Hi all,i think that the grass of your neighbourhood is always greener.....For me VVocal is an incredible editing weapon for vocal,sax and bass too,and i think that we know a small part of the potential of this plug in.In my set up is very stable and no problems playing in loop too.Best. Roby.

Beautiful LOVE it, so when are this implemented in SONAR?

Just watched the video but have been following this thread since post #3.

I really like the looks of this. I mean, there's no chance I'll be moving over to Studio One any time soon - if ever, but this is gold! V-Vocal never did it for me. It took me forever to create a decent result so I stoped using it, tried Melodyne and that's the stuff I'll tell ya! If they make this as a feature for any DAW to implement then I'm seriously sad if we won't see this in Sonar. V-Vocal is cumbersome at best and the results are... well... I could never sell it. Even with the whole transfer thing and everything else I've found that Melodyne is worth the extra hassle. And at time it even makes me lazy. I should re-record

I work at a Nuendo based post/versioning studio and they've just upgraded to Nuendo 5.5 which now has an integrated Melodyne-esque pitch/time correction function directly embedded into the audio editor and since I'm primarily working with dubbing where things need to be done quickly, this is very welcome. We've used Melodyne there as well and it's been a godsend but having it integrated like that is absolutely bliss! So we actually don't use Melodyne anymore. At all. BUT, the Nuendo variety is still a gadzillion steps away from being even close to Melodyne. Melodyne is, after all, made by a company that doesn't make any thing else and they manage to stay at the front of this technology with 100% focus. If Cakewalk added the ARA stuff to Sonar, I wouln't even look at the price - I'd upgrade on the spot! They could still include V-Vocal for all I care so people could choose which one to use.

Just my $ and a half

bladetragic


Honestly I feel like this is the type of cutting edge, forward thinking that Cakewalk should be pushing toward rather than Pro Channel modules and plugins. There's so much of that already! There's really nothing that PC and FX Chains seems to offer that you can't already accomplish in the plugin world. I really hope their cooking up something innovative for the next version of Sonar.

I would agree, generally;  but I think "FX Chains 2.0" is actually a useful and forward-thinking approach.  It takes things we have (FX plugins) and provides useful and interesting ways in how we can use them.   Chains 2.0 is like building blocks.  And because it's so easy to create new chains (anyone can do it), it also makes it a highly accessible approach and tool.

I do agree that putting too much energy into "modules" for PC is a bit redundant, though.   For the moment it's getting CW some extra income so it probably will remain a focus for awhile.

Putting energy and resources into a gapless audio approach would be a very welcomed thing, and would probably play nice with ARA if Sonar was to implement it.   But Cake haven't made getting a gapless engine a priority yet, so I'm not sure they ever will.

I see its just released so now we can all see what it can do.

fitzj


I see its just released so now we can all see what it can do.

I just got my copy (I upgraded today) and will be checking S1-2.0 out shortly.

I'm kind of excited.  I can now run all my favorite hosts (or as some of you call them, DAWs) on my main machine.   Life is good LOL

The upgrade is tempting, particularly in view of the new comping possibilities - akin to Logic's swipe comp - and object-based effect. I went as far as clicking the buy button but changed my mind at the last minute. I mean, I don't need this, do I? But who knows - if the Logic X upgrade turns out to be a mess similar to Final Cut X and if I can ever get over my aversion for the color blue, I might be hooked. ;)

Still, I'll wait until I hear what you early upgraders think...

Hey Billy,  I noticed they had 2 different versions (32 and 64 bit) for the demo. I also noticed that there is no bridging technology built in (I think). I have a lot of 32 bit plugs that don't work in Sonar64, so I use Sonar32 and everything (plugs) works. Do they give you a 32 and 64 bit version when you bought S1? Thanks. 

timidi


Hey Billy,  I noticed they had 2 different versions (32 and 64 bit) for the demo. I also noticed that there is no bridging technology built in (I think). I have a lot of 32 bit plugs that don't work in Sonar64, so I use Sonar32 and everything (plugs) works. Do they give you a 32 and 64 bit version when you bought S1? Thanks. 

As Jon already replied - you can download and install both 32 and 64 bit versions under the license.

It will be interesting to see how this new Studio One release affects the market in general.  I do suspect this ARA may have some legs.   Like many others, I've never been a big fan of the way V-Vocal interfaces (it seems just a tad bit clumsy) and is touchy/sensitive as well.   IF ARA kicks in (gets big / good public response) we may see Cake and other vendors be forced into adapting it.

Only time will tell.

From their' info, it's supposed to seemlessly adjust the interface to handle both 32 and 64 bit plugins invisibly???

That sounds like another cleanup (if it works)...

As Roland now seems to own Cakewalk, I'm guessing we won't see this added, but maybe it will get them to update V-Vocal to keep up with the Jones' (and maybe add an extra traick or two?)...

VV does most of what MeloD does other than the obvious polyphonic abilites (no small feat)... But it's interface seems to be more centralized...

Keni

I am thinking of getting some yamaha hs80m's but Studio One seems to be turning many heads. The list is Phenomanal for only being version 2 with new code they will be single handedly setting a new presidence never seen before EVER in the DAW world, capatilizing on the old DAWs into a new 64bit world where it doesn't matter if you use 32 bit plug ins or you use 64bit with endless possibilities. (I am running out of superlatives) Melodyne working in ARA mode to bring to life your projects with not so much as a jitter or a judder while its audio engine is being much touted with in the industry Ba Midi let us know how you find it...thats if he ever comes of a Studio One. He may have to go to rehab to ween himself of it. Well I'm going to fire up ole X1 :(

I've been looking at some of the new developments in S1 2 and I think that these new innovations will send a small but notable shock wave throughout the DAW community, if in fact this proves to be a  stable piece of work. Ease of use, resulting in greater productivity and creativity, will allow the user to have more time for creativity, and less work and frustration to get there. And this approach is the magic bullet for musicians everywhere: to be able to just simply create music and not to struggle through endless obstacles of technicalities and troubleshooting malfunctioning hardware and software.

These videos explain some of the new offerings. 
http://studioone.presonus.com/v2/ 

Every new innovation, from whatever vendor, ultimately leads to more benefit for the consumer because it induces competition and greater innovation from every DAW. Listen to the complaints here on this forum, and elsewhere, and you will hear the common outcry of musicians everywhere that want less hassle in their DAW. They want to be creative, first and foremost. The DAW that heeds the desires of these people will surely be rewarded with eager and grateful adulation [and lots of money].

Well...as a Sonar user for years (check out my join date), I can say...officially, that Studio One just knocked Sonar off the #1 spot for me. I have been using Studio One for around a year for preproduction, then moving tracks over to Sonar for mixing and recording live instruments.  Until today, Studio One could not touch Sonar's track layer capability.  Now.....it smokes it.

Please don't take this the wrong way.  I will continue to monitor Cakewalk's releases and the forums (heck, I own the big V-Studio system, controller and vs700r).  But the slow adoption of basic standards (gapless audio, VST3, etc) has somewhat turned me off to Cakewalk as of late.

Sonar will always have a soft place in my heart...and will hopefully turn it up a notch and get me back soon!

fitzj


Very impressed by the way you can create a midi file by just dragging and dropping from your guitar or piano part and then you load a synth on the midi track and it plays along with the audio track.
A few years ago this was impossible now you can make midi tracks easily from audio tracks.

Will be interesting what Cakewalk will do next?

Wow! That's quite a leap!

Keni

When will Cakewalk comment on ARA??