Offset Mesure One

Can we have empty space before the start of measure 1
 
Or as some call it, negative measures.

i remember Cubase had it when i used in years ago... it helps eliminate the 'sometimes glitch' on the opening note and is nice when you bounce your final mix to have some space in front without adding it elsewhere.

There have been several variations on this topic, i.e. timeline ruler offset, discussed over the years. Some people want the timeline to start from zero, a negative number or some other offset, with the option to split it into different sections. I came up with a suggestion that (I hope) covers all of the different scenarios:

Keep the existing timeline ruler as it stands, but provide the option of displaying a second ruler, one that is customizable. The user can set the start of this ruler to coinside with the start of the song and to count from 1 or 0 or whatever, according to preference. The ruler can also be divided up as required by the user to represent different sections of the song, e.g. intro, verses, choruses, bridges or whatever. Each section can be assigned a colour and a starting number which could be 1 or 0 or some offset. The sections can also be assigned a name or descriptive piece of text. When zoomed out, the different sections of the song will be obvious by the colours. When zoomed in, you can see at a glance exactly which section of the song you are in and how many bars into the section.

+1 vote from me on this feature request.

I know that this is going to show how little I understand this issue, but why do we need this?  What difference does it make (other than when printing out the staff view) if I start on 'measure' one or on 'measure' fifteen?  If the only issue is how the staff view prints out, couldn't this be addressed by just setting a start point to be track one in staff view to adjust how it is printed?
 
Sorry for being slow, but I just don't comprehend what this would accomplish.
 
Glen

I would use this feature, particularly implemented similar to how Kev999 suggests, on every single song I record. Starting the actual song at a measure called measure 1 and seeing the verses, choruses, bridges, intros, codas etc. colour-coded and distinguishable at a glance would be great and very much appreciated.
 
It would really make my work much easier and much less like work! :)

Hasn't this feature request been logged before?
Cheers..

Keep the existing timeline ruler as it stands, but provide the option of displaying a second ruler, one that is customizable. The user can set the start of this ruler to coinside with the start of the song and to count from 1 or 0 or whatever, according to preference. The ruler can also be divided up as required by the user to represent different sections of the song, e.g. intro, verses, choruses, bridges or whatever. Each section can be assigned a colour and a starting number which could be 1 or 0 or some offset. The sections can also be assigned a name or descriptive piece of text. When zoomed out, the different sections of the song will be obvious by the colours. When zoomed in, you can see at a glance exactly which section of the song you are in and how many bars into the section.
 
YES, great idea Kev!

Huh. I didn't see the other feature request. Feel free to delete this one, Mods. (I've been on holiday)

one of the first feature requests made

I'm sure there was a video from FastBikerBoy, where he had found this option within Audio snap, the use of negative measures. He released a video correcting an earlier one, when he found an  easier way. And proclaimed that he wasn't aware that this feature existed.  Just tried searching, but cannot find it. He was  aligning a live preform ace to the time grid

I think this would be a great feature too.

It would be good to be able to set first beat where ever, and have it referenced when bouncing to tracks/clips.
 
Currently I start all projects at measure 5 to have what is requested
This means:
 four measures are available for pre-roll, count-in, and relaxing into the click
 clips can be moved past zero
 room for new intro material
 can work on tempos
 and so on
 
After the mixing bit, I trim the clip, apply trimming, move to zero, and bounce to clips.
 
And, Robert's my father's brother.
 
Being able to move the first beat would be real useful.
 
 
 
 
 
 

Tom Riggs
Kamikaze that link took me to a Nina Simone video.
 
 

Sorry about that, I've edited the link, but here it is too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weIZy_ibH5c
 
Looking forward to that Nina Simone film though

Good one.   I always make the first bar longer (6/4 if my piece is in 4/4), but that is a little extra time for every single project ..