PC4K S-Type channel compressor issue

actually it seems it happens with use of any prochannel module just not nearly as noticeable as when using PC4K compressor...ugh  
 
If it helps im using Sonar x3e Studio

computer is amd 8320 fx cpu,16 gig 1600 ram,120 gig ssd,500 gig hdd,graphics nvidia geforce 550 ti and my audio interface is focusrite 8i6
 the only time i experience issues like these is with sonar,even FL studio in beta doesn't do this ever.it wont detur me from sonar but having bought the studio edition and not being able to use the full potential of the prochannel makes it pointless to have upgraded.i want to upgrade to producer but things like this are what stop me,i just wont buy somthing if i cant use it.
 
Also note that my only issue seems to be with using prochannel modules,the eq works and no problem with soft tube saturation knob,but any other prochannel module makes sonar lag to nearly unusable state,which sucks because prochannel was the big reason for my wanting to upgrade,not any of the extra goodies,i couldve cared less about them honestly.also note i have uninstalled a re installed sonar x3e multiple time even as far as going into windows registries to get all traces deleted,and re install same with all the prochannel modules im tired honestly having lost count of howmany times ive tried and howmany different ways i went about it to somehow find what might be wrong to solve this problem,i have no issue like this with any of my other software at all.    

Thanks for the reply,i have tried that tip ive tried all tips installing uninstalling drivers,plugins,prochannel modules and sonar many times now to no avail,it seems im stuck not being able to use the prochannel,maybe ill request a refund for the studio edition and get something else....because everything else isn't giving me trouble its only the prochannel,and without the prochannel my using the studio edition is pointless

I logged in to chime in.
 
I get cases where video doesn't sync with audio. For me, when setting compression, The timing of the image isn't super critical. I can just hear it. But it is something I've noticed.
 
I'm not at home, but I'll play with it when I get back. I think I can probably re-create your scenario. I'm guessing using a couple of Melda Productions MSpectralDynamics plugs with the look-ahead turned way up will cause the issue.
 
I'm curious to see whether the sample buffer matters.
 
This post is just to let EchoJester know that he/she isn't alone and that I'll look into it to see if we can get a repeatable case which could then be submitted. Perhaps a Delay Compensation thingy is appropriate for Video in odd cases.

I would definitely think this is a setup/hardware/routing issue.  It is certainly not the 'norm' for thousands of installations - and with about as many differnet combinations of hardware involved as well.
The only time I've had issues with lagginess/sync is when i was inserting something while the transport is running.  Sometimes, perfect.  Others, not so much, but certainly not a show stopper for me since re-starting the audio engine resolves it.
 
Look at all of your setup - even if you done so before.  Start off with nothing, then add one thing at a time.  Yo may find that it is another vst that is the cause.
 
Just my two cent.  Your milage may vary.
 
Good luck.

Contact tech support. We're all just basically guessing here. They can talk you through things.

Anderton
Contact tech support. We're all just basically guessing here. They can talk you through things.

Thats my next step i just wanted to see if i can get help here first before i have to make a call to tech support,and to see if im not alone in this.Thanks for all the ideas tho everyone

Whats the number?i just tried to look it up and got the are you extremely lost page.......

:P Thank you scook

No other suggestions huh?ugh worst money i've spent on any software.i cant even post a video here to show whats happening,i get better customer service from native instruments....the users here are awesome and knowledgeable but no matter how i ask google or howmuch i explain it here i cant get x3e to work.i really don't understand how anyone can make music with it in this condition,ive changed every setting in my graphics ive restored it to default ive enabled and disabled every driver un installed and re installed my entire computer only short of reinstalling windows every setting that can be adjusted within sonar,windows,my graphics card and audio interface ive tried it all just for the sake of getting SONAR X3E working,i cant seem to get any ideas except on these forums i don't understand why I ONLY seem to be having this problem!i own
 
Fabfilters
 
Melda
 
Fl studio 11/Also currently beta testing 12
 
Native Instruments Maschine 2.2
 
Harrison mix bus
 
Xfer records lfo tool
 
Reaktor 5
 
Razor
 
Most of image lines Products also beta testing a few
 
Focusrite scarlet series
 
Not one of these comes close to the problem im having with sonar currently.With the price of sonar id expect it to atleast do as advertised,im not even worried about the advanced techniques rightnow just the basics routing,audio editing,EQing,Compression levels and panning,and these are the things that im having trouble with.
 
Can any of the forum hosts get me in contact with support?ive been asking about these things since shortly after i upgraded to studio and ive tried to disregard it and find workarounds to use this program Only as its advertised.nothing more
 
 

Echojester
i cant seem to get any ideas except on these forums i don't understand why I ONLY seem to be having this problem!
 
Can any of the forum hosts get me in contact with support?

It's new year's day. Support is closed for the holiday. Try again tomorrow but if all else fails, they'll be open Monday.
 
The reason only you are experiencing this problem is because it's unique to your system or installation. Trying to troubleshoot on a forum is really inefficient because of the lag between asking something, testing something, and reporting on the results. I'm sure you'll find the answer after you get through to support.
 
 

jb101
I am sorry to hear about your problems.
 
How have you tried to contact Cakewalk?  If you are in the U.S.A. then phone them.  I guess they may be closed over Christmas/New Year.
 
There must be something odd going on here, as I have never heard of this issue before.
 
I would agree that "i really don't understand how anyone can make music with it in this condition" if I had heard of anyone having these problems before.
 
I use Sonar all the time, as do many people on here.  If we all had this problem, then this forum would be full of complaints about it.
 
I hope you get this sorted - I know how frustrating it can be to pay for something that doesn't appear to work.  I can only reassure you that Sonar does work, and that support should be able to identify what is happening in your case.
 
Don't give up on X3 - it is a remarkable piece of software that makes earning my living much easier.

Thanks,i hope it gets sorted to the features are awesome and its workflow is perfect for my needs,im gana take a video and post a youtube link here to people can see whats going on and ill send support one also.im totally at a loss here otherwise.

Ok... here I am back at my desk, and I find I can get the display for the Quad Curve EQ on a vocal to precede the singing by the exact amount of the PDC (or clicking the PDC button makes the singing and the Spectral Analysis in the EQ match up). 
 
When I bypass the FX on the busses (by grouping all Pro Channel Power buttons and disabling them as a collection), I can also resolve the timing of the FFT display in the EQ and the audio I'm listening to.
 
@EchoJester, I noticed a couple of things watching your video...
1. You're using Studio not Producer. Most here use producer so that may be an important difference.
2. The playback skipping looks like what can happen if you click the Pause/Break Button. You can probably test this behavior by clicking the button yourself and the hit play in a project (one that you haven't tried to insert the PC Module into).
 
I'm sure I don't know why you are having the problems you are having, but I would definitely contact support if I were you. The latency on the Quad Curve EQ that I'm talking about is measured in milliseconds and really doesn't matter. What you are struggling with makes Sonar unusable and you need advice.
 
BTW, Are you using Asio? What's your interface? I had some troubs way back when with some PC Modules on an old laptop on which I used MME instead of ASIO.

i did mention im using studio,id like to upgrade but if this is what i would have to deal with then im not going to.im aware of the pause/break button that was one of the first things i found out and tried,it only makes matters worse,i mentioned my interface aswell focusrite scarlett 8i6 with latest drivers,its not only a skipping issue all controls and menus within sonar skip and lag along as you try to adjust anything,and the more you add be it audio,midi or vst it progressivly gets worse.my video is an example of best case senario within a new project with nothing at all loaded and as you can see from the video sonar goes back to normal behavior asoon as the prochannel module is removed..i recently re installed pc4k s-type compressor PC module  i can nolonger get it to load,asoon as i select it to add it it immediatly freezes sonar,even in an empty project also as you can see from my video.

 

Echojester
I may talk like a fool at times but ive been using DAW's for nearly 10 years now,i understand things like PDC,Graphic acceleration,latency,Sample rate and buffers if it was merely one of those i would have solved this problem months ago,but here i am

Since no one else is having this kind of problem, the problem has to lie in your particular system.  Either you have a computer/hardware problem, or you have a problem with your particular copy of X3 Studio.  You mentioned re-installing X3e, but have you tried re-downloading it ?  Maybe the copy you have is corrupted in which case re-installing won't fix anything.
 
Are your hard drives full ?  Have you experienced anything remotely similar in other programs ?  Have you run disk and memory checks ?  Have you looked at windows log files for errors ?