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Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
(From Ultimate Classic Rock):  Kanye West is apparently lucky he interrupted alternative hero Beck instead of Kiss star Paul Stanley last night at the Grammys. “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts and said, ‘Get the f— of MY stage!,’” Stanley declared on Facebook. West — who famously interrupted Taylor Swift’s win at the 2009 VMAs to declare that Beyonce was more deserving of an award — pulled a similar stunt during Beck’s Album of the Year acceptance speech last night. Although it seemed like a lighthearted joke or self-parody at the time, with West offering a sly smile and not actually speaking, later on he made it clear he had problems with Beck winning the award over Beyonce: I don’t even know what [Beck] said. I just know that, the Grammys, if they want real artists to keep coming back, they need to stop playing with us. … And Beck needs to respect artistry, he should have given his award to Beyoncé. At this point, we tired of it. What happens is, when you keep on diminishing art, and not respecting the craft, and smacking people in the face after they deliver monumental feats of music, you’re disrespectful to inspiration. We, as musicians, have to inspire people who go to work every day, and they listen to that Beyoncé album, and they feel like it takes them to a different place. … I am here to fight for creativity. That’s why I didn’t say anything tonight, but you all knew what it meant when ‘Ye stepped on that stage.
For his part, Beck seems to be taking the whole thing in stride, saying “I was just so excited he [West] was coming up. He deserves to be onstage as much as anybody … How many great records has he put out in the last five years, right?”
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
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West must be on Beyonce's payroll........
Speaking of which, I never care for the movie Dumb & Dumber.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
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☼ Best Answerby SteveStrummerUK 2015/02/10 13:05:16
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
2015/02/10 12:45:26
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I did listen to a few excerpts of the Beyoncé album. It's very run of the mill chart fodder. To call it a monumental feat of music is like giving 3 Michelin stars to a bowl of Ramen noodles.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
2015/02/10 12:57:34
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K. West's nutz are made of brass. Wouldn't have affected him.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
2015/02/10 13:00:49
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Good lord. I haven't listened to much Beck in recent years but that dude IS a real artist/musician/producer. Granted I am not familiar with Beyonce's stuff but does she actually do all the grunt work or is there some epic R&B/spin masters making the actual music? I'm going to have to assume the latter.
Beck ain't the greatest singer, guitar player or whatever but what he does he does well and there is some serious "overall" perspective to the final creation and it translates well to the listener. I've always considered him very unique and artistic even on tracks I didn't care for. That's art.
Someone who may be a great singer... well that's great and that is still artistic but to state that a guy who does it ALL, broke about a million molds and manages to still be successful in a highly vapid and plastic pop industry against all odds is somehow a lesser artist than somehow who what? Just sings and shakes it well?
Sorry... I said it in the other thread. This guy is just an attention seeking clown who makes these "profound" proclamations to stay edgy and in the TMZ columns.
And here I am wasting bandwidth and brainspace on this CLOWN.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/02/10 15:11:21
There is no such thing as bad publicity.
P.T. Barnum Why are people continuing to fall for this and keep talking about this idiot?
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
2015/02/10 13:07:29
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Granted I am not familiar with Beyonce's stuff but does she actually do all the grunt work[?]
Hehe... That about sums it up right there.
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2015/02/10 13:08:30
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K. likes fishsticks?
Yes, but they seem to send him into a flying rage all at the same time. Love is a strange and complex matter.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2015/02/10 13:20:48
At first glance, I thought they were referring to Jeff Beck.... I am soooooooooo old 
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2015/02/10 13:13:47
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Beepster
Granted I am not familiar with Beyonce's stuff but does she actually do all the grunt work[?]
Hehe... That about sums it up right there.
Oh no... is she a grunter? I'm not going to bother youtubing her tracks. You see what you dun did, Fishticks? I am purposely NOT going to listen to Beyonce now because of your shenanas. I do highly respect those behind the scenes R&B dudes that ACTUALLY make the music though. It must be very frustrating having that level of talent (and I do indeed appreciate that style of music and all the work that goes into it) and watching these auto tuned clownwads running around acting like they're friggen' Mozart because of YOUR labors. Ugh.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
2015/02/10 13:22:25
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At first glance, I thought they were referring to Jeff Beck....
I am soooooooooo old
I like Becks 
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2015/02/10 13:33:02
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I don't know if what she does is "R&B" but granted I'm not really up to date with my pop genres. I can think of other female R&B artists who have 100x the artistry and musical integrity of Beyoncé though. Mary J, Erika Badhu, Lauren Hill etc.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
2015/02/10 13:40:30
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Beck's ist guden.
I prefer Lowenbrau... BUT they sold out to Labatt's here in Canuckistan recently so now it is being brewed in the Labbatt's filth factory of doom instead of shipped over from the factory in Europe. Tastes terrible and they made the containers smaller. They don't even list the ingredients on the cans/bottles anymore (because the new recipe very obviously does not pass the Bavarian purity laws). It has become another domestic "filth" beer.
I don't drink much anymore but this has been very disruptive to my obsessive beer snob sensibilities. I have very few creature comforts left in this world so when I have a nice fizzing goldie I want it to COUNT.
I have however found some decent, low priced alternatives but it just ain't the same, man.
As you can tell I am truly broken up about this series of unfortunately events.
:-p
screw you, fishsticks... you are far less interesting/entertaining than beer.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
2015/02/10 13:43:12
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I happened to see Beyonce's set at Glastonbury 2013 (on TV) and was very impressed - she puts on a great show, and as Jonbouy would say 'she really turns up for work'.
K West is still a tool though.
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2015/02/10 13:46:17
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I don't know if what she does is "R&B" but granted I'm not really up to date with my pop genres. I can think of other female R&B artists who have 100x the artistry and musical integrity of Beyoncé though. Mary J, Erika Badhu, Lauren Hill etc.
I much prefer old motown because I like the old analogue tones of the live instruments but I do occasionally check out some of the newer artists just to see how things have evolved. As much as she was a disaster of a human being I kind of liked Amy Winhouse's offerings... yanno, as far as pop hit stuff. There was some heart and pain there back by some good wailin' pipes. I am more impressed by some of the stuff I stumble across occasionally that isn't quite as pop hit though. I think the REAL evolution of motown/R&B has been massively suppressed in favor of this stale bubblegum crap being rammed down everyone's throats by the major labels. Very unfortunate.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
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☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2015/02/10 16:32:30
There is a certain irony to Kanye continuously being able to generate more buzz from being an ass than the artist he interupted. I'm amazed the same trick worked twice. I'm even more amazed that the supplemental attention whoring of people like Stanley worked again too. It seems like every time Kanye acts like...well, Kanye..some old fart makes some claim he would kick his ass, knowing full well the likelihood of a physical confrontation of Kanye and a senior citizen is unlikely. Kizz is never going to be in competition with Kanye or anyone Kanye associates with. It's nice grandstanding and it riles up baby boomers who hate Kanye, but in the end he is doing a variation of what Kanye is doing; using another artist to promote himself.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
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I don't know if what she does is "R&B" but granted I'm not really up to date with my pop genres. I can think of other female R&B artists who have 100x the artistry and musical integrity of Beyoncé though. Mary J, Erika Badhu, Lauren Hill etc.
I much prefer old motolitause I like the old analogue tones of the live instruments but I do occasionally check out some of the newer artists just to see how things have evolved. As much as she was a disaster of a human bein
I am more impressed by some of the stuff I stumble across occasionally that isn't quite as pop hit though. I think the REAL evolution of motown/R&B has been massively suppressed in favor of this stale bubblegum crap being rammed down everyone's throats by the major labels.
Very unfortunate.
I liked Amy Winehouse too, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that she was any less contrived than any other pop star. The Britiah woman teaming with various R&B and hip-hop producers to create music reminiscent of an older style is just as formulaic as anything else and feeds the "she's different" marketing slot for a short period until they move on to the next. Check the credits and you will find a lot of the same names behind this stuff. Same for Erykah Badu. I enjoyed her music as well, but I know firsthand she was somewhat of a creation as well. I saw her before she became Erykah Badu and we are talking night and day. Call me cynical, but at this point, I pretty much take all artist images with a grain of salt.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
2015/02/10 15:20:48
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K West is still a tool though.
Can not think of what use this tool could be put use for though, it is a tough one.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
2015/02/10 15:20:50
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Indeed. Personally I'd celebrate those backroom boys and gals and the only reason I mentioned Winehouse was because there was some flavor to it in comparison to the rest (and perhaps I have a soft spot for the the truly tragic/tortured artist).
Then again those behind the scenes musicians do have a pretty decent gig that I think I'd love. You don't get paid nearly as much but you get paid reasonably well AND you don't have to act the fool or be humiliated publicly on a regular basis just to remain relevant.
I am literally nobody in the grand scheme of things but was gaining a bit of notoriety in some very obscure underground circles. After a lifetime of chasing it turns out I freaking HATED it.
In some ways I guess these poptarts earn their money just tolerating the sheer abusive and intrusion thrust on them by the general public. Takes a certain personality type to handle that. Just like politicians. The people that can deal with it aren't the best suited to the job but who in their right mind would want that job in the first place?
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
2015/02/10 15:25:55
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There is a certain irony to Kanye continuously being able to generate more buzz from being an ass than the artist he interupted. I'm amazed the same trick worked twice. I'm even more amazed that the supplemental attention whoring of people like Stanley worked again too. It seems like every time Kanye acts like...well, Kanye..some old fart makes some claim he would kick his ass, knowing full well the likelihood of a physical confrontation of Kanye and a senior citizen is unlikely. Kizz is never going to be in competition with Kanye or anyone Kanye associates with. It's nice grandstanding and it riles up baby boomers who hate Kanye, but in the end he is doing a variation of what Kanye is doing; using another artist to promote himself.
Agreed 100% on the principle. One thing is entirely different though - as far as I can tell, Paul Stanley usually respects his peers, whether its his own heroes like Steve Marriott, Led Zeppelin, his contemporaries or younger artists, even those in other genres, like Lady Gaga or Katy Perry. Stanley is much more inclined to singing praises than ****ing. For all their flaws, the way KISS treated their opening acts throughout their career is a testimony to that respect of other artists. That other douche bag has no respect for anyone whatsoever, and that's what people react to.
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2015/02/10 15:32:13
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As a Kiss fan in my younger years I had much more respect for Gene than Paul.
As time passes (and Gene just won't STFU) I gotta say... Paul seems like a solid dude. Much more respect for the Paul than the supposed God of Thunder.
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K West is still a tool though.
Can not think of what use this tool could be put use for though, it is a tough one.
Apparently, he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
2015/02/10 15:34:04
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I think Beyonce should be the one kicking Kanye in the nuts since she is going to get just as much critiscism. She didn't invent the pop music formula. She just happened to utilize it better than most. I can't say I like Beyonce's album, but I have nothing against it either. Just not my thing. I still listen to a lot of Motown stuff, but Motown as we knew is impossible today. Artists are sometimes dropped even after releasing platinum selling albums. Pop artists who want to be "different" better do it within the parameters of the marketing machine. Beck does not sell anywhere near the numbers he sold when he was seen as a quirky, novelty pop act. The moment Beyonce wants to be an "artist" (and she has enough money to do so), she will likely have kiss big number sales goodbye.
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2015/02/10 15:37:06
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As a Kiss fan in my younger years I had much more respect for Gene than Paul.
As time passes (and Gene just won't STFU) I gotta say... Paul seems like a solid dude. Much more respect for the Paul than the supposed God of Thunder.
I grew up a fan of Ace. Paul was probably my least favorite of the band... As I grew older, my perspective on things changed quite a bit. Stanley's biography is a interesting reading. And, well, he wrote God of Thunder, anyway.
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K West is still a tool though.
Can not think of what use this tool could be put use for though, it is a tough one.
Apparently, he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.
As dumb as him and his wife come off, I have to wonder if they have just brilliantly found a way to take advantage of society loving to hate people. Kind of like a pair of attention whoring savantes who have monetized saying stupid things. Kanye just realeased absolutely hideous shoes and all this extra publicity is not hurting.
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Re: Paul Stanley: “Beck should’ve kicked Kanye right in the nuts"
2015/02/10 15:43:32
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There's nothing like a live show. Everyone is getting furious on behalf of beck who seems pretty laid back about the whole thing- LOL :)
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As a Kiss fan in my younger years I had much more respect for Gene than Paul.
As time passes (and Gene just won't STFU) I gotta say... Paul seems like a solid dude. Much more respect for the Paul than the supposed God of Thunder.
I grew up a fan of Ace. Paul was probably my least favorite of the band... As I grew older, my perspective on things changed quite a bit. Stanley's biography is a interesting reading. And, well, he wrote God of Thunder, anyway.
lol... shows what I know. I didn't even know hter was a book. I just liked Kiss Alive II and used to listen to it nightly when I was kid (like 12 yo) as I wandered off to dreamland. Ace was my true hero of the band back then too. I was also massively into to Twisted Sister and Eddie "Fingers" Ojeda was the cat that inspired me to harass my parents into buying me an electric guitar (much to their chagrin). So yeah, after everything I've done over the years musically (punk, thrash, harcore, folk, prog, alterna weirdness, etc) it's pretty darn funny looking back to think it was friggen' Eddie Ojeda that lit the fuse. I wanna ROCK! *dun dada dundun dun dada dundun and so on and so forth*
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2015/02/10 16:05:57
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There's nothing like a live show. Everyone is getting furious on behalf of beck who seems pretty laid back about the whole thing- LOL :)
He might benefit from the incident. I'm now interested in hearing what Beck did to get the award. If it had been for that jerk, Kanye, I wouldn't have heard about him. (I don't watch award shows.)
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