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Re: Not happy with X3 Producer.... 2017/04/14 18:17:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby M.G. 2017/04/15 04:38:40
Yes I answered you in Hardware, The Lexicons are well known problem child interfaces. They never update their drivers, I have the Lexicon MX200 and it only works in XP. I highly recommend you bring yourself up to date. 
Nothing wrong with staying with Windows 7. But good idea to update your interface and Sonar. 

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Re: Not happy with X3 Producer.... 2017/04/14 19:32:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby M.G. 2017/04/15 04:39:10
Yes those Lexicons are not easy.
you would be better of with something like this:

You can buy them used for under 100 bucks. and no headaches.

Chuck Jones 
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Re: Not happy with X3 Producer.... 2017/04/15 04:41:58 (permalink)
Johnny/Chuck - thanks again!  I've been looking at the 2i2... that's probably what I'll get.
 
Looking forward to finding my way around X3...
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Re: Not happy with X3 Producer.... 2017/04/15 07:27:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/04/15 13:35:23
Focusrite have been pretty good at giving away some impressive plugins to registered hardware users:
 
https://uk.focusrite.com/plugin-collective
 

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Re: Not happy with X3 Producer.... 2017/04/15 10:49:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby M.G. 2017/04/15 17:51:35
M.G.
Thanks again for everyone's comments! Work has been hectic of late so I had to put recording on hold for a few weeks... I now have a long weekend, I will try to sort through X3 again (understanding that it will take longer than I originally thought).
 
Kenny and Chuck - it sounds like you both were in the same place I am now... and seeing you both got through it (and recommend X3) is encouraging  :)
 
 
M.G.
 
P.S.  some songs I recorded in 2008 (using Sonar 6 I believe):
www.reverbnation.com/bitd
 
 




M G ,
 
Hey man you have some nice sounding Hard Rock Music in your links ...
 
As far as your transition from SONAR 6 to X3  I'm not gonna BS you and tell you it's gonna be an easy one .
In all honesty I still get frustrated at times myself ...
When I was using SONAR 6 I was pretty much using it like a glorified tape machine that could also do midi ...
X3 brought so much more to the table compared to what appeared to be the limited functionality of SONAR 6 .
I found X3 to be somewhat of a shock as to realizing that I had everything I needed to get to the next level with my recordings ..the thing is I didn't know how to use what I had ..
As a guitarist I never backed down from that sort of challenge . I have pretty much enjoyed trying to learn new things and ways of playing my AXE ...
For some odd reason I found it very hard to apply the same adventuress willingness to learn mindset from my guitar playing over to using and learning my way around X3 ...
At the time I realized that I felt threatened by my own DAW  .. I also felt stupid most of the time because I didn't know what I was doing as I tried to learn new workflows ... When I did learn something useful and new , it only stuck for about  a day or two and then I had to relearn how to do it all over again ..
I think the one thing that saved me the most  from going under is I tried my best to keep the focus on my Music when all else seemed to fail
 
Good luck ...oh before I go I'm pretty happy with my Focusrite 2i4
all the best,
Kenny
 
 
 
 

                   
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Re: Not happy with X3 Producer.... 2017/04/15 13:48:27 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby M.G. 2017/04/15 16:54:46
Ya MG those are some cool tunes man.
Is that a guitar sim or a mic'd cab ? Good guitar tone.
I checked out all 5 songs. the last one ( somebody) I think it was has a totally different sound to it.Well to be honest, they all do. these 5 tunes would sound good if you remade them all, keeping the sound consistent (like an album is).
 
You'll notice a big difference in pre amps with the Focusrite. The Alphas had crap pre amps even though I believe they may have even been made by Focusrite at one point (in the omega models).
what ever you end up doing, keep in touch with us :-)

Chuck Jones 
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Re: Not happy with X3 Producer.... 2017/04/15 16:22:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby M.G. 2017/04/15 16:38:47
I'd choose the Tascam 2x2 over the Scarlett for the pre amps and because it has A/C power option. The Stienbergs I would also think have better options at that price point. 
My biggest complaint about the 6i6 is the pre amps are over sensitive to input. You get it set with a nice level and, bang, it's gone over... So you turn it down a little bit and your track is now sitting at a very useless level. My Tascam does not suffer this at all. So I use a Joe Meek pre amp for most live input. So to each their own with pre amps but I'm shopping for a new interface which will most likely be a Motu. 

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Re: Not happy with X3 Producer.... 2017/04/15 16:46:01 (permalink)
Johnny V - thanks for your help.  In my other thread (maybe I should've just posted the questions here?) I mentioned I'm going to look into the Tascams and Steinberg you listed.
 
M.G.
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Re: Not happy with X3 Producer.... 2017/04/15 16:57:03 (permalink)
Chuck/Kenny - thanks for the positive feedback!  When I recorded them I was still finding my way around the DAW... using different methods/settings for guitar, vocals etc for each song.  Most of the guitars are either through a Digitech Legend II (over 20 years old and still my favorite!) or Sansamp GT2 ( and sometimes both).  I think "Someday" has one or two mic'd tracks (Peavey Bandit, 30W 1-12" solid state w/Transtube).
 
I have many more songs I want to record but I also want to re-record those five... once I get the hang of X3  :)
 
M.G.
www.reverbnation.com/bitd
 
 
post edited by M.G. - 2017/04/15 17:45:42
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Re: Not happy with X3 Producer.... 2017/04/16 00:37:15 (permalink)
I will stay here, X3 Producer, until one day (I do not know when) to go for the Platinum! So, I keep reading this threads for info.
 
Thx to all the contributors to this thread! 
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