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Re:I think Freddie is suffering from LCCS.
2012/11/19 10:33:03
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I don't mind people airing their grievances on the forum but Freddie man... it seems all you do is freak out in ridiculously large fonts. Like others said... if you rely on Sonar to make money why would you install a brand new release without testing it first? That's what I did and I'm n00bie dumbarse. Especially considering that Sonar seems to be known for a bit of instability upon first release. I think they just do not have the staff and time to comb through every possible scenario that might come up looking for bugs so they rely on the early adopters.
Sure, discuss and report the bugs just like most of us do here and through the reporting process but it seems to me like you are actively spending/wasting your time scouring every corner of the program to find things to freak out about. Do you ever get any music recorded? The other problem is when you come on here freaking out instead of calmly discussing and confirming these things with other forum members and reporting it directly to Cake you create a real bad buzz about the product many of have working well and love. It also makes the forum more negative. There was absolutely no reason you needed to post all those images of the deals you've been emailed and what are they supposed to do? Stop promoting their products completely because they haven't finished the patch yet? These things take time and I for one would prefer they TAKE that time and do it right so we don't have to patch 3 more times in the next year.
The point is it seems like you think you are helping Cakewalk and the forum when in reality you are hurting the brand by clogging google searches with these constant barrages of angst and creating tension on the forum.
Sorry for the rant and it's nothing personal but I've seen your threads since I've been here and have been biting my tongue. X2 may be buggy but it does work when set up properly. Those who don't understand what you are talking about (like me about five months ago) read this stuff and just think that it's an unusable platform (which is false) and Cake loses potential customers which hurts the brand which in turn hurts us users because they don't have as much money for development and promo deals.
And before anyone calls me a "fanboi", when stuff is broken I do not give Cakewalk free pass on it. I ask and warn others here in hopes it can be confirmed and maybe Cake does something to fix it. But I do NOT freak out and poop all over Cakewalk. I'll state my opinion, see what everyone else thinks and maybe find a workaround. If I was that upset about something I would simply stop giving them my money.
It is that simple. Peace.
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Re:I think Freddie is suffering from LCCS.
2012/11/19 10:51:33
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Oh and another thing... one of the bakers asked you nicely in one of your threads to chill out a bit. They don't delete your posts and seem to respond to as many of your reports as they can but you still give them no credit for that. They pointed out that when you create huge list of stuff that a lot of which aren't even really bugs or things that they have already been made aware of then try to get the forum to mass report them that it wastes the programmers time. Instead of working on fixes they are having to rifle through duplicate reports and issues that are user error and or hardware problems. That hurts us all. Believe me man... I want a patch too but you view it as "OMG!! IT'S BEEN TWO WHOLE MONTHS!!!" whereas I view it as "Well it's only been two months, they're probably still analyzing/confirming the reports and finding solutions". If they don't come up with something in the next month or so I'll join the side screaming for a patch but yeesh... the software hasn't even been out that long and you started freak out in the first week if I recall correctly.
So again... apologies for the rant. I'm usually a chilled out dude on here but I can see many reasons how your approach to this ends up hurting the cause more than it helps. Please just tone it down a bit. You're gonna give yourself a stroke.
Peace.
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Re:Am I the only sane one?
2012/11/19 11:12:03
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I have definitely woken up in an alternate universe this morning. Why on earth would a customer be loyal?
I couldn't agree more. It baffles me why certain people come on here year after year complaining about Sonar.
Really? The two of you have never heard the term customer loyalty? Huh. I held the top spot in the Fortune 500 company I used to work for, for customer loyalty, 5 years in a row. Then I left, or I still would have hold of the title, and it's part of your review now at that company. They called it 'Customer Retention', but it's the same thing. They kept track of how many customers came back to renew their maintenance contracts, and purchase new equipment from our company. It was a sales and service based company, and service 100% directly effected whether or not existing customers stayed loyal to you. You could, and we did on several occasions, give someone an office full of equipment for free, and because the service sucked ... they refused to take it. We lost people who had been with us for 10 years and more because a technician went in there and in 2 months pissed them off so much they went with someone else. The thing with Cakewalk is, we are never told something is buggy. We see all these cutsie video's by these guys that show how awesome the next version of Sonar is, and how well it works, and how great your work flow will be now. Then you get Sonar, for example X1, and some of the very things they showed in their video's were broken. Flat out not working. But yet, we keep being led to believe that Sonar is being shipped as advertised and works great. I have a Ford Focus, and love it. When I next buy a car, I will try another one. If I buy a new model and it's terrible, I will think twice about getting another. I would not keep trying them and complaining on some Ford Focus forum, I'd just buy a different car.
Yeah, well, we're not talking about something with moving and mechanical parts that wear out. We're talking about a software tool that does a very specific job that hasn't done what it was advertised to do in quite some time. I, like many others, found Sonar X1 stable, especially X1d, which was rock solid FOR ME. When X2 came out, I bought it because I'd been so happy with X1. I didn't initialy use it for paying work, as new software is often buggy. After the quick fix, X2 became very stable for me.
So, you're not loyal, but you're ok going in to a purchase that only has a 12 month life cycle, knowing it's going to be broken, and hope and pray they get some of the bugs fixed before they discontinue it's life cycle and force you to buy the next upgrade? And you keep doing this over and over? Call me crazy, but that sounds like Customer Loyalty to me. Y? N? If X1 had been bad for me, I wouldn't have updated, and would be looking elsewhere.
I see you joined in 2011, so I don't know how much time you've had with Sonar products ... but if you had many years in to learning the software like some of us, you'd have a better understanding of what we're talking about I think. Or not. I don't know. Does it really matter?  @Freddie: Sucks to be on this side of the fence doesn't it?
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Re:Am I the only sane one?
2012/11/19 11:16:35
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X1 had a 2 year life cycle.
Just sayin'...........
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Re:Am I the only sane one?
2012/11/19 11:21:01
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I have a feeling we'll see a proper patch in the next month or so. That seems reasonable to me. On my computer X2 actually seems to be MORE stable in many ways than X1d was and when it does go all wonky it's not a spectacular failure like with X1. Most of the time I don't even have to restart the program. X1 would completely crap the bed.
I know others are having more problems than I am though and I do feel for them.
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Re:I think Freddie is suffering from LCCS.
2012/11/19 12:13:05
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I hear you folks!
I'm not saying I have crazy problems with SONAR X2. I like X2 and X2 is still very stable here too.
But there are numerous of BUGS going on. Is it too much to ask for an update after 2-3 month?
How long wait is a fair to wait? 6 months ,a year?
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Re:I think Freddie is suffering from LCCS.
2012/11/19 12:16:18
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Freddie, it'll take as long as it takes.
You should know this - you've been around for long enough.
I hop nobody is of the opinion that finding reproducible bugs and then writing code to fix them WITHOUT upsetting anything else is an easy gig.
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Re:Numerous problems reported with X2, 2-3 month later still no real update?
2012/11/19 12:17:08
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Excuse me Freddie H but you are being extremely rude and self-centred!
You! Sir! Are attempting to be a cue jumper!
The bakers I am certain, are STILL hard at work fixing the 24/96 bug in the TTS-1 which must be extremely buggie buggie buggie because myself and I know absolutely for sure that at least one other forum member reported this to the bakers. In Oct 2010.
On completion of this then I’m sure they will be moving on to the PX-64 Percussion Strips buggie buggie bugginess, Alzheimer's disease, where it’s main symptom is difficulty in remembering recent events. That is to say “PRESETS” in addition “USER personalised settings” which on return to a project have disappeared in to a black holes event horizon never to be seen again.
May I respectfully suggest Freddie me old mate, that IMHO your wait will be long a tedious for I have no faith that X2a will make us all feel like happy chappies due to the “fiscal policy rationalisation” on behalf of Tokyo
But I do have a confession to make. I think I my self are a cue jumper! Because I think there are others that have been waiting longer then you and me.
Sorry for the minimalist approach to my reply
With regards to you opinion of the bakers ect all I can say is… “RIGHT SAID FRED”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEmJ-VWPDM4
Much much much more to come 
Rude? 2 month later soon 3 and still no update after numerous bug report sended by all kind of users worldwide?
Come on, Glenn! 
It should be their top-main priority to fix the bugs. Don't forget, for many of us SONAR X2 is a tool to make business.
Freddie - I am in no way trying to de-legitimize your frustrations here. I do have to say this - if you have upgraded your primary recording station to X2 without a thorough test outside of your production needs, then you have not made a particularly bright business decision. ALWAYS put such a major cornerstone purchase onto a test machine while you work through any issues, bugs, workarounds, learning, etc., PRIOR to making it your primary production recording software.
It would seem to me that you must have some prior version still installed. Just use that until the rest of things get sorted out. I am QUITE sure that the bakers are hard at work getting as many things ready for beta testing - or may even HAVE things in testing, to address a large number of both minor annoyances as well as major problems.
I would also say that there are a great many folks out here in the forum, myself included, that are quite happily chugging along with X2. I happen to like it a lot - and will probably like it more when some of the inconveniences are addressed. In any case, I also have retained my X1 Producer Expanded, along with my 8.5.3 - just to make sure I can do my work on SOME workable version of the software.
If you are running a business with this, then I would suggest you take a look at your contingency planning, and disaster recovery planning - they seem a bit light.
Lastly, the whole giant font thing is really pretty childish.
Bob Bone
Thanks for the input. I still have X1 installed by the way. Lastly, the whole giant font thing, I will stop using it so much in the future.
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Re:Am I the only sane one?
2012/11/19 12:22:12
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@Freddie: Sucks to be on this side of the fence doesn't it?
Hehe  Stay cool my friend! 
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Re:I think Freddie is suffering from LCCS.
2012/11/19 12:24:31
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Freddie, it'll take as long as it takes.
You should know this - you've been around for long enough.
I hop nobody is of the opinion that finding reproducible bugs and then writing code to fix them WITHOUT upsetting anything else is an easy gig.
Sure...but Cake used to be fast with updates. This is a new thing...
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Re:Numerous problems reported with X2, 2-3 month later still no real update?
2012/11/19 12:25:30
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When it comes to stability, I can't fault Cakewalk on the X2 release. I haven't had a single crash yet (I hope that doesn't turn into me jinxing myself). Regarding the bugs: I haven't hit upon a real show-stopper, but from what I've seen, clearly the Take Lanes area needs some attention, and there's some randomness in the PRV zooming that should get addressed. I've reported a bunch of bugs to them too, many of which they've acknowledged, but me, the Take Lanes and PRV zooming should get the focus.
I'm hoping they're taking their time to get this stuff right, as I agree that the comping via Take Lanes seems half baked in it's current incarnation. Fixing that is probably a large effort.
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Re:Numerous problems reported with X2, 2-3 month later still no real update?
2012/11/19 12:28:05
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That and the weird things going on with the meters in track view.
Ok, none of these are showstoppers but these are all new, so finding what's triggering them could take quite while to sort out.
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Re:Numerous problems reported with X2, 2-3 month later still no real update?
2012/11/19 12:41:46
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Lastly, the whole giant font thing, I will stop using it so much in the future. That would be cool. It just seems like you are screaming at us all the time. It's a little off putting. Anyway... I do agree things need to be fixed in a timely manner but compared to even the big software companies out there I think Cakewalk does a pretty decent job catering to their customers especially considering they are a pretty small operation. Hopefully they come out with a patch soon. I appreciate your tenacity in looking for stuff many of us might overlook. I just think your delivery needs a bit of work. We're all in this together. I apologize for calling you out and hope I didn't offend you too much. I just think there are more productive ways to go about these things. Cheers and take care.
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Re:Numerous problems reported with X2, 2-3 month later still no real update?
2012/11/19 13:59:02
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Lastly, the whole giant font thing, I will stop using it so much in the future.
That would be cool. It just seems like you are screaming at us all the time. It's a little off putting. Anyway... I do agree things need to be fixed in a timely manner but compared to even the big software companies out there I think Cakewalk does a pretty decent job catering to their customers especially considering they are a pretty small operation. Hopefully they come out with a patch soon. I appreciate your tenacity in looking for stuff many of us might overlook. I just think your delivery needs a bit of work. We're all in this together. I apologize for calling you out and hope I didn't offend you too much. I just think there are more productive ways to go about these things.
Cheers and take care.
Cheers and have a great week my friend!
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Re:Numerous problems reported with X2, 2-3 month later still no real update?
2012/11/19 14:12:40
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Thanks, man. You too. ;-)
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Re:Am I the only sane one?
2012/11/19 14:14:02
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I have definitely woken up in an alternate universe this morning. Why on earth would a customer be loyal?
I couldn't agree more. It baffles me why certain people come on here year after year complaining about Sonar.
Really? The two of you have never heard the term customer loyalty?
That isn't what I said, I asked why would a customer be 'loyal'. To me loyalty means never looking elsewhere and taking whatever is served up without question. I've been using CW products since I first bought Guitar Tracks pro then upgraded when Sonar 2 came out, not because I consider myself loyal, although others might I guess. I use them because they work for me.
The thing with Cakewalk is, we are never told something is buggy. We see all these cutsie video's by these guys that show how awesome the next version of Sonar is, and how well it works, and how great your work flow will be now. Then you get Sonar, for example X1, and some of the very things they showed in their video's were broken. Flat out not working. But yet, we keep being led to believe that Sonar is being shipped as advertised and works great.
I know some people had huge issues with X1 but I wasn't one of them. Work flow has a big impact on if bugs are found or not. Take the 'infamous' snap bug in X1. If you worked in a certain way you would never see that bug at all, as unlikely as that may seem to those that did. If you don't believe me re-install the original X1 pre all patches and I'll give you the workflow steps that if you always worked that way would (and did) completely hide it. FWIW X2 has actually crashed on me far more than X1 ever did, mainly because of a bug while browsing loops, so for me X2 is a worse release than X1 but I appreciate that for a large proportion of users the opposite is true. Just isn't for me. I still maintain anyone that has been using the software and complaining almost constantly about it for the last 4 or 5 versions and still carries on buying it must be crazy or has a completely different outlook on life to me.
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Re:Am I the only sane one?
2012/11/19 14:22:04
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Oh yeah... I forgot about a consistent crashing issue I've had with X2. When I bought my M-Audio keyboard controller and started browsing Dim Pro patches it crashed without fail every dozen or so sounds I loaded. Some folks mentioned that it's a Dim Pro issue but that would be something I hope gets fixed. It would make some terrible noises before crashing too like super loud crackling to the point I'm concerned about my monitors when it happens. That particular crash scenario required a restart of Sonar. I hope it is limited to browsing and won't pull that stuff when I trying to record. That would be an example of where I'd get a little upset.
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Re:Am I the only sane one?
2012/11/19 14:23:45
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and if Sonar ever became unusable my low cost escape plan is Reaper. If I happened to have some cash laying around I'd probably switch to Cubase.
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Re:Am I the only sane one?
2012/11/19 14:29:07
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Karl I had the same experience with X1 as you did. People are still questioning me about it. As if I was not telling the truth. I don't know why some had such a bad time with X1 when it first came out but still will maintain much of it was due to the change in the GUI and how things got done. Some of that got mixed up with bugs to them and no matter how much we say it was a good release they will never see it. I can say this on Vista X1 was solid from day one. X2, not so much. On Windows 8 X2 seems as solid as X1 to me.
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Re:Am I the only sane one?
2012/11/19 14:41:31
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"I still maintain anyone that has been using the software and complaining almost constantly about it for the last 4 or 5 versions and still carries on buying it must be crazy or has a completely different outlook on life to me. "
The real crazy guys are the ones who never bought or used X1 and still complain about it, years later, on a daily basis.
X1 for me was a more solid first release than X2. Once the first X2 patch came out it has been about equal to X1d with regards to stability (for me).
A little bit into the X1 cycle I was struck by the "when control bar showing, incredibly slow bounce to track bug". What I did was hide the Control Bar when I wanted to bounce. No big deal but a lot of guys on this forum couldn't have handled it. Remember that "double click beside the pro channel presets" to crash Sonar bug? That didn't bother me either- I just didn't double click the PC header bar.
It amazes me that some of the people on this forum get anything done at all in their lives and then I think well maybe they don't.
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Re:I think Freddie is suffering from LCCS.
2012/11/19 15:21:49
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Beepster
I don't mind people airing their grievances on the forum but Freddie man... it seems all you do is freak out in ridiculously large fonts. +1.. I have a hard time wondering where folks heads are at... We know the bakers are working on an X2a patch...and it will be ready when its ready.. ..and i dont see what possible connection that engineering work has on the sales folks promoting X2...
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Re:I think Freddie is suffering from LCCS.
2012/11/19 15:38:09
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Keep in mind Freddie is one of kind. A really nice guy that has never attacked anyone. He has been attacked and not responded. He has been attacked because he is an enthusiastic supporter of CW and Sonar. Also he is not a native English speaker.
We would do well to have more Freddies here.
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Re:I think Freddie is suffering from LCCS.
2012/11/19 15:50:37
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Purrrfect Audio DAW here. Wow!...
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Re:I think Freddie is suffering from LCCS.
2012/11/19 15:55:56
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Well... he was being pretty harsh towards the Bakers but yeah, I haven't seen him give any other forum members a hard time. My comments weren't meant to attack but to offer maybe a different approach that might keep these threads a little calmer and make his insights more useful for everyone. I really have been trying to avoid it so as not to rock the boat but it seems he took it well and as it was intended. He does indeed seem like a decent fellow. Cheers.
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Re:Am I the only sane one?
2012/11/19 16:38:09
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I have definitely woken up in an alternate universe this morning. Why on earth would a customer be loyal?
I couldn't agree more. It baffles me why certain people come on here year after year complaining about Sonar.
Really? The two of you have never heard the term customer loyalty? Huh. I held the top spot in the Fortune 500 company I used to work for, for customer loyalty, 5 years in a row. Then I left, or I still would have hold of the title, and it's part of your review now at that company. They called it 'Customer Retention', but it's the same thing. They kept track of how many customers came back to renew their maintenance contracts, and purchase new equipment from our company. It was a sales and service based company, and service 100% directly effected whether or not existing customers stayed loyal to you. You could, and we did on several occasions, give someone an office full of equipment for free, and because the service sucked ... they refused to take it. We lost people who had been with us for 10 years and more because a technician went in there and in 2 months pissed them off so much they went with someone else.
The thing with Cakewalk is, we are never told something is buggy. We see all these cutsie video's by these guys that show how awesome the next version of Sonar is, and how well it works, and how great your work flow will be now. Then you get Sonar, for example X1, and some of the very things they showed in their video's were broken. Flat out not working. But yet, we keep being led to believe that Sonar is being shipped as advertised and works great.
I have a Ford Focus, and love it. When I next buy a car, I will try another one. If I buy a new model and it's terrible, I will think twice about getting another. I would not keep trying them and complaining on some Ford Focus forum, I'd just buy a different car.
Yeah, well, we're not talking about something with moving and mechanical parts that wear out. We're talking about a software tool that does a very specific job that hasn't done what it was advertised to do in quite some time.
I, like many others, found Sonar X1 stable, especially X1d, which was rock solid FOR ME. When X2 came out, I bought it because I'd been so happy with X1. I didn't initially use it for paying work, as new software is often buggy. After the quick fix, X2 became very stable for me.
So, you're not loyal, but you're ok going in to a purchase that only has a 12 month life cycle, knowing it's going to be broken, and hope and pray they get some of the bugs fixed before they discontinue it's life cycle and force you to buy the next upgrade? And you keep doing this over and over? Call me crazy, but that sounds like Customer Loyalty to me. Y? N?
If X1 had been bad for me, I wouldn't have updated, and would be looking elsewhere.
I see you joined in 2011, so I don't know how much time you've had with Sonar products ... but if you had many years in to learning the software like some of us, you'd have a better understanding of what we're talking about I think. Or not. I don't know. Does it really matter?
@Freddie: Sucks to be on this side of the fence doesn't it?
1: Thank you for the lesson in "Customer Loyalty", I was aware of its meaning, but thank you anyway. You talk about your customers returning in your old job because they were getting excellent service. If your service was bad, they didn't return. I think you (probably deliberately) misunderstood Karl's post. He explains it to you a few posts above this. 2: The car thing was an analogy, and analogies do not transfer 100 per cent. Sonar doesn't run on petrol or have a horn, either, but the central point still holds true - you only remain "loyal" to a company if you get good service/products. I'm sorry if I did not state this simply enough for you. 3: I don't remember saying anything of the sort about knowingly buying buggy software. I think you are getting more confused at this point. I said that I wouldn't use any software (or hardware, for that matter) for work until I had tested it. That's common sense and good business practise. Crazy was not the word I had in mind, no. 4: I've been using Sonar since Sonar 6, and have invested much time in learning, and re-learning it. However, if it were running terribly for me, I would still move on and learn another. I need it to be working, and for me it is. Thank you for your comments. If you're unclear about anything else, feel free to ask.
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Re:Numerous problems reported with X2, 2-3 month later still no real update?
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GlennP
Excuse me Freddie H but you are being extremely rude and self-centred!
Freddie I was joking! I omitted to put “LOL” after statement
Correction… Excuse me FreddieH but you are being extremely rude and self-centred! LOL
I was mealy trying to point out that bakers should fix longstanding issues that go further back then X2 FIRST!
Your perception of X2 and cakewalk in my opinion is 100% correct
twigman
hahaha, thanks for that and yes! it helps.
I’ve just enrolled in an online remedial spelling course, including urban slang.
jb101
I have a Ford Focus, and love it. When I next buy a car, I will try another one. If I buy a new model and it's terrible, I will think twice about getting another. I would not keep trying them and complaining on some Ford Focus forum, I'd just buy a different car.
How true… but you would not have a time consuming learning curve adjusting to your new vauxhall corsa, you would hop in and simply drive off.
Sonar Producer X2 + 8.5.3, HP pavilion dv6 3031TX Win7 home premium 64-bit, Edirol UA-55, Edirol UA-25, Edirol PCR-500, 2 Behringer FCB1010, Rode NT1A, KRK Rokit 8 Monitors, PODxt, AKG520 Cans, too many guitars to list and a Dog "Lets complicate things a little for the sake of simplicity"
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Re:Numerous problems reported with X2, 2-3 month later still no real update?
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What is it with people on here and analogies?
I won't use one again. They seem to confuse people.
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GlennP
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Jb101 just to clarify something here, I posted 56 before I read 55 OK?
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Re:Numerous problems reported with X2, 2-3 month later still no real update?
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The way I look at it is:
I always see the release of the new Sonar version as between 3 to 6 month after its official release.
So, since version 5, I always upgrade, but don't install it until at least a patch or 2 later.
Since I have fully accepted this way of upgraded Sonar, it really doesn't bother me.
It means the version I purchase as pretty much the same "life span", it is just deferred from its official release date.
Of course, this means relying on all the early adopter to do all the hard work of working out what is a bug and what is not and telling Cakewalk to fix it. This way, there is no frustration at my end. The first version of X1 I installed was X1d, and if I need to wait for the d patch of Sonar2, then so be it.
I can't see how it stops me working on my current projects.. you just have to wait a bit for the new toys, that's all.
I'm very grateful for those who do install Sonar early and do all the testing / bug reporting, as I am well aware that if everybody was doing what I do, then the system would not work.
So, while I'm not using sonar 2 yet (purchased the upgrade on release date), I really enjoy checking in the forum and reading how it is all evolving.
So, thanks again to all the users who push Cakewalk to fix things.
As for "customer loyalty", I am essentially lazy. I prefer to play guitar than learn a new software. Now I got the hang of the "X serie", I don't see the point of learning something else from scratch again, unless I became extremely unhappy with Sonar products, which is highly unlikely.
So, I basically stick to what I know.. I'm sure there are plenty like me.
I think overall Cakewalk do a good job, they do take on board what's going on in here, they just don't seem to test new versions long enough. If I were them, I'll pick the 3 or 4 most "winging" people in here, and make them test the new software until they found all the bugs. Maybe their Beta testers are too nice.
In any case, Sonar does the job for me, in fact I do think it is GREAT in many aspects.
my 2 cents..
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GlennP
Jb101 just to clarify something here, I posted 56 before I read 55 OK?
No, I'm sorry. Perhaps I could have used a better analogy. Mind you, as to jumping in a Corsa and just driving away, you should have seen me in my wife's car today, angrily washing my rear window at the car that pulled out in front of me, instead of flashing my headlights..
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