SF_Green
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/16 19:45:28
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I also got the C++ error but plowed ahead and everything worked fine.
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/16 20:16:15
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I think this might be why whenever you see C++ errors things tend to work anyway since everything that uses C++ installs its own version: 
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/16 21:56:30
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Nope, sorry, not playing that game. Anyone who's curious to hear for themselves what the plugin does or doesn't do can download the thing and go nuts. I won't object if anyone disagrees with my posted opinion.
It is surprising to me that so many have stated they don't hear the effect on a single track -- can't anyone perceive the spectral changes produced by cranking the Detail knob? Maybe try listening to an acoustic guitar track on good headphones. If you still can't hear it, you won't likely hear the difference on a full mix either. That's fine, it won't make or break your song. Carry on.
Cheers,
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for me on drums, i would say you would have to be deaf in both ears not to be able to hear what it does, to me it was quite obvious, and most certainly better. tried it on vocals, again . . . what it does was easily heard, not quite as pronounced as on drums, on over driven guitars again quite easily noticeable, but a little less so than on vocals, perhaps clean guitars would be more obvious, but it was still obvious to me. as yet to try with bass or entire mix scenario, but i can certainly hear it quite easily and for me the after sounded better than the before in all cases. i'd suggest hearing tests all round 
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/16 22:40:13
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☄ Helpfulby SF_Green 2016/09/16 23:10:38
Just watched the free Groove3 tutorial for Neutrino, and it was interesting to see Scott perform a before/after test on a full mix, just as Bitflipper suggested. He also did a null test which was quite revealing -- anyone thinking the plugin doesn't do anything might want to check that out. :-) Cheers, Eddie
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SF_Green
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/16 22:50:29
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Thanks Eddie, I'll check that out. They sure didn't waste any time getting that up on Groove 3!
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/16 23:52:27
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 03:20:04
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PS: What's happened to the forum?? We're back to showing edits that were made to posts only seconds after they've been posted
People have been complaining about this at regular intervals ever since they switched to the new forum software. The annoying thing is that someone eventually fixes it, and it's OK for a while and then boom, back to showing edits after a few seconds. I'd hate to think that some annoying person was actually going in and changing the setting manually, although it's also possible that the forum software is just buggy and doesn't hold settings. Maybe Cake should be more on top of updating vNext - I see that it's currently up to Version 5.5 whereas this forum is stuck on 5.1.
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 03:26:13
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sharke
yorolpal
PS: What's happened to the forum?? We're back to showing edits that were made to posts only seconds after they've been posted
People have been complaining about this at regular intervals ever since they switched to the new forum software. The annoying thing is that someone eventually fixes it, and it's OK for a while and then boom, back to showing edits after a few seconds. I'd hate to think that some annoying person was actually going in and changing the setting manually, although it's also possible that the forum software is just buggy and doesn't hold settings. Maybe Cake should be more on top of updating vNext - I see that it's currently up to Version 5.5 whereas this forum is stuck on 5.1.
And the other thing is the time-stamps are pretty far off too. I noticed when I posted something yesterday, as soon as it posted it said 30 minutes ago. It wasn't even 30 seconds.
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 09:40:20
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True, there's always 30 minutes added. I think it's a philosophical thing.
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 14:01:47
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/09/17 14:56:32
I seem to get the following errors, anyone know what's up with that? When Installing, although plugin seems available, whether working not sure? "Error installing C++ x64 redistributable. Error code 1638" After inserted, (in ProChannel, in FX strip module) after saving and reloading Sonar project, "VST Plug-In Error""The following VST plug-in failed to load c:\program files\cakewalk\vstplugins\Neutrino.dll" Cheers
post edited by JohnEgan - 2016/09/17 14:30:22
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 14:08:34
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You have to pull the code markers out of your post John...
They'll be at the beginning and end and look like this
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 14:14:40
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I got the 1638 error too.
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 14:40:57
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/09/17 15:27:24
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 15:15:23
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☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2016/10/04 10:35:22
Seems like a lot of trouble for a plugin that does nothing.
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 15:20:41
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K so, I removed all Neutrino plug-ins, from all tracks and the ProChannel FX Chain modules it was in, and continue to get the Sonar error, (i.e., "VST Plug-In Error" "The following VST plug-in failed to load c:\program files\cakewalk\vstplugins\Neutrino.dll"
It actually repeats error message 4 times, i.e., requires 4 OK responses), also still showing after renaming project, so seems I'm stuck with this annoying error message at start of any subsequent versions of this project, although not in previous, or other projects.
(I guess nothing is really free, LOL)
Anyone know how to prevent error message? and/or uninstall this plug-in (I don't see it listed in Windows, Control Panel, Programs and Features, as an uninstallable program? Can I remove it in Sonar Plug-in Manager?
(also sent support ticket to Izotope, awaiting reply, probably Monday).
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 15:40:23
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☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2016/09/17 16:02:33
I contacted them about the C error receiving this quick reply Hello, Thank you for downloading Neutrino! I’m sorry you are experiencing this issue with your installation. To resolve this issue, please complete the following: - Uninstall “Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable” x64 and x86. 1. Close all running applications. 2. Enter your Windows Control Panel screen, and select “Uninstall a program” from the Programs category. 3. In the next window, locate Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable in the list. Right-click it and choose “Uninstall.” - Use the link below to download the most up to date Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable driver: https://www.microsoft.com...irmation.aspx?id=48145After the installation process has finished please restart your computer and attempt to run the Neutrino installer. This should solve any issue you are seeing with the installer. Thank you for reaching out and for your support!
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 15:45:30
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Whoa, I've got 20 of those from 2003 till 2015 and some of them show up twice. I wonder if I should uninstall all of them? Anyone? I'm not jumping on to it, so relax. I will wait for some wisdom, as this is not my arena! LOL
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 16:01:49
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☄ Helpfulby SF_Green 2016/09/17 16:36:36
pentimentosound
Whoa, I've got 20 of those from 2003 till 2015 and some of them show up twice. I wonder if I should uninstall all of them? Anyone? I'm not jumping on to it, so relax. I will wait for some wisdom, as this is not my arena! LOL
Michael
Same here from 2005 to 2015, from MS site it indicates uninstalling previous C++ versions, may cause other older programs, that may use these previous versions not to function properly.
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 16:28:49
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JohnEgan
It actually repeats error message 4 times, i.e., requires 4 OK responses),
This is due to 4 DLL's... VST 32 bit Vst 64 bit VST3 32 bit VST3 64 bit = 4 OK's
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 16:32:23
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/09/17 17:08:17
Ironically, this desktop is only a couple years old, so those older C++ got installed with my programs. This PC only had Windows 8.1 on it, then.
Well, I'm in no hurry to do anything. I imagine I'll learn a bunch during this "episode". LOL
Michael
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 19:36:27
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Well I resolved Neutrino issues i.e., VST Plug-In Error" "The following VST plug-in failed to load c:\program files\cakewalk\vstplugins\Neutrino.dll"
Uninstalled it from programs list, LOL.
Cheers
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/17 21:08:27
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/09/17 22:15:47
clintmartin
Seems like a lot of trouble for a plugin that does nothing.
Story of my life ;)
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/18 04:32:17
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Inspite of getting those 1638 errors, the plugin now shows up in PIM, but i can't hear the difference it makes when inserted on a clean guitar track.
Must be my old ears .............
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/18 06:51:32
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I went back and tried neutrino again. My first test with a vocal track, a guitar track and a bass track I didn't hear any difference. As others report hearing subtle differences I tried it again, this time with an Alesis SR-18 drum track. I can hear a difference that seems to take the edge (highs) off of the drums and sort of dulls them down. Its not something I would want on my drum tracks.
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/18 10:43:08
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☄ Helpfulby pentimentosound 2016/09/18 12:37:54
Regarding those 1638 errors, that's something iZotope should fix. They are probably building new install packages using an old template that's been around since Ozone 1. Devs are often guilty of that, including yours truly. It's partly laziness, but mostly it's because once you have a process that works, you don't want to re-invent it. Ironically, one includes the C++ redist package in installers to avoid problems!
Although uninstalling the redist, as suggested to rickbail by iZotope, will avoid the error messages it shouldn't be necessary. My advice would be to just ignore the error messages. If you're on Windows 10 (and probably 7 and 8, too) the plugin will work fine.
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/09/18 12:18:27
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Thanks for that confirmation bit. Mine seems to be working and I figured I ought to leave all the C++ alone...
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/10/04 02:18:31
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late to the game. so what's the verdict? given up due to installation issues? sharke
Don't know what went wrong with the formatting of that link. Here it is again. 4 bars on, 4 bars off. It's on the drum setting with the dials cranked up.
https://soundcloud.com/sh...p-dirtydrums-117-rex-5
not sure if that's the way it is meant to yield much difference. according to the izotope tech blog Its effect is meant to be very subtle so that it doesn’t disrupt the intricacies of your mix, but instead adds just the slightest amount of that special “something” to each of your tracks which reminds a lot of plugs like tape emulation, which you need to apply across several tracks to achieve a difference that is audible right away (meaning by that point you have probably overcooked it) ... however, izotope claims it is not colouring like tape emulations (which will make it even harder to notice) ... hmmm, to me it sounds a bit like aspirin and placebo in the same bottle ... you may not know what you get until you had too many
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/10/04 14:09:19
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☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2016/10/04 14:33:26
The "slightest amount" indeed. There'll be a full paid version the adds even less.
It's the newest trend in signal processing: homeopathic plugins.
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/10/04 14:19:20
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The "slightest amount" indeed. There'll be a full paid version the adds even less.
It's the newest trend in signal processing: homeopathic plugins.
LOL. But seriously, once you got hi-grade hardware and a properly treated room, you may not need extra-efficient plugins. Looks like iZotope has got the trend right.
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Re: New iZotope Neutrino - Free!
2016/10/04 14:22:49
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Oh that got me laughing! Thanks for that.
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