[CWBRN-25395] - Nudging note events in take lanes doesn't work properly

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[CWBRN-25395] - Nudging note events in take lanes doesn't work properly

I strongly recommend not using nudge when you want to move note events in take lanes. It could delete some of note events in the clip.
 
[Steps to Reproduce the Issue]
1. Create a new project and drag a soft synth from the Browser into the Track view, with associated tracks (audio+MIDI).
2. Drag a MIDI file (let's use "A Major Pentatonic 1.mid" in MIDI Library > Scales) into the MIDI track.
3. Hit Shift+T on the MIDI track to display the take lane.
4. Click the Add Take Lane button to insert a new lane.
5. Hold Shift+Ctrl and drag the MIDI clip up to duplicate the clip into the new lane (if the clips are linked as a result, unlink them by right-clicking and choosing "Unlink").
6. Transpose the clip in lane 1 (T1) by Process > Transpose (Amount: 7).
7. Hit Alt+3 to open the Piano Roll view.
8. Change the foreground color of the two clips, using the Clips Properties Inspector, to make the issue easy to identify, like this (Note: the color of the note events in PRV fails to change and I believe this is a bug):

9. Lasso-select some of the notes of the clip in lane 1 (T1), like this:

10. Nudge the note events to the right a few times (or several times) and then nudge them back to the left to the original position by hitting Num3/6/9 and Num1/4/7 (depending on your nudge settings).
11. See Result 1 in [Expected Results] and [Actual Results] below.
12. Undo the previous actions and go back to just before step #9.
13. Lasso-select some of the notes of the clip in lane 2 (T2), like this:

14. Repeat step #10, and see Result 2 in [Expected Results] and [Actual Results] below.
 
 
[Expected Results]
Results 1 & 2:
Note events nudged move horizontally in the same lane and no other note events are affected.
 
 
[Actual Results]
Result 1:

 
Result 2:

 

Issue #: CWBRN-25395
Reported on April 9, 2014
Confirmed and submitted to development on April 9, 2014
post edited by CakeAlexS - 2015/02/10 13:09:05

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    Re: Nudging note events in take lanes doesn't work properly (Confirmed by CW) 2014/04/10 17:02:37 (permalink)
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    > (Note: the color of the note events in PRV fails to change and I believe this is a bug).
     
    Confirmed, I suggest logging a new bug.
     
    I managed to reproduce overall the issue in X3E, although other notes got wiped when I did it! Not good...
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    Re: Nudging note events in take lanes doesn't work properly (Confirmed by CW) 2014/04/11 12:10:54 (permalink)
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    > (Note: the color of the note events in PRV fails to change and I believe this is a bug).
     
    Confirmed, I suggest logging a new bug.  

     
    I think I should wait till this issue is fixed. It has to be fixed first or my workflow will be severely damaged. 

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    Re: Nudging note events in take lanes doesn't work properly (Confirmed by CW) 2015/02/04 15:07:33 (permalink)
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    Has this been fixed finally in 2015 subscription model?  This effectively kills my workflow and can't believe it has been unfixed for almost a year.  



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    Re: Nudging note events in take lanes doesn't work properly (Confirmed by CW) 2015/02/04 20:36:25 (permalink)
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    Unfortunately, it's not fixed yet (still reproducible).

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    Re: Nudging note events in take lanes doesn't work properly (Confirmed by CW) 2015/02/05 01:12:27 (permalink)
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    Thank you for checking.  Oy.  I was ready to sign on but I guess I will wait on starting that subscription if something as fundamental as Piano roll micro-editing is not only not-functional, but is actually data-damaging.  Is there anywhere that says what has been fixed so we can see which of the broken existing features were corrected rather than what new features have been introduced?



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    Re: Nudging note events in take lanes doesn't work properly (Confirmed by CW) 2015/02/27 14:27:10 (permalink)
    +1 (1)
    In Platinum, this problem can now create extra clips as a side-effect:
     


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    Re: [CWBRN-25395] - Nudging note events in take lanes doesn't work properly 2015/02/27 15:21:12 (permalink)
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    Ouch - it is getting worse instead of better?  The nudging "mows down" other notes in the track indiscriminately as it floods your tracklanes with endless extraneous clips.  I wonder how many people have unwittingly scoured untold notes and borked entire takes by this editing bug?
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    Re: [CWBRN-25395] - Nudging note events in take lanes doesn't work properly 2015/02/27 15:31:29 (permalink)
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    I think it might be better in today's update. I've not seen it recur in the last hour I've been testing, anyway.

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    Re: [CWBRN-25395] - Nudging note events in take lanes doesn't work properly 2015/03/02 21:20:08 (permalink)
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    Confused as to what the behaviour is with Braintree.

    Thanks.

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    Re: [CWBRN-25395] - Nudging note events in take lanes doesn't work properly 2015/03/03 07:39:11 (permalink)
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    Actually I do still get this bug. Events get removed by nudging, at least.

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