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2017/12/17 21:08:37 (permalink)

OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan

I feel the time for mourning has past. Be it Noel or somebody else, we deserve to know the way forward. If the party's truly over we should be getting info on how we can secure our investment.
 
If any of the mods can still contact Cakewalk I encourage them to do so. We need license activation codes and this continued silence is BS. Perhaps it's time for anger instead of pity. My work space is full of orphaned software and hardware that says Cakewalk on it. I feel it's time to wrap it up.
 
What do you think?

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/17 21:18:30 (permalink)
Last I heard was that the plan is when/if the servers go down (which is not imminent in any way... supposedly and I believe 'em) that all registered users will receive a reg code they can use for new installs without having to access the servers.
 
I'm fine with that.
 
In the meantime though I need to get off my arse and download all the updates since Manchester... which I am STILL on because it's been working fine for what I've been doing.
 
That's goan be a big download. lulz
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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/17 21:34:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2017/12/17 23:24:07
Why was this moved to the coffee house? I believe this was a legitimate SONAR question. It may be the only legitimate SONAR question left.
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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/17 21:52:41 (permalink)
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Why was this moved to the coffee house? I believe this was a legitimate SONAR question. It may be the only legitimate SONAR question left.


 
I agree it should not have been moved, since the description of the Sonar forum is "Discussion focused on the use of SONAR software." If talking about the activation codes that we'll eventually need to launch the program doesn't fall under that description then I don't know what does. It should be moved back. 

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/17 21:55:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby kzmaier 2017/12/18 21:34:00
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Last I heard was that the plan is when/if the servers go down (which is not imminent in any way... supposedly and I believe 'em) that all registered users will receive a reg code they can use for new installs without having to access the servers.
 
I'm fine with that.
 
In the meantime though I need to get off my arse and download all the updates since Manchester... which I am STILL on because it's been working fine for what I've been doing.
 
That's goan be a big download. lulz




I think the reason why people are worried is that by the time the servers eventually go down, we have no guarantee that there will even be anyone around to give us those activation codes. Who knows what card Gibson is going to play next. Can we really trust them to do the right thing? Giving us the codes now would be insurance against that eventuality. 
 
Having said that, it could be that the reason why Cakewalk doesn't want to give us the codes now is because they are still holding out for a solution to keep Sonar going. 

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/17 22:10:20 (permalink)
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Having said that, it could be that the reason why Cakewalk doesn't want to give us the codes now is because they are still holding out for a solution to keep Sonar going. 




Yeah. Thing is this is all still rather fresh. I'm sure something is going on in the background that just can't be discussed yet.
 
It's also why haven't abandoned this place yet (even though I've been pretty useless lately aside from maybe some giggles).
 
Ain't over...
 
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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/17 22:40:50 (permalink)
I am concerned myself. I understand Cakewalk needs time to put together a plan but its been almost 4 weeks now.
This is BS.
 

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/17 22:45:27 (permalink)
Return sonar!!! The DAW has a  right to live!
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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/17 22:50:12 (permalink)
Oh, ya. I'm pretty verklemmt about the entire matter as well and think it is REALLY crummy (and possibly calculated by Gibson) timing. Right at the holidays.
 
That's cold, man.
 
However I honestly think there are certain Bakers who give enough of a crap to make sure we can at least use SONAR as a legacy product.
 
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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/17 22:53:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Rimshot 2017/12/19 01:40:23
My initial plan was to use SONAR until it doesn't work anymore.
 
My new plan has quickly become use SONAR until I can get all my projects moved over to Reaper, then leave SONAR on the shelf as a nostalgic conversation piece.
 
That's the only way I'll feel comfortable at this point.

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/17 22:55:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FCCfirstclass 2017/12/18 16:28:33
I highly suspect this was moved because Gibson is dictating everything and no one at CW can answer this. They are probably reeling because they didn't realize the aftershock of this decision, even among non-SONAR users. It will give everyone insight on what it means to do business with Gibson, including those who have the ability to bail them out. Karma is a wonderful thing.

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/17 22:56:53 (permalink)
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...its been almost 4 weeks now.
 




In fact it was 4 weeks this past Friday; exactly 30 days today.

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/17 23:36:01 (permalink)
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Why was this moved to the coffee house? I believe this was a legitimate SONAR question. It may be the only legitimate SONAR question left.




I think at this stage of the endgame, it might be a good idea for the host that moves these kind of threads to at least let us know why.
 
The forum rules seem to have changed a little so at least if we were informed where we were supposed to post specific topics that might help a little.
 
Mind you, moving threads like this away from the SONAR forum seems to me a bit like sweeping the problem under the carpet. Paying customers are rightly concerned, and to have their concerns scuttled away by other paying customers just doesn't sit right with me. This shouldn't be the time for hosts to start pulling rank on their peers.
 
At least give us a little confidence in your actions by letting us know that you are moving these threads under instructions from either a Cakewalk or a Gibson employee.

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 00:52:54 (permalink)
I didn't move this one, so no flaming me for it please.
 
The forum rules haven't changed, just the use the forum is being put to.
There's a lot of very understandable complaining, but the primary function of the forum (while Sonar is still being used) should remain as a place for those that require help with Sonar and related issues.
 
During the first few days post-announcement, the Sonar forum quickly filled with headless chicken posts (again, understandably) at which point a Cakewalk employee stepped in and moved them.  He was very heavy handed and indiscriminant.  
We are simply doing what we've done for the past 3 years and moping the floors, cleaning the tables and tidying the empty glasses.  If that means moving threads that have been answered over and over to keep the forum clear for help requests, then they'll be moved.

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 01:11:44 (permalink)
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I highly suspect this was moved because Gibson is dictating everything and no one at CW can answer this. They are probably reeling because they didn't realize the aftershock of this decision, even among non-SONAR users. It will give everyone insight on what it means to do business with Gibson, including those who have the ability to bail them out. Karma is a wonderful thing.


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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 02:47:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2017/12/18 08:19:41
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 If that means moving threads that have been answered over and over to keep the forum clear for help requests, then they'll be moved.



Which has nothing to do with this thread. As others have pointed out, it is really the only question of universal concern and is far from answered. You can't really write something fundamentally wrong and inflammatory and expect not to be flamed in return, lest this place start to sound like a Whitehouse press briefing:)
 

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 03:08:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2017/12/18 08:19:33
Once again, the stated purpose of the Sonar forum is "Discussion focused on the use of SONAR software." Surely the installation and activation of the software falls under that umbrella. 

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 04:09:17 (permalink)
Are you 'once againing' me James?  I agree wholeheartedly :)

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 05:05:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2017/12/18 08:19:28
I don't want to sound cold but this is an issue. I could understand hearing nothing for a week. But then it gets to be the holidays and people think we'll hear something after the holidays. Then it's maybe the new year, and so on. When my father died I got 3 days off work for bereavement.
 
The point is, as a current user and lifetime member, I'd like an update from somebody with facts, not opinions and or theories. It's time, we deserve some information. This should be front and centre along with the announcement, so people will know we're waiting.

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 06:04:07 (permalink)
if the Cakewalk team knew the plan I think they'd tell us. But if it's true Gibson shut them down abruptly, without warning, I doubt they know what is going on even now
 
can't believe such a cool thing is being killed off- It's like the freaking delorean! :)
 
I had a look at noel's twitter account just now to see if there is anything new and he has actually just changed his background picture to some cakewalk sonar branded drumsticks so he hasn't discarded sonar totally from his life :)

 
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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 06:24:36 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tenfoot 2017/12/18 09:02:12
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Are you 'once againing' me James?  I agree wholeheartedly :)




LOL no not you, just reiterating my opinion in general. 

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 06:26:10 (permalink)
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if the Cakewalk team knew the plan I think they'd tell us. But if it's true Gibson shut them down abruptly, without warning, I doubt they know what is going on even now
 
can't believe such a cool thing is being killed off- It's like the freaking delorean! :)
 
I had a look at noel's twitter account just now to see if there is anything new and he has actually just changed his background picture to some cakewalk sonar branded drumsticks so he hasn't discarded sonar totally from his life :)




That's funny, I checked Noel's Twitter earlier too. And I think you'll find those are Cakewalk branded chopsticks....

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 06:41:05 (permalink)
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if the Cakewalk team knew the plan I think they'd tell us. But if it's true Gibson shut them down abruptly, without warning, I doubt they know what is going on even now
 
can't believe such a cool thing is being killed off- It's like the freaking delorean! :)
 
I had a look at noel's twitter account just now to see if there is anything new and he has actually just changed his background picture to some cakewalk sonar branded drumsticks so he hasn't discarded sonar totally from his life :)




That's funny, I checked Noel's Twitter earlier too. And I think you'll find those are Cakewalk branded chopsticks....




My bad :) I just assumed Roland must have hooked him up with some nice v-drums and some branded sticks! but think.... a man who obsessively inscribes his chopsticks with sonar mottos isn't going to let a little thing like Gibson shuttering the company let the DAW die (I hope against hope)

 
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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 08:35:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/12/18 14:06:38
Noel's profile shows he logged in here yesterday. So yes, it's a shame this got moved down here, he may have seen it 'upstairs' and given us an update.

 
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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 13:20:09 (permalink)
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My initial plan was to use SONAR until it doesn't work anymore.
 
My new plan has quickly become use SONAR until I can get all my projects moved over to Reaper, then leave SONAR on the shelf as a nostalgic conversation piece.
 
That's the only way I'll feel comfortable at this point.


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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 13:49:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2017/12/18 14:05:12
Seeing how this Sonar question hasn't been answered and it pertains to all of us, why not move it back up to the Sonar forums?
 
  

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 16:56:11 (permalink)

Gibson/ Cakewalk Announcement FAQ

Last updated on 12/1/2017
What is happening to Cakewalk?
As of November 17, 2017, Gibson Brands, Inc, has officially ceased new product development of all Cakewalk branded software. A note from our CTO (with formal announcement from Gibson) can be found at the following link: https://www.cakewalk.com/announcement 
 
What happens to my account?
At this time, our servers and website will remain active. You will be able to utilize your software without interruption, and will have access to your account and products as normal. 
 
But what if the servers do go down?
If or when the servers are taken down, we will make sure you have a way to authorize your products without using any of our current online authorization steps. We're working on a mechanism for if this does occur, to ensure our users will not lose functionality moving forward. 
 
What type of support should we expect moving forward?
Technical support is available on a limited basis for members with an active SONAR membership. We encourage legacy users to utilize our Knowledge Base and User Forum for help with older versions. 
 
Will any Cakewalk staff remain active in the forum or other web resources?
Many of the former Cakewalk staff members are everyday SONAR users. You may see some familiar names on our forum, as well as other places that may include Cakewalk content. 
 
I purchased SONAR within the last year, what happens with updates?
If you have purchased within the last year, you own the product outright. We will no longer be able to offer monthly updates, but you will still be able to utilize the version of SONAR you own. 
 
What about monthly payment plans?
We have officially closed our web store, and any monthly payment plans will be automatically discontinued. If you started a monthly plan within the last year, your statement will reflect either Cleverbridge or Digital River as the merchant. If you have trouble finding this information, or have any outstanding payment questions, please contact Cakewalk support. If you are on a rent-to-own plan and not have made 12 payments we have unlocked authorization so you can continue to use SONAR without interruption. 
 
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Refund policies may vary depending on the point of sale. If you purchased from an online dealer or brick and mortar store, most will note that all software is non-refundable. This is due to a host of issues regarding registration retrieval, third party royalties, etc. Unfortunately in these cases, we cannot assist in providing a refund on behalf of those retailers. Our web store providers offer a 30 day refund policy. Please contact our support staff with your original order number, email address, and date of purchase for assistance with purchases made within 30 days.
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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 17:31:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby michaelhanson 2017/12/18 18:31:41
what do I think?
 
They've answered all they're going to and there's no reason to expect anything else from them.  don't expect a buyout or a release of code because they've already told us that the cake brand is dead and they aren't going to put any more effort into it.
 
I think it's over.  the fat lady has sang.  
 
you can use what you have until it doesn't work any more or you can move on.  I don't see any other options.
 
that's what I think.
 

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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 17:43:53 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Beagle 2017/12/19 00:11:50
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what do I think?
 
They've answered all they're going to and there's no reason to expect anything else from them.  don't expect a buyout or a release of code because they've already told us that the cake brand is dead and they aren't going to put any more effort into it.
 
I think it's over.  the fat lady has sang.  
 
you can use what you have until it doesn't work any more or you can move on.  I don't see any other options.
 
that's what I think.
 




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Re: OK Cakewalk, time to hear your plan 2017/12/18 17:51:35 (permalink)
I know nothing, first time I saw this thread it was here in the CH.

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