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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 11:37:27
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Alright. I put away my cranky hat.
Ah delicious tea. You complete me.
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 11:38:33
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 Two year old French Dick dug up and dumped here....who needs dope? Get high and watch the show. (cartoons lol)
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slartabartfast
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 11:41:12
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a moderator moved it to the Coffee House. But why??? The OP had a valid point when he posted to the main Sonar forum. That forum is nominally a "support" forum designed to let users share experiences problems and solutions. Putting it in the coffee house is like having the Pope open for George Carlin.
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 11:42:10
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Beagle
It's unbelievably entertaining to watch you guys get upset and riled up over a post someone made 2 years ago and hasn't been back since!
wow!
and the OP is longggg goneeeee
Green Acres is the place to be I dont twitter, facebook, snapchat, instagram,linkedin,tumble,pinterest,flick, blah blah,lets have an old fashioned conversation!
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 11:42:47
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heheheheheheehaaahaahahaahahaahhaaaaaaaaaaaa awwww hehe
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Beagle
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 11:45:09
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slartabartfast
a moderator moved it to the Coffee House.
But why???
The OP had a valid point when he posted to the main Sonar forum. That forum is nominally a "support" forum designed to let users share experiences problems and solutions. Putting it in the coffee house is like having the Pope open for George Carlin.
I think you'd have to ask the mod who moved it why it was moved. I am not he. regardless of that, I question the "validity" of the point since the OP was made nearly two years ago. the complaint he was making was not about the current posters. does it mean it's a valid complaint today? maybe, but just because it was valid 2 years ago does not automatically mean it's valid today.
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FastBikerBoy
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 11:49:54
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Wasn't the Sonar X1 forum a battlefield two years ago? Fortunately it has now returned to a support forum mostly.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 11:54:33
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I find it ironic that some of the more "insulted" members weren't even members of the forum when the OP made the post.
I agree with the OP.
I think the personal insults such as we bear witness to in this thread should be moderated and discouraged.
It seems to me that it's pretty easy to see who is here to be helpful and who is here to find another argument to excite their passions.
In my opinion the OP was made in an effort to be helpful and many posters who responded demonstrated just how ugly being un-helpful can be.
I am incapable of understanding why people enjoy wallowing in disagreement, so I no longer attempt to understand. I simply bear witness to the fact that it is quite obvious that some people are energized by the opportunity.
I wish the forum software "block" function would hide all aspects of a post and not just the content. That way I could live and let live and simply be unaware of the well defined patterns of post and rebuttal that all the double green lines I see in most threads have come to represent.
I also think it's excessively lame to moderate a thread by simply moving it rather than offering specific behavior modification suggestions to the posters who have chosen to make personal insults towards the OP and the OP's name. I think that sort of policy of hands off moderation reflects poorly on Cakewalk and that Cakewalk would do well to foster a more collegial atmosphere representative of the many interests of their end user clientele.
regards,
mike
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spacealf
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 11:58:17
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Well, I am not a forum. And whatever I do it probably will be wrong. (ask my ex-wife). Although some day, it may be international, maybe???
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bayoubill
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:02:35
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WHAT? THIS IS perposterous! Is not the name of This "THE COFFEE HOUSE"? Are we here to work, be restricted,C ensored, Speak of only "OFFICIALLY APPROVED" thoughts? Who would make the guidelines for such? The idea of this particular forum was for open topics and general conversation. Am I mistaken? Am at the wrong forum? This is supposed to be a fun place!  now i Am depressed and it's didap's fault 
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Beepster
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:06:30
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Welp. Guess I managed to offend some folks. Apologies. Sometimes the punk still slips out.
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bayoubill
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:06:41
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OK OK I apologize for sayin it was all didap's fault 
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Beagle
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:06:53
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mike_mccue
I also think it's excessively lame to moderate a thread by simply moving it rather than offering specific behavior modification suggestions to the posters who have chosen to make personal insults towards the OP and the OP's name. I think that sort of policy of hands off moderation reflects poorly on Cakewalk and that Cakewalk would do well to foster a more collegial atmosphere representative of the many interests of their end user clientele.
regards,
mike
I don't always agree with you, Mike, and you may even consider me one of the ones who likes to argue without reason (though I don't think I am). but this paragraph here I've quoted from you I completely agree with 100% and applaud you for saying it.
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Beagle
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:08:52
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Beepster
Welp. Guess I managed to offend some folks. Apologies. Sometimes the punk still slips out.
for the record you did not offend me. I just found the whole situation humorous.
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bayoubill
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:12:42
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I've decided to make some more becan and coffee. Then get back to work in my wonderful Sonar X-2 Producer thingy
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FastBikerBoy
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:15:21
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I'm offended, I think...... I'm waiting to be told. 
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:15:37
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Can I go home yet or is there more fun to come?
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bayoubill
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:15:52
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Btw, I think Bapu (Ed) has been kidnapped by aliens! I haven't seen him around for awhile. Strange
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Bub 
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:16:01
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FastBikerBoy
Wasn't the Sonar X1 forum a battlefield two years ago? Fortunately it has now returned to a support forum mostly.
The way I remember it was, a lot of people were having problems with "DAW 2.0" and there was almost 100% denial on Cakewalks part that was fueled by a handful of users that insisted everything was fine and downplayed some real problems. There are certain people here who get their rocks off by playing the Devil's advocate, and saying the opposite of what logic dictates, just to dig at an open wound. Since I blocked them, I haven't had any problems here at all.
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Starise
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:19:56
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I wouldn't judge all french people based on one guys take of the situation.
As I have found out the hard way, discussing anything on any kind of serious level isn't always the best thing in here and thats ok I needed to learn that little tidbit. It is frustrating to a person if they come here to actually get into some kind of deep discussion it probably won't happen. I'm not complaining. It is what it is and it's fun most of the time.
Most forums have a place like the coffee house to talk about almost anything. A relaxed atmosphere. My threshold for goofiness can sometimes wear thin but I am hypocritical if I say I haven't been the boring unfunny clown at times. Being unfunny is sometimes better than being a miserable prick in my book....but then that's my book and maybe yours is written differently.
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yorolpal
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:25:00
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This thread smells funny....like stinky old cheese.
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craigb
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:25:57
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Time for all of you to head over to Beyond My DAW!
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FastBikerBoy
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:29:22
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Bub
FastBikerBoy
Wasn't the Sonar X1 forum a battlefield two years ago? Fortunately it has now returned to a support forum mostly.
The way I remember it was, a lot of people were having problems with "DAW 2.0" and there was almost 100% denial on Cakewalks part that was fueled by a handful of users that insisted everything was fine and downplayed some real problems.
There are certain people here who get their rocks off by playing the Devil's advocate, and saying the opposite of what logic dictates, just to dig at an open wound.
Since I blocked them, I haven't had any problems here at all.
It was said that I was in denial by some. However I can quite safely say that X1 was more stable for me than X2 is. Which just goes to show that on each individual's system some software works better than others. I'm not saying X2 is unstable by the way, it only crashes sometimes when browsing audio loops which I've reported but X1 just didn't crash for me. I think a lot of the problem is/was that some just find it impossible to believe that others could possibly be experiencing something completely different to their own experience. I so far haven't told anyone that finds X2 more stable than X1 that they are lying. That however happened regularly to me when I claimed X1 was more stable than 8.5 for me, which it was. That's life I guess.
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Bub
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:29:54
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yorolpal
This thread smells funny....like stinky old cheese.
That's me ... I just had a breakfast burrito and holiday pie at McDonald's. Has anyone tried that holiday pie yet? OMG.
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Bub
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:33:26
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FastBikerBoy
Bub
FastBikerBoy
Wasn't the Sonar X1 forum a battlefield two years ago? Fortunately it has now returned to a support forum mostly.
The way I remember it was, a lot of people were having problems with "DAW 2.0" and there was almost 100% denial on Cakewalks part that was fueled by a handful of users that insisted everything was fine and downplayed some real problems.
There are certain people here who get their rocks off by playing the Devil's advocate, and saying the opposite of what logic dictates, just to dig at an open wound.
Since I blocked them, I haven't had any problems here at all.
It was said that I was in denial by some. However I can quite safely say that X1 was more stable for me than X2 is. Which just goes to show that on each individual's system some software works better than others.
I'm not saying X2 is unstable by the way, it only crashes sometimes when browsing audio loops which I've reported but X1 just didn't crash for me. I think a lot of the problem is/was that some just find it impossible to believe that others could possibly be experiencing something completely different to their own experience.
I so far haven't told anyone that finds X2 more stable than X1 that they are lying. That however happened regularly to me when I claimed X1 was more stable than 8.5 for me, which it was.
That's life I guess.
I wasn't thinking of you when I wrote that FBB. I've always liked you, yeah, we've had discussions, but nothing serious to where I wouldn't want to talk to you again. Like I said, the people that rubbed me the wrong way are blocked now, and you obviously aren't blocked, are you? :-) I have to go pick up a cord of firewood and bring home and stack ... have to go. Have a good day FBB ... and everyone else. Bub.
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daryl1968
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:39:01
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Beepster - I am still in contact with the OP and he sent this message
' I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper'
Thank you
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daryl1968
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:48:04
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daryl1968
Beepster - I am still in contact with the OP and he sent this message
' I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper'
Thank you
oh, and he added 'No, now go away or I shall taunt you a second time. '
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Beepster
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 12:51:01
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Pfft. I WISH I could get a sweet gig like that. You get all the leftover slop.
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Rain
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 13:20:59
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CJaysMusic
Is it me or do the French have NO scene of humor
That's kind of like assuming that all Americans are just like the cast of Jersey Shore. And of course, some of them are indeed just like that. People are people, everywhere. French humor is hilarious if you ask me, but the language barrier makes it difficult to appreciate I suppose. But then again, anyone who speaks both languages and watches the American remake of a French movie, like Dinner of Schmucks, will quickly notice that the humor is entirely different. (In this specific case, that's being polite. ;) That being said, the OP obviously wasn't in humor mode when he posted that one. I suppose he was expecting something a bit more formal in terms of community support.
post edited by Rain - 2012/11/09 13:23:04
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FastBikerBoy
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Re:OPEN LETTER TO FORUM MEMBERS
2012/11/09 13:29:46
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Bub
FastBikerBoy
Bub
FastBikerBoy
Wasn't the Sonar X1 forum a battlefield two years ago? Fortunately it has now returned to a support forum mostly.
The way I remember it was, a lot of people were having problems with "DAW 2.0" and there was almost 100% denial on Cakewalks part that was fueled by a handful of users that insisted everything was fine and downplayed some real problems.
There are certain people here who get their rocks off by playing the Devil's advocate, and saying the opposite of what logic dictates, just to dig at an open wound.
Since I blocked them, I haven't had any problems here at all.
It was said that I was in denial by some. However I can quite safely say that X1 was more stable for me than X2 is. Which just goes to show that on each individual's system some software works better than others.
I'm not saying X2 is unstable by the way, it only crashes sometimes when browsing audio loops which I've reported but X1 just didn't crash for me. I think a lot of the problem is/was that some just find it impossible to believe that others could possibly be experiencing something completely different to their own experience.
I so far haven't told anyone that finds X2 more stable than X1 that they are lying. That however happened regularly to me when I claimed X1 was more stable than 8.5 for me, which it was.
That's life I guess.
I wasn't thinking of you when I wrote that FBB. I've always liked you, yeah, we've had discussions, but nothing serious to where I wouldn't want to talk to you again. Like I said, the people that rubbed me the wrong way are blocked now, and you obviously aren't blocked, are you? :-)
I have to go pick up a cord of firewood and bring home and stack ... have to go.
Have a good day FBB ... and everyone else.
Bub.
I'd sussed that you didn't have me blocked but just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean that everyone isn't out to get me...... I was really just trying to make the point that there are so many different experiences with the same program that one persons view can be right while at the same time a completely different experience for a different user can also be right, it's all perspective. A little tolerance and understanding helps a lot. You have a good day to and stay safe if you are any where near the storms that seem to be battering the US just lately.
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