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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/11 15:54:21 (permalink)
Congrats Bit, ol pal.  You won't ever regret that purchase.

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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/11 23:41:28 (permalink)
Hey Bit,

Congrats on the purchase.  While the sounds are great, I haven't found a way to implement them in song.  Not much organic material there.  Perhaps useful if you do dance music and/or new age.

Also, if you own Trillian and/or RMX, they do play well together with Omnisphere being the mothership.

Let us know how it goes.

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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 13:05:40 (permalink)
Well, after a weekend spent doing little else other than getting intimate with Omnisphere, I'm actually feeling a little buyer's remorse today. I've played with a significant percentage of the 8,000+ patches, and have so far found only a handful that I consider useful, and most of them require some tweaking in order to be so.

Frankly,  had I known a week ago what I know today, I'd have given Alchemy more serious consideration. It's nearly as capable but much less expensive. And Alchemy has more third-party support, plus you can use your own waves.

I've actually used more sounds from the $5 Sample Logic TryPack than I've found so far in Omnisphere. TryPack introduced me to a product called Cinematic Guitars that's particularly good. Ironically, I passed on that library because it was too expensive. It's $80 less than Omnisphere.

Ever the optimist, though, I am sure I'll get my $480 worth out of Omnisphere eventually. Just not this week.






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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 13:19:21 (permalink)
I did this song for the Omnisphere competition a while back,  It's basically all omnisphere with I think one Nexus 2 sound (if I remember right).

http://soundcloud.com/kro..rge/break-it-down-final

I did tweak some of the sounds, but I think that's going to be required with most things to get it to fit what you want.

I have alchemy as well, and though it's a really powerful instrument, I'm not always super impressed by the presets.  I like the Nexus 2 ones much better.

All that being said, it's just another tool in the kit, some times you need a hammer, other times a saw.


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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 14:50:14 (permalink)
Mathew, you obviously do quite well with the hammers & saws in your toolkit. Your example's quite encouraging. 

I'd be even more encouraged if it was even remotely close to my own genre
Any classic/prog rock folks out there who've found a place for Omnisphere in their tunes?



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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 14:57:50 (permalink)
The good news: Omnisphere doesn't kill my underpowered computer like I'd feared it might. Based on others' warnings, I expected it to just crush my system. But I just treat it like I do Kontakt and freeze as I go. RAM-wise, Omnisphere actually isn't that bad: a single, un-stacked sample-based patch typically uses less than 150MB and often less than 20MB.


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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 15:33:37 (permalink)
In my case, I was referring more to the loading times of samples if Trillian is any indication. I originally installed it on my XP machine (P4 HT @ 2.9MHz) and browsing samples was very tedious. On my new build, it's another story altogether. 
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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 16:03:49 (permalink)
Yes, the browser is often frustratingly slow when switching selection criteria. I would have coded in some caching.


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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 16:49:28 (permalink)
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Congrats Bit, ol pal.  You won't ever regret that purchase.

Two posts later and it appears he does.
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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 17:44:00 (permalink)
It looks like a great invention for soundtrack soundscapes- a real shame you can't pull in your own sound to slice and dice with the synth engine.

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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 18:13:19 (permalink)
Oh yeh, if you're doing a low-budget sci-fi or horror film, it's a must-have!

Too bad I don't have any such projects in my immediate future.


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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 18:20:45 (permalink)
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Mathew, you obviously do quite well with the hammers & saws in your toolkit. Your example's quite encouraging. 

I'd be even more encouraged if it was even remotely close to my own genre
Any classic/prog rock folks out there who've found a place for Omnisphere in their tunes?


Thanks Bit,  although I confess I did use a drill in a place or two !   Anyway, I hope it works out for you.


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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 18:42:44 (permalink)
While I realize that when one is working in a specific genre they might feel constrained to a certain subset of instruments, tonalitys and sounds.  To which I, generally, say PFFFT!  Don't be skeered a usin them kooky, evolving and sometimes downright provocative Omnisphere sounds in ANYTHING.  Go on...give it a try.  You might just be surprised as all get out.  Or not.

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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 18:59:36 (permalink)
This thread steered me to the demos and I was very impressed by how big the patches sound. They are big, bold and bodacious. Not my first choice for filler and soft pads but a real tiger out front. Like most things I buy, it would probably see about 20% usage of its features.

Unfortunately I stumbled across Trilian while checking out Omnisphere. I don't think I have ever listened to a bass synth that good. I have a bass and it sounds like caca compared to Trilian. Sell bass, buy Trilian, sounds like a plan.

Bit, you hang in there and work that thing. Nothing that complex can possibly be figured out in  a couple days.

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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 19:30:03 (permalink)
Trilian is also linked to Omnisphere. They have their own combined patches too. It's all huge. Good thing is, the plug-in in your DAW sounds like the demos - that's a novelty - usually you can't get the sounds you hear in demos because of all the post production firms do on them. What you hear is what you get. Hey, did anyone ever mention how huge it all sounds.
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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 19:33:32 (permalink)
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Hey, did anyone ever mention how huge it all sounds.

I wasn't sure if it was Omnisphere that sounded huge or the posts describing it.


Now I know.


(or do I?)


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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 20:08:02 (permalink)
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Oh yeh, if you're doing a low-budget sci-fi or horror film, it's a must-have!

Too bad I don't have any such projects in my immediate future.

Just curious, what projects do you have in your immediate future? I ask because while Omnisphere is by no means a total solution for all musical situations, you obviously bought it with something in mind. What is it that you were hoping for that you didn't get?
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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 20:09:56 (permalink)
Go on...give it a try.

ol' pal, that's exactly the attitude I'm approaching this with. Dammit, there's gotta be a pony in here somewhere!



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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 20:27:48 (permalink)
What is it that you were hoping for that you didn't get?

More organic sounds and fewer supersaws. More plucked-type instruments, percussive effects, and identifiable conventional instruments. Why have a Rhodes that's barely identifiable as a Rhodes, but not include a Rhodes that sounds like a Rhodes? Some processed reed instruments would be nifty and unique. 


I didn't expect a GM rompler. I've pretty much got my bread 'n butter sounds covered already (orchestra, piano, organ, electric piano, basses, etc.). So getting Omnisphere was an attempt to broaden my palette with some lush pads and interesting lead instruments. 


The pads are there, but most are SO fat that there's just no room for them without building the whole song around them from the start. And characterful leads are severely under-represented.


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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 20:39:32 (permalink)
You have a valid point, it's by no means perfect, but I guess the idea (in terms of the Rhodes) was that there are plenty of Rhodes simulators and they were just offering the alternatives. I got my copy for free (not bragging, just saying) so maybe I'm just more forgiving of it's faults ( slow load times, overwhelming preset lists, GUI, etc) then I would have been had I paid for it. Still, there is some very useful stuff in there. It's just that you may come across it when you don't need it/aren't looking for it. Be patient. It's worth it. Sometimes the presets are a little "huge". I find that I often end up removing one whole half of the preset in order to find it useable.
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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 21:00:49 (permalink)
Congrats Bit. I hope you get into a comfort zone with your Omnisphere purchase. I have Omnisphere, Trilian, Alchemy, and also a Kurzweil 2600 SX and all of these have come up in discussion so allow me to chime in a bit.

The sample thinning options in Omnisphere can really help you out if memory is an issue. Worth getting to know about. Definitely get used to those "+" signs in the interface. They open you up to some real creative soundscaping possibilities. I highly recommend checking out the Groove3 video on Omnisphere if you can. They did a really good job with that.

The Kurzweil manuals....holy crap is that ever true how HUGE they are....so powerful yet so impenetrable ;-)

If you find sounds you like overlayed with elements you don't (like a piano blended with a synth you don't want to hear) then open up the patch. All Omnisphere patches have a synth portion and a sample portion. The library of elements you can choose from to create patches is, as you have gathered, enormous. There are a lot of "normal" sounds you can juice up to go beyond the presets.

Many of the presets are definitely drenched in reverb and delay. I think this is a consequence of it being so prevalent in electronic music. Try using Nexus 2! The effects are very flexible so you can definitely tweak stuff up and get rid of that. You can also modulate them so keep that in mind.

Layered multis can really be your friend. Also, if you have an iPad, the free Omni-TR app is really an amazing thing to use to accompany Omnisphere. Too bad you are not a fan of arp'ed out patterns cause the arpeggiator in Omnisphere is one of it's strong points.

Maybe my comments haven't helped much but I am excited for you and hope you enjoy it.

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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 21:10:44 (permalink)
I concur with your assesment Bit. I think the program is more geared towards today's music and not classic/progressive rock and can be Hard to fit it into something.  However, I'm pretty sure that within the program there are the bits that you desire or don't know yet that you desire. Learning it and achieving what you want is daunting though as usual. More learning curves. To me, that's the hardest part. I just want what I want and I want it NOW... LOL.....

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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 22:13:49 (permalink)
I'm actually feeling a little buyer's remorse today.


What's wrong with you man? 

Just buy some more gear to make yourself feel better like everyone else does in these circumstances.

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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/12 22:17:25 (permalink)
Jonbouy



I'm actually feeling a little buyer's remorse today.


What's wrong with you man? 

Just buy some more gear to make yourself feel better like everyone else Bapu does in these circumstances.

Ya
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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/13 00:50:10 (permalink)
Bit,

Alchemy is for wacky and/or scary sounds, too.  Or that is what it is best at.  And most of the libraries are scary, or the biolab stuff I've bought.  Don't get me wrong - I love alchemy and the twisty-turney things you can do w/ it and the pads evolve for sure.  But it ain't the first thing I think of for more basic sounds.

I don't have omni, but w/ alchemy I find I shave a lot of the big bottom to get things to fit in the mix.  W/ alchemy (and Kontact too) there is so much "finished" sound and reverb it is hard to find a place to put your bread and butter into a song.  You just have to get medievel on it.

So have fun.  I know w/ some of the Alchemy sounds I skipped right through them, but found on coming back later there were some very useful sounds I missed.

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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/13 00:51:54 (permalink)
Thanks to everyone for their usage tips and words of general encouragement. In time I believe Omnisphere will become a valued weapon in my arsenal. Heck, it took me well over a year to warm up to Kontakt!


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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/13 07:42:23 (permalink)
Oh, and I hope you've got an SSD for this lovely piece of software cause it's a demanding little bugger (you'll find out what I mean soon). One thing you have to promise though, I want to hear a personalized "Bit" demo. Good for you and good luck!

 
If you're talking about pulling 128 notes of polyphony or less, no need for SSD for Omnisphere.
Been running Omnisphere here on conventional (higher performance) HDs for many months.
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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/13 07:46:12 (permalink)
More organic sounds and fewer supersaws. More plucked-type instruments, percussive effects, and identifiable conventional instruments. Why have a Rhodes that's barely identifiable as a Rhodes, but not include a Rhodes that sounds like a Rhodes? Some processed reed instruments would be nifty and unique.

 
Bread and Butter (workstation) type sounds are not Omnisphere's forte'.
If you're into classic analog synths, there's plenty of those... and they cover the full gamut.
IMO, that's Omnisphere's strength.  One synth to cover all classic synthesizer sounds (well).
Also good for more experimental synthetic sounds.
Absolutely a let down if you were expecting B3, Horns, Winds, Strings (other than pads), Guitars, Basses, Acoustic Piano, E Piano, etc.

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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/13 10:41:13 (permalink)
Omnisphere is huge. And insane. And a must have if you like pads.

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Re:Omnisphere, I hear it's great 2012/03/13 11:50:48 (permalink)
Although my instrumentation tends to be classic meat 'n potatoes piano, organ and strings, I am also a longtime fan of analog synths. Tomita is a hero of mine, and Snowflakes are Dancing remains a favorite even after 40 years. 

Now you'd think the ultimate do-it-all synth would be capable of emulating those classic Arp 2600 sounds of Tomita. Perhaps it can, and they just haven't included any examples. I think for this instrument to be useful to me personally I'm going to have to become proficient at designing my own sounds for it.


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