rbowser

HumbleNoise




Randy I assume you meant to write push "1"?

Hi - No, I didn't mean to write "push 1"--The first Screenset is what's already up when you open X1.  No need to push 1 - I said Push 2 at the point where I'm opening the second Screenset so I can edit it.   And there's no need to do any special saving - Screensets are automatically saved as you re-arrange them.  You just don't want to touch your sreens again before saving the Template, because whatever was last displayed is what will be saved.

And raising hand to agree that you can't save the Template without tracks in it.  That does scramble the Screensets up.  If that's a bug or not, I don't know.  I just saved the default single Audio track and single MIDI track, and with Track Inspector hid them from view.

Randy B.

Hope I didn't confuse things then, it's hard to visualize a process reading these words sometimes. And I use the "Track Manager" trick from a previous thread. Thanks.

ba_midi

I promise it's not saving my screensets guys.

I may have dreamed this, but I think I remember *someone* saying if the screensets were locked they don't save and it's a bug.

Mine are always locked - saves them fine.

"...Maybe you can't do this with your "normal" template..."

Um, well no, that's not correct, Yoropal, because we're telling you that we have saved our Normal Template with our Screensets, just as has been described.

Crg sed, "...I just tried locking the screensets on a project 1 and 2 after changing 2 and then saving and it worked. The difference is it's named something other than normal..."

You save it with any name you want, you're not stuck with a preordained name.

I don't get this problem of locking.  I'm not even sure where Lock is - I haven't done anything to lock or unlock the Screensets, they're just being saved, as described, with whatever the default of this locking mechanism is.

Randy B.

Are you saying it's like presets, ie., where you can have an eq setting in different screensets and it works like that?

 
Yes.

Saved this as a TEMPLATE, not a project, naming it "Normal"

 
I think he's saving it in the cwp Normal folder rather than the Template folder. Two steps, save as template file, in the  template folder. ???

ba_midi

Another time saver, having 3 different EQs available in the ProChannel. With the click of a button you can quickly rotate through all three to see which matches your mix the best.

Middleman,

This caught my attention, but I've shut down my DAW for a little break after working (in X1) for almost 12 hours  ....

Are you saying it's like presets, ie., where you can have an eq setting in different screensets and it works like that?

That would be interesting if so - and could expand to some other ideas that would give me if so.

Once you activate the EQ in Prochannel, you can select Pure, Vintage or Modern versions all of which have the same control set below by selecting the radio button next to the name. I am leaning toward the Modern version (Thinking it sounds like SSL EQ here, tight, punchy. On one mix however the vintage really shined when I needed a little more rounding on a treble spikey guitar. The vintage rounded off things off like my Neve 88RS plugin on my UAD2 card. Very adaptable console capabilities.

"...I think he's saving it in the cwp Normal folder rather than the Template folder..."

I think you mean he's saving it in a .cwp project folder, since there isn't a "normal" folder, and Yeah, that's a good possibility, Crg.  That's why I capitalized "TEMPLATE" in one of my posts.  Saved as a .cwp, then it could still work, but can become confusing when saving a new project - best to have the Template, open that, start your project, save project.

"...I closed out, went to the New pop up and selected the file I saved and all three screensets came up as they should..."

Trying to follow this - you closed X1, when you re-opened you clicked New for a new project - then you "selected the file"--you mean the Normal Template?

What I'm not getting is the need to save the Screensets one by one with that Screenset dialogue.  I haven't saved, re-numbered, or re-named the Screensets.  I just move things around until I like my Screensets, then go straight to saving the Template.  

Pathos, thanks for the Lock response - Everything's been working in regards to Screensets without me locking or unlocking--Still not sure why I want to lock when all I care about is the Screensets being saved, which they are.  I guess unlocked is default, because Screensets are behaving the way I want while in a project - I change something on the screen, like open or close the Browser, resize something - next time I'm at that Screenset, it's showing those latest changes, which is what I want.  I wouldn't want it to keep re-setting itself.

Randy B.

That's why I mention I lock them in my templates. It then becomes a default screenset & not at random based on how I last used them.

rbowser


"...I think he's saving it in the cwp Normal folder rather than the Template folder..."

I think you mean he's saving it in a .cwp project folder, since there isn't a "normal" folder, and Yeah, that's a good possibility, Crg.  That's why I capitalized "TEMPLATE" in one of my posts.  Saved as a .cwp, then it could still work, but can become confusing when saving a new project - best to have the Template, open that, start your project, save project.

"...I closed out, went to the New pop up and selected the file I saved and all three screensets came up as they should..."

Trying to follow this - you closed X1, when you re-opened you clicked New for a new project - then you "selected the file"--you mean the Normal Template?

What I'm not getting is the need to save the Screensets one by one with that Screenset dialogue.  I haven't saved, re-numbered, or re-named the Screensets.  I just move things around until I like my Screensets, then go straight to saving the Template.  

Pathos, thanks for the Lock response - Everything's been working in regards to Screensets without me locking or unlocking--Still not sure why I want to lock when all I care about is the Screensets being saved, which they are.  I guess unlocked is default, because Screensets are behaving the way I want while in a project - I change something on the screen, like open or close the Browser, resize something - next time I'm at that Screenset, it's showing those latest changes, which is what I want.  I wouldn't want it to keep re-setting itself.

Randy B.

There is already a "Normal" template in the templates. why rewrite it when you can save as-a new name? I like to use the main synth for template name and then rename it for a project with that synth. In Yorolpals case, he needs to set up each screen set, lock each custom screenset, save as a template file, save it in the template folder if he wants a custom template. If he wants to save the project with all recorded data and the custom screensets as a cwp., he has to lock the screensets in the screenset toolbar dropdown list before saving the project. You can unlock them upon opening the project again but that will involve saving changes in the proper order which really isn't possible after editing your tracks.  So, save a base custom template, turn it into a project with a rename, call up the template or the project file depending on your needs. 

Crg,

I rename the original Normal Template, then create a new 'Normal' template which opens every time I open X1. Or I can hit Cntrl 'N' and open that 'Normal' template anytime. Again different strokes.

Thanks for more input on Locking.  I wasn't saying it was a dumb option, I was just saying that I've been getting by without locking, so it isn't a step you Have to do before saving your Template with the Screensets.  Those aren't going to change just by opening and closing them, and having them unlocked doesn't make them scrambled.

I can confirm that you definitely can't save a Template with no tracks.  As HumbleNoise reports, your Screensets get scrambled without tracks in them.

"...There is already a "Normal" template in the templates. why rewrite it?..."

Because what I've wanted is a basic starting point, one which has all the Screensets in it that I want.  I want that to be the default Normal template - I don't want the old Normal which doesn't have my Screensets, why would I want that?  I woudn't ever be using it, so might as well replace it.  That Normal template in Sonar has always been meant as just a place-holder until you customize it the way you want.

Yorolpal has a lot to wade through when he comes back to his thread.  Hopefully he'll see the main thing he probably needs to see- and that's where we suspect he's been saving as a .cwp instead of as a template in the right template folder.

Randy B.

Middleman

ba_midi

Another time saver, having 3 different EQs available in the ProChannel. With the click of a button you can quickly rotate through all three to see which matches your mix the best.

Middleman,

This caught my attention, but I've shut down my DAW for a little break after working (in X1) for almost 12 hours  ....

Are you saying it's like presets, ie., where you can have an eq setting in different screensets and it works like that?

That would be interesting if so - and could expand to some other ideas that would give me if so.

Once you activate the EQ in Prochannel, you can select Pure, Vintage or Modern versions all of which have the same control set below by selecting the radio button next to the name. I am leaning toward the Modern version (Thinking it sounds like SSL EQ here, tight, punchy. On one mix however the vintage really shined when I needed a little more rounding on a treble spikey guitar. The vintage rounded off things off like my Neve 88RS plugin on my UAD2 card. Very adaptable console capabilities.

Oh yes, I've been using the ProChannel EQ and am aware of its functions.  I thought you were saying that you could literally have different settings for the EQ on different screensets.  That would have been interesting.  I thought it was in reference to actual frequency and other adjustments, not just the 'type' EQ.
 
 
EDITED afterward:

Now that I'm back at my DAW, I don't see how screensets changed any settings in plugins.  I didn't think I could, but I wasn't sure reading the posts here.

At any rate, no - it doesn't work that way lol.


 

John


All I can say is bring back layouts. They weren't hurting anyone.

Or have a layout (or more) be "global" (call it a master screenset) ;)
 
 

One amazing side note is, however, that I could figure all this out after a VERY stout martini and two (or was it three) glasses of a wonderful Sryah. Rock on, me droogies...rock on.

You're a good man, Ol Pal ;)

ducatibruce2

One amazing side note is, however, that I could figure all this out after a VERY stout martini and two (or was it three) glasses of a wonderful Sryah. Rock on, me droogies...rock on.

 
Sometimes it helps to be in the same place as the designers  

LOL!