listen on laptop speaks these daze... The rhythm guitar (one of them) was a tad out of tune.

The orbiting was AWESOME!!! 

And I enjoyed the waw waw, and chorus effects. 

All in all, I particularly enjoyed this. And my buddy who was over who hears me listen to many things? Got up and came over and said, "who is this?" :-) And I said, "you haven't heard of him, but he's good!" :-D

-Robby

Hey Rhyno,
I really enjoyed this piece.  I didn't have a problem with the flow and enjoyed all 8 minutes.  What a cool change and synth sounds used around 3:22.  At times between the synth pads used and the tone of the electric guitar I felt a STEVE MILLER/RUSH/QUEEN vibe.
The mix on my end was clean and clear.  I'd have to say your weak link are the drums in this mix.  They just don't sound like they are sharing the same space as the rest of the instruments.  Maybe they need more verb/delay or to be set back in the mix just a smidge.  I would also play with the EQ a bit on the snare. It has a bit of a paper snap sound.  A thicker snap IMO would sound better.  All in all, a really FANTASTIC performance/ tune.  KUDOS!

Kev

Love alot of the guitat work and the way every thing builds in the beginning. I would like to hear a bit more reverb in the drums.
 
Terry

Robby Thanks for the extra listen and please thank your friend for the kind words.

Wookie Thanks for listening. I appreciate the comments.

Kev  I laughed after I read the paper snap comment. It really is. Perfect description. I really appreciate the listen,references and kind words.

Steve Thanks for listen and kind words. I appreciate your opinion.

Terry Drums are big issue. Thanks for the listen and nice commnets. Always good to hear from you.

BIABDude Thanks for listening and commneting. Yeah... the paper snare has to go.

Thanks again to all that commented. This was a rough draft and the feedback has been invaluable. It'll take a bit but There are quite a few things I'm going to change as well as redo some parts and rework the drums.

Hey rhyno, cool tune here. Some really crafty ideas and moments of "wow" throughout! I can tell you really put a lot of time into this...it shows. Good guitar stuff going on and everything has a purpose within the tune. The big issues I hear that stick out to me have already been mentioned. The drums need some work..just thin sounding and I'd definitely use a different snare.

Also in the beginning, there is a click sound on every crash that drove me nuts. LOL! Don't know what the heck that is...almost like a metronome click is straying or something. It's really weird. I was surprised no one commented on it...then again, I do have animal hearing. LOL!

The guitars (especially the clean ones with chorus) either have too much chorus going on to where it's messing with your tuning, you're tuned sharp or there may even possibly be an intonation problem or something. But there's definitely a sharp drift somewhere. It also happens on your lead guitar in a few spots too. So I'm thinking your tuning just drifted and it's nothing to worry about.

But other than the above, this is a really cool idea. I listened to the whole song and it kept my attention all the way through. Some really nice solo work on the guitar as well as various textures within the tune that bring it to another level when it needed to be. Nice work bro. :)

-Danny 

Jonbouy


I'm thinking this mix is upside down.

+1000000
 
Your guitar playing is awesome, and that bass sound you got comes through really really well. And the "DreamWeaver" synth gliss is a touch of greatness.
 
But overall the mix sounds like is has a wet blanket over the whole thing.
 
Sorry, I didn't comment earlier, but I mis-took this Poly song for the other one that is on the board!